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Posted by
Valerie on December 15, 1999 at 20:16:38:

I have spent many hours on this website reading all of the comments on Accutane. I am 35 years old and have suffered with Acne for as long as I can remember. I have tried many different approaches, topical, internal, nutrition/juicing, exercise, peels, etc. I workout 3 times a week, eat a very healthy diet, close to 50% of it consisting of raw vegetables and fruits (one I'm sure you would approve of based on your nutrition advice). I have tried "eliminating foods. I hardly ever get a cold and if I do I goes away in a couple of days. I drink tons of water and have small amounts of stress. (I used to have a lot of stress and my skin did reflect that). Everyone I meet thinks I am in my early twenties. And most importantly I have a very strong relationship with the Lord. What I am getting at is -- can't you just admit that Acne could be hereditary and certain people (healthy people) just have overactive oil glands? If it was just health, as you claim, why does acne stop with older age? My Mom stopped breaking out at 50 -- she didn't change her diet, she was always eating healthy. As a matter of fact she is 61 and she teaches aerobics. I don't see any older people (45 and up) with Acne - can you explain in this case why the Acne just goes away just about the same time your skin starts showing signs of fines lines and wrinkles due to less collagen and oil production? Just curious. I as a Healthy individual am a little offended by your claims of Acne being due to Nutrition alone. Yes, I agree that health is extremely important and It will definitely improve your skin, but totally cure acne? I don't think that is the total cure. People are going to take accutane regardless of your warnings - maybe you should help them "be healthy on accutane" instead of cutting everyone down. I have been on Accutane for 2 weeks now with no side effects except for dry skin. I am trying to be twice as healthy (if possible) but it would be nice to read something positive to help me out and encourage me health wise. I do appreciate the time you have put in and your concern for peoples health, but maybe the time should be redirected to helping people on Accutane.



Re: 35 AND "Healthy" (ARCHIVE under SR and acne.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 16, 1999 at 13:03:02:

In Reply to: 35 AND Healthy posted by Valerie on December 15, 1999 at 20:16:38:

Valerie.

I am saddened that someone who has put as much thought into this as you apparently have still has NO IDEA what I have been talking about.

Have you heard of the Bell Curve?

Have you heard of the Human Genome Project?

Have you heard of Hans Selye, MD's work?

Do you have any idea how the machinery of the hypothalamus controls this?

Buried in your note you say you are "offended by my claims that acne is due to nutrition alone". Where in the world did you see anything like that on this BB?

Put at least SOME effort into learning about what is discussed here OR, I am afraid that you will likely have your acne for the rest of your life till you do. Have you ever considered that menopause is due to a drastic change in hormonal balance? It is at least as shattering as puberty. All I am saying is that this hormonal imbalance can be changed without waiting for menopause to do it for you. Wellness is still the only way that we know of to reliably do that. Diet and exercise are, BY FAR the least important of the 3 things that make up wellnes so far as acne is concerned. One of the most effective ways to SR is through prayer.

It is VERY likely that you will not like what I have said but that is OK. After all, YOU are the one with the acne.

Walt



But....Dr. Stoll?

Posted by Rosemarie on December 16, 1999 at 16:05:11:

In Reply to: Re: 35 AND "Healthy" (ARCHIVE under SR and acne.) posted by Walt Stoll on December 16, 1999 at 13:03:02:

You said: "Diet and exercise are, BY FAR the least important of the 3 things that make up wellness so far as acne is concerned."

Isn't it true that acne is most prevalent in populations with Western eating habits (sodas, junkfood, processed foods, sugar,etc.) I don't think other countries (China, India, etc.) have any trouble with it. If I'm right then it has to do more with the diet than you claim.

Looking forward to your reply, as always.

Rosemarie



Re: 35 AND

Posted by Valerie on December 16, 1999 at 16:25:17:

In Reply to: Re: 35 AND posted by Walt Stoll on December 16, 1999 at 13:03:02:

Dr. Stoll, What you have to say doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that there are a lot of people out there who need help with there w/Accutane concerns. You didn't answer my main question about over active oil glands causing Acne. And no, I don't know what you are talking about with all of those things you listed. I also hardly put any thought into my note, but thanks for the compliment...can you answer the question please? Oh, and by the way, a co-worker drinks diet coke like crazy, eats more junk than the garbage barge and is 30 pounds overweight and never exercises. Her skin? It is beautiful.



Re: Get it?

Posted by on December 17, 1999 at 09:41:12:

In Reply to: 35 AND Healthy posted by Valerie on December 15, 1999 at 20:16:38:

The entire point of this bulletin board is to eliminate chronic conditions. Acne is one of those. However, the solution is made up of several pieces like a puzzle. You have to do all correctly to see the big picture. You can't just eat right. You have to eat right, exercise, and do SR. SR is probably the most vital thing needed for many conditions. Western society is lacking in this too. It is an "Oh, I needed that yesterday" society. This is simply stress. While Americans eat poorly, they also work poorly. This leads to chronic stress.
Your mother quit breaking out when her hormones changed. My mother started breaking out when she got pregnant and quit afterwards. Hormone change. She was blessed not to have acne but cursed with endometriosis instead. Just work the puzzle. It takes time and patience to make the pieces fit for you, but you WILL find the right pieces. Also, get Dr. Stoll's book.



Re: 35 AND

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 17, 1999 at 12:59:49:

In Reply to: Re: 35 AND posted by Valerie on December 16, 1999 at 16:25:17:

Valerie,

Coworker and the "Bell Curve". Also, "Human Genome Project".

Excessively active "oil" glands. These are the sebaceous glands and hair follicle glands---the same ones that are infolved with acne.

Walt



Re: But....Dr. Stoll?

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 17, 1999 at 13:11:58:

In Reply to: But....Dr. Stoll? posted by Rosemarie on December 16, 1999 at 16:05:11:

Rosemarie,

Anyone in this culture who can clear up their chronic acne with diet alone is very lucky. Remember, "nutrition" is a lot more than "diet" and, so long as people in this culture have LGS, diet is NOT the same as nutrition! In this country SR is by far the most important thing since it is the most common solution to LGS (At last count, more than 75% of people in this country had significant LGS.)

I hope the participants of this BB, who have been able to permanently resolve their acne with diet alone, will share their experiences with the rest of us. I would be happy to hear that it was a reliable avenue for a large % since it would give people at least a choice between SR and diet.

As you know some people wouldn't do SR on a bet. The same is true of diet. The idea is to have different choices so people will be more likely to do something.

The problem with acne is that SR IS the most effective thing, in this country, if done by itself. Recommending something else as number one, in MY experience, reminds me of the drunk who was looking for his keys under the light post at night. He knew he had dropped them over there in the dark but he was looking by the lamp post because "That was where the light was."

Once the LGS is gone, changing diet is a lot more effective.

Namaste`

Walt



Re: Get it?

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 18, 1999 at 11:02:26:

In Reply to: Re: Get it? posted by on December 17, 1999 at 09:41:12:

Thanks, Valerie!

It is people like you that keeps me keeping on.

Namaste`

Walt



so confused??/ accutane

Posted by
Accutane, help! on January 17, 2000 at 22:13:53:

In Reply to: 35 AND Healthy posted by Valerie on December 15, 1999 at 20:16:38:

I am 19 years old and have been going to a dermatologist for about 4 1/2 years. I have tried so many antibiotics, vitemans, gels, creams etc. u name I have probably tried it. I have read a lot of other opinions on accutane, the good, the bad. I have been on it since 01-16-99 not long, and am now starting to wonder. Is it really worth it? How bad or the side affects?, how long does it take before my skin shows signs of improvement? I also read that it worsens at the start of treatment, how bad? If anyone can help me to any of these questions please respond A.S.A.P it would be apprciated and anything else they can offer on the side effects. (rectal bleeding)! among many others, WOW!!



so confused??/ accutane

Posted by
Accutane, help! on January 17, 2000 at 22:14:28:

In Reply to: 35 AND Healthy posted by Valerie on December 15, 1999 at 20:16:38:

I am 19 years old and have been going to a dermatologist for about 4 1/2 years. I have tried so many antibiotics, vitemans, gels, creams etc. u name I have probably tried it. I have read a lot of other opinions on accutane, the good, the bad. I have been on it since 01-16-99 not long, and am now starting to wonder. Is it really worth it? How bad or the side affects?, how long does it take before my skin shows signs of improvement? I also read that it worsens at the start of treatment, how bad? If anyone can help me to any of these questions please respond A.S.A.P it would be apprciated and anything else they can offer on the side effects. (rectal bleeding)! among many others, WOW!!



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