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accutane anternative -- ampicillin

Posted by
Rob on November 28, 2000 at 01:28:24:

My Dermatologist recommended I try Ampicillin since I showed some concern with Accutane. I've tried to find some information online about Ampicillin that directly relates to acne. Ampicillin I assume is one of the many pinicillin
varieties. The majority of the info that I've found seems time be short one sentence answers; its used for gram negative folliculitis. as helpful as that may be I honestly have no idea what "gram negative folliculitis" is. I was hoping someone maybe be able to give me some insight on Ampicillin. Is Ampicillin a drug that is specific for acne or does it indirectly help?? Any help is appreciated. Thanx.


Rob



Re: accutane anternative -- ampicillin

Posted by kmd on November 28, 2000 at 08:48:14:

In Reply to: accutane anternative -- ampicillin posted by Rob on November 28, 2000 at 01:28:24:

Hi Rob,

Since ampicillin is an antibiotic, it may temporarily help your acne like many other antibiotics. I've not heard of using ampicillin for acne; usually I hear of people using either tetracycline or minocycline. I'm allergic to tetracycline, so when I have needed antibiotics in the past for infected acne I have been prescribed bactrim or erythromycin. They help temporarily, get rid of any infected acne and clear the skin a bit but the acne will inevitably come back. Folliculitis is similar to acne, but involves the scalp I believe.

Walt has taught me that antibiotics need not be used for acne, and if they ARE used, then only for infected acne and then only for a few days until the infection is controlled. Long-term antibiotics can be harmful because they destroy the ecology of the gut (good bacteria that keep you healthy) and encourage candida overgrowth (which can cause a huge array of health problems, including perpetuating your acne).

Hot compresses are a good idea for swollen or infected acne. The glossary on this site has the protocol for how to use them.

Check out the acne archives to get the "big picture" on how to cure your acne permanently without the use of medications, and you can come to an understanding why meds don't "cure" anything (only help is temporary, then you have to deal with the side-effects).



Re: accutane alternative -- ampicillin. One more question.

Posted by
Rob on November 28, 2000 at 17:29:54:

In Reply to: Re: accutane anternative -- ampicillin posted by kmd on November 28, 2000 at 08:48:14:

Thanx for the info. I guess almost 2 months ago I ended up at Walt's acne archive when I was seeking infomation. Since then I've been taking Vitamins A, E, B12, C; and Omega-3, Omega-6, and Lecithin. I guess I've seem some slight inprovement, but that really goes for anything I've taken for acne. Seems to all be a temporary cure. I guess this actually bring up another question.

For the Omega recommended dosage it says I should take 1500mg of Omega-6 and atleast 5000mg of Omega-3.. The Omega-6 was easy to figure out since right on the front of the bottle it says "1000mg" but the Omega-3 doesn't. In the Supplement Facts it says it has 234mg of EPA and 125mg of DHA. I've been taking 3 a day. Is this suffiecent?

Thanx again
Rob



One more question... To Rob, and a question for Walt too

Posted by kmd on November 28, 2000 at 18:50:04:

In Reply to: Re: accutane alternative -- ampicillin. One more question. posted by Rob on November 28, 2000 at 17:29:54:

Hi Rob,

That's the problem with EFA supplements and how they are labeled. What it says on the front of the bottle is not what you are getting as far as actual mg of the right EFA's you need. Check the ingredient listing on your O6 bottle, and add up only the Gamma Linolenic Acid (GLA), and Linoleic Acid (LA) and see how many mg are actually in each capsule. Does it fall short of 1000mg?

As far as your O3, the numbers you gave me for DPA and EHA add up to 359mg per capsule. You can also add any mg of Alpha-linolenic Acid (LNA) if it is in there, as an Omega 3 EFA (reference "Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill" by Udo Erasmus). You say you've been taking 3 a day (for a total of 1,077mg). You need 5,000mg so that would mean you should be taking about 14 capsules per day. It's a LOT, I know, especially when you will notice that you probably have to take more of the O6s than you were as well. At least after a few months you can cut the dose in half, and go from there, may be able to cut it in half again, etc.

I have a bottle of flax seed oil here, it says on the front label "organic flax-oil 1000mg". But when I check the back label I see 500mg LNA (O3), and 110mg LA (O6) (there is also 125mg of an O9, but I don't count that I guess). So, it doesn't add up to 1000mg, and it is a mix of O3 and O6.

You might want to try getting a bottle of liquid flax oil, as you can get your daily requirement without swallowing so many capsules this way, but I tried that and it tasted horrible so people have told me it must have been rancid (even immediately after I bought it).

Hope this helps, I'm not an expert on EFAs, so am going on my references and what Walt has written. Walt, if you read this, your Essential Oils Ariticle on Health lists Alpha Linolenic Acid as an Omega 6 oil. According to Udo's book and my bottle of EFAs, it is actually an Omega 3 oil.



Re: One more question... Thanx

Posted by
Rob on November 28, 2000 at 19:21:37:

In Reply to: One more question... To Rob, and a question for Walt too posted by kmd on November 28, 2000 at 18:50:04:

Ok. Yeah I figured I wasn't getting enough. Thought I would ask since taking 14 capsules on a daily basis does seem a bit excessive. Anyway, Thanx; to you, Walt and the other various people who give input here. This site has in many ways turned into a support group type environment for me. It's good to know there is still a number of people willing to go out of their way to help others. Thanx again.

Rob.



Re: One more question... Thanx

Posted by kmd on November 28, 2000 at 23:41:46:

In Reply to: Re: One more question... Thanx posted by Rob on November 28, 2000 at 19:21:37:

Hi Rob,

You're welcome, and thanks for the nice comments. Hope the EFAs help you, I need to take my own advice and choke them all down every day instead of off and on, like I have been (don't like swallowing tons of pills, feels like I've had a meal-full!)



Re: accutane anternative -- ampicillin (Archive in acne.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on November 30, 2000 at 09:21:08:

In Reply to: accutane anternative -- ampicillin posted by Rob on November 28, 2000 at 01:28:24:

Hi, Rob.

Listen to kmd (Thanks, kmd!)

How are you doing with your SR? It is more work but much more important that everything else you are doing--which are only ancillary approaches.

There are two main classes of bacteria: gram positive and gram negative ones. Gram stain is a particular kind of chemical that is used to stain bacteria to be seen under the microscope. If the germ stains it is "gram positive" and if it does not, it is "gram negative". It turns out that different antibiotics have an affinity for one or the other and so this laboratory finding is an indication as to which antibiotic might work.

What kmd has suggested in MUCH more effective than any antibiotic AND has only positive side effects. Of course that approach does not require a prescription and the poor doc is left out of the loop.

Hope this helps.

Walt



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