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"Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease

Posted by
mike h on July 18, 2001 at 23:47:48:

hey all,

i wanted to let you know how things are going with this program. it's been over 3 weeks now, and i will say that i have definitely seen an improvement in my skin, but i don't want to go so far to say it's "clear" or "amazing". not yet.

and it's expensive as hell. the EFAs alone are over 50 bucks a month (i'm buying expensive brands, though) and i'm taking over 15 different pills. i'm also incorporating a better diet, some SR (this is where i'm weakest, and i'm going to focus more on that aspect), and moderate exercise.

so i can't say for sure that the program is working per se. i also lowered the temperature i take showers in. i spent two days canoeing in the sun, which totally improved my skin.

that's the problem with finding the catalyst and either eliminating it or controlling it - i've added or changed so many things here i'm not sure which is working towards the skin. there could be a synergistic effect here, but i won't be able to afford this program at this scale for too long! i'm also worried, while i'm looking better and feeling better, that this is just a "band-aid" type thing. i'll tell you, though, mentally and physically, i'm doing much better than a month ago.

i do wonder, while i pop 329082423 pills a day now, if i'm going to see any side effects. i read how some people on this board immediately feel positive and/or negative effects in their sups (the zinc thread comes to mind) and i just feel.....exactly the same. i'm not taking anything to really alter my mood, mind you, and i'm glad i don't feel bad or nauseated or what have you, but it's almost got me wondering, you know? is this stuff DOING anything? ;-)

finally, both the program i'm on and walt's wellness program state that they are "cures" for acne. i am not disrespecting those claims in any way, but i have to wonder what the definition of a "cure" is. in my current program, the author states its a cure but then says, "oh, if i miss a day or two of so and so vitamin, my acne flairs up" or "i HAVE to keep doing this and that or else my face breaks out".

doesn't that sound like more of a band -aid than a cure? you gotta keep doing it forever or else it comes back?

now, walt doesn't say such claims on his wellness program, so that's why i'm asking: is it something that we do for a while, until our disease (in this case, acne) is gone, then we can stop and we are ok, we are cured?

granted, i know that some foods, lack of SR, and no exercise are not GOOD for our well-being, but as far as acne is concerned, once we are "cured" using the program, must we keep doing the program to keep our acne away? (again, i'm using only the context of acne here in the benefits of SR, diet, and the other parts of the wellness program just to make a point.)

thanks to all who reply!
-mike



Re: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease

Posted by Ali on July 19, 2001 at 01:00:17:

In Reply to: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease posted by mike h on July 18, 2001 at 23:47:48:


Hi Mike,
I think that you have to do SR, the diet, exercise for a prolonged period of time (I've heard at least 6 months) to have lasting results. At that point, again I've heard, that you can cut back on the amount and frequency and maintain your results. The only one of these things I would consider a cure would be SR. It is the only one that will alleviate the overstressed hypothalmus so that your body and mind function at their optimal level thus eliminating the causative factor for acne. Not to mention that it makes you feel so much better! :-) Hope this helps!
Ali

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Re: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease

Posted by Gma on July 19, 2001 at 10:52:54:

In Reply to: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease posted by mike h on July 18, 2001 at 23:47:48:

In my own search for vibrant wellness I've incorporated some new things/habits/foods that I will not quit doing because they obviously enhance my life. Why would I quit doing what worked so well? AND I've quit taking so many supplements because I'm getting more nutrients from the foods, fresh juices, and herbs that I'm now using. I take my EFAs in liquid form; simply chug-a-lug it. Cannot imagine having to take 15 capsules a day when two tablespoons of the liquid would work as well and probably faster. Of course, I keep mine refrigerated.

The neat thing is, the things you are doing will not only take care of any acne problems, it will clear up (or prevent) problems you weren't even aware you had. Every area of your health/life will improve - not just your skin.

Be encouraged; you are on the right track. You might just need to make up your mind to CHOOSE to do things that are good for you just because it improves the quality of life!



Re: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease

Posted by Sally on July 19, 2001 at 15:35:30:

In Reply to: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease posted by mike h on July 18, 2001 at 23:47:48:

Mike, the B-5 is probably your cheapest supplement but some said they could tell in just a few days whether it was going to work for them. Why don't you try it by itself and then rule it in or rule it out. But keep up the SR and diet stuff.

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Re: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease

Posted by PeterB on July 19, 2001 at 21:50:54:

In Reply to: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease posted by mike h on July 18, 2001 at 23:47:48:

Well you know the saying, an alcoholic is only cured until his next drink? Cures are highly overrated. Choice empowers you to attain good health, and good health takes some effort in a fast food world. If that means popping a vitamin C instead of puffing a smoke, let your brain shine for all to see. Just remember to drink plenty of water, it's good for the skin.



Re: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease (Archive in acne.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 20, 2001 at 07:46:27:

In Reply to: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease posted by mike h on July 18, 2001 at 23:47:48:

Hi, Mike.

Great questions!

Let me know if I miss any.

First, any chronic condition is "cured" by dealing with enough of the causes, long enough for the bodymind to "reset" itself at a different level.

All these "pills" you are taking now will not be necessary for more than 6-12 months after you are successful with the SR. Then, you will be able to start cutting each one (one kind at a time) in half to see if your benefits are sustained for a few months. As soon as it is assured that they are you can make another cut of something and wait a few months more. Each time you see ANY sign of recurrance you know you have cut something too far. You can try cutting THAT one more a few years later.

Eventually you may get away from all of them OR you may still have to keep up a small maintenance dose of some of them. Only YOUR body mind can tell you.

Dealing with the causes is NOT a "bandaid" in any sense of the word. It is simply letting your genetic makeup be expressed at it's optimum and isn't that what we all want?

Hope this helps.

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 20, 2001 at 07:48:06:

In Reply to: Re: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease posted by PeterB on July 19, 2001 at 21:50:54:

Thanks, PeterB!

I meant to use the alcoholic example myself.

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 20, 2001 at 07:49:09:

In Reply to: Re: "Acne Miracle" update, questions about side effects of taking sups and the definition of a "cure" for a disease posted by Gma on July 19, 2001 at 10:52:54:

Right on, Gma, right on!

Namaste`

Walt

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