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Posted by
Melinda on January 16, 2001 at 00:01:05:

10 years ago I was treated for cystic acne (after suffering for 5 years) with accutane. Just recently I have had a reoccuring bouts with the cysts...have other people experienced this? I was shocked after not having it for so long! Would you recommend another dose?



Re: It's back !!

Posted by Terri-Lynn on January 16, 2001 at 02:20:17:

In Reply to: It's back !! posted by Melinda on January 16, 2001 at 00:01:05:

Recommend some life style changes, get to the cause to the cause of what caused it in the first place; Look into diet changes and what you are drinking might be adding to it; Acne is caused by toxins remmber; I'm sure someone will answer your other question;



Re: It's back !!

Posted by R. on January 17, 2001 at 19:49:53:

In Reply to: It's back !! posted by Melinda on January 16, 2001 at 00:01:05:

Consider mega dose Vit. B5 therapy. Ask people at www.acne-site.com's discussion board about this.



Re: It's back !! (Archive in acne.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on January 18, 2001 at 07:26:25:

In Reply to: It's back !! posted by Melinda on January 16, 2001 at 00:01:05:

Hi, Melinda.

You must be on the wrong BB. The theme of THIS one has always been that treatments like accutane are only patches with NOTHING being done about the causes. SO, most recur.

There are literally hundreds of websites that deal with more and more patches. If you are interested in resolving the problem permanently, although that will take a lot of work on your part. go to the archives about acne.

THEN, if you still have questions, write again.

Walt



Re: It's back !!

Posted by Walt Stoll on January 18, 2001 at 07:29:41:

In Reply to: Re: It's back !! posted by Terri-Lynn on January 16, 2001 at 02:20:17:

Hi, Terri-Lynn.

Although I, too, believe that toxins have something to do with acne, I believe that they are a minor cause. If hormonal imbalance is not the major cause, why is it most commonly precipitated by puberty--long before the person has lived long enough to accumulate a precipitating total of toxins?

Namaste`

Walt



Re: It's back !! Toxins vs. Hormones - Terri-Lynn?

Posted by I agree on January 18, 2001 at 10:50:06:

In Reply to: Re: It's back !! posted by Walt Stoll on January 18, 2001 at 07:29:41:

I agree with Walt. Acne is a hormonal problem. In addition to the point made about puberty, if it were solely caused by toxins, more people would have adult acne. If the toxin theory were correct, then how could it be that so many people who smoke, never exercise, overeat all the wrong foods every day, take tons of toxic meds, never drink pure water, and live in dirty environments (just to name some) have perfect acne-free skin?

Then the poor souls with acne, trying to do all the right things, drinking pure water, eating better, exercising - STILL break out constantly their whole life with acne and ALSO notice patterns relating to the monthly hormonal cycle as well as being affected (pos or neg) by pregnancy, birth control pills, and other hormone-altering events...

Acne is not toxins trying to exit through the skin! It is an over-production of sebum, we all make sebum! Only in people with acne it is too thick and too much. It's genetic, and hormonal!

I'm not saying that getting rid of toxins won't help, because I believe it would. However, perhaps it is a secondary effect, as detox may help to normalize hormone levels.



Re: It's back !! Toxins vs. Hormones - Terri-Lynn?

Posted by Terri=Lynn on January 19, 2001 at 04:58:57:

In Reply to: Re: It's back !! Toxins vs. Hormones - Terri-Lynn? posted by I agree on January 18, 2001 at 10:50:06:

Thanks for your comments, Life is not about one factor; I agree hormone balance is a big one. Now i wonder why hormone get off in some folks more then others, what is that related to, in myself it was related to the emotional or accumulated toxins. I think the major thing i noticed in myslef was the more my energy flowed threw me [vibrationally] i mean feeling empowered in a blanced way, not shutting down my own expression or letting anyone shut it down; My hormone's would move into balance.
In a book we wrote on thought patterns related to health problems, under skin problems says; The Inherited Opinion Disdorder is-Fear of self identity; anxious, comprehension; silent opposition; flight before criticism; Now the treatment within the thinking was written; Divine Understanding prevails; appreciation of collective foundation; we have ceased fighting or struggling in all situations; clarification replaces complication; Thanks for correcting a one sided approch-all factors are important to look at;



Re: It's back !! Toxins vs. Hormones - Terri-Lynn?

Posted by Terri-Lynn Virgil on January 19, 2001 at 05:35:30:

In Reply to: Re: It's back !! Toxins vs. Hormones - Terri-Lynn? posted by I agree on January 18, 2001 at 10:50:06:

Concider this; We have a lot of other research we can add to this if one would want it;
Cell Salt;
CALC. SULPH. (Calcium Sulphate) #3. Calc. Sulph. is a blood purifier and healer. It is found in the liver where it helps in the removal of waste products from the blood stream and it has a cleansing and purifying influence throughout the system. Calc. Sulph. cleans out the accumulation of non-functional, organic matter in the tissues and causes infiltrated parts to discharge their contents readily, throwing-off decaying organic matter, so that it may not lie dormant or slowly decay and thus injure the surrounding tissues. Calc. Sulph. is indicated in conditions arising from impurities in the blood stream. It supplements the action of Kali Mur. in the treatment of catarrh, acne, etc., and should always be given when "pimples" occur in adolescence. It checks the weakening drain of suppuration too long continued, e.g. abscesses and wounds which will not heal readily and tend to become septic. If taken in the early stage, it will prevent a sore throat from developing and in the same way, it will often cut short a threatening cold. The symptoms are generally worse after getting wet and are better in a warm, dry atmosphere.



Re: It's back !! Toxins vs. Hormones - Terri-Lynn?

Posted by Terri-Lynn on January 19, 2001 at 05:44:48:

In Reply to: Re: It's back !! Toxins vs. Hormones - Terri-Lynn? posted by I agree on January 18, 2001 at 10:50:06:

Additional information we found;

L. Dermatoses: Dr. Hans J. Schwartz, M.D., in a statistical analysis of 900 patients suffering from acne, eczema, and many other skin conditions, concluded that "intestinal toxemia is an important etiologic factor in the production of many dermatoses, especial!y those of the inflammatory type."116 Dr. J. F. Burgess, MB, lecturer in Dermatology, McGill University, associate dermatologist, Montreal General Hospital, reports the results of studying 109 cases of eczema. He states that "on the basis of clinical observations and sensitivity tests against various amino acids and ptomaine bases, eczema is probably caused by intestinal toxemia"117 Others concur.118,119

CALC. SULPH. (Calcium Sulphate) #3. Calc. Sulph. is a blood purifier and healer. It is found in the liver where it helps in the removal of waste products from the blood stream and it has a cleansing and purifying influence throughout the system. Calc. Sulph. cleans out the accumulation of non-functional, organic matter in the tissues and causes infiltrated parts to discharge their contents readily, throwing-off decaying organic matter, so that it may not lie dormant or slowly decay and thus injure the surrounding tissues. Calc. Sulph. is indicated in conditions arising from impurities in the blood stream. It supplements the action of Kali Mur. in the treatment of catarrh, acne, etc., and should always be given when "pimples" occur in adolescence. It checks the weakening drain of suppuration too long continued, e.g. abscesses and wounds which will not heal readily and tend to become septic. If taken in the early stage, it will prevent a sore throat from developing and in the same way, it will often cut short a threatening cold. The symptoms are generally worse after getting wet and are better in a warm, dry atmosphere.




Re: It's back !! Toxins vs. Hormones - Terri-Lynn?

Posted by I agree on January 19, 2001 at 10:34:44:

In Reply to: Re: It's back !! Toxins vs. Hormones - Terri-Lynn? posted by Terri=Lynn on January 19, 2001 at 04:58:57:

Thanks Terri-Lynn, Virgil. I think it is good to have a well-rounded perspective. I agree that emotional health affects the hormonal levels to a large degree, I have found this to be true in my own self. I loved your term of the "Inherited Opinion Disorder", I used to suffer from that but thank God no longer. I giggled to myself at your term, it is neat.

As far as eczema, I believe this should never be compared to acne, as they have very little in common. Eczema has a strong allergic component, and is not affected by hormone levels. I feel your theory about toxins may help eczema somewhat more than acne, tho not sure on that. Acne is a demon of its own category, nothing else quite like acne! People who have never suffered acne cannot ever appreciate the hopeless frustration of this condition. I'm not saying you, but many people who think acne is a condition of uncleanliness - or judge the eating pattern of the sufferer. They shall return in another lifetime riddled with acne!



Re: It's back !! Toxins vs. Hormones - Terri-Lynn?

Posted by Terri-Lynn on January 20, 2001 at 03:08:09:

In Reply to: Re: It's back !! Toxins vs. Hormones - Terri-Lynn? posted by I agree on January 19, 2001 at 10:34:44:

Thank goodness life is not point blank and that when one does not know one can explore. I have had acne as a teenager and i can't say that i did not eat chocolate a lot and have a lot of emotional problems and i can't say that one factor caused it;
One time i treated a lady that had bad acne and it was caused by breathing toxins at her job and it did not clear up until she quit hairdressing and then within a short time it cleared. The newspaper did a front page article on this healing, and talked on the use of kinesiology [we discovered it then]; Dr. Stoll always said there is a lot of different angles one can take to healing and a lot to learn or unlearn;



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