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B5 and feeling yucky.

Posted by Ali on July 20, 2001 at 23:55:44:

Hi All,
I have been taking B5 for about 2 weeks now for acne at 5 grams a day. The last couple of days I have had a dull, but constant headache, insomnia, muscle spasms and cramps and a feeling of being hyped-up and dizzy. Would this be a direct result of the B5 or is that high of a dose causing a deficiency in other B vitamins giving me those symptoms. If it is a deficiency would it show up that fast (within 2 weeks)? I would have to say the B5 has helped, but I haven't gotten amazing results with it. I'm just wondering if there is any sense to continue with treatment?
Thanks,
Ali



Re: B5 and feeling yucky.

Posted by Sally on July 21, 2001 at 09:09:55:

In Reply to: B5 and feeling yucky. posted by Ali on July 20, 2001 at 23:55:44:

Sorry to hear this Ali. My daughter is on B-5 also but I think she was easing into the essential oils instead. Her skin usually improves a lot when winter is over anyway so hard to tell what is doing what. The maintenance dose is 2000 mg right? One of the posters mentioned B-5 may interfere with taurine but I don't know what symptoms that would display.

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Re: B5 and feeling yucky.

Posted by R. on July 21, 2001 at 16:33:03:

In Reply to: B5 and feeling yucky. posted by Ali on July 20, 2001 at 23:55:44:

I am afraid you know as much as anyone on this topic. You will probably have to figure this out yourself. Could it be stress related? PMS? Try getting off B5 and on again and see if your symptoms correlate with your taking B5.

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Re: B5 and feeling yucky.

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 22, 2001 at 09:48:05:

In Reply to: B5 and feeling yucky. posted by Ali on July 20, 2001 at 23:55:44:

Hi, Ali.

Best way to find out is to stop it and see what happens.

Let us know. Have you tried the essential fatty acids yet? It is likely that you could get by with less of both if you took both at the same time. EVERYTHING works together.

Walt



Re: B5 and feeling yucky.

Posted by ali on July 22, 2001 at 18:29:17:

In Reply to: Re: B5 and feeling yucky. posted by Walt Stoll on July 22, 2001 at 09:48:05:


Hi Dr. Stoll,
Yes, I stopped taking it and... problem alleviated.
I am taking the essential oils and find them very beneficial. I started using hot compresses every night and putting a tiny bit of jojoba oil on my face every night and that has made big difference with the clogged pores. I'm going to continue with my regular supplementation without the high dose of B5 and I have been eating a whole foods diet 90% of the time. (I'm not perfect, but who is? :-) The most important thing I've been doing and have noticed the BEST results with is SR. I've heard you state time and time again that is the only thing that will "cure" the acne. I just want you to know... I believe it!
The information I have gotten off this board from you and the other members has been incredibly helpful and I really have faith in your methods and advice. Thank you for responding personally.
ali



Re: B5 and feeling yucky.

Posted by
mike h on July 24, 2001 at 01:03:12:

In Reply to: B5 and feeling yucky. posted by Ali on July 20, 2001 at 23:55:44:

Ali,

hey, mike here ... i'm on b5, and i'm on day...6 or 7, i forget right now. i'm on so much other stuff that i'm not sure what effect its having, but i belive it to be a good one! i haven't had any of the symptons you have said yet, but i had CRAZY energy the first couple of days of taking it! i'm dosing at 7.5 g a day. now, i'm going down to 5. i've noticed about 5 new zits, however, most are in my hair (woohoo!), ok scalp, and i think it's more to do with what i ate and drank over the weekend.

anyways, i'd like to swap emails with you and see if we can't work through this together, our goals and problems seem really close. email me at tourphish@hotmail.com :)

good luck
mike

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Re: B5 and feeling yucky. Testimonial in Acne.

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 24, 2001 at 10:13:55:

In Reply to: Re: B5 and feeling yucky. posted by ali on July 22, 2001 at 18:29:17:

Thanks, Ali.

Perhaps your experience will help others who are seeking.

Namaste`

Walt

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food intolerance

Posted by
Louise on July 24, 2001 at 14:10:16:

In Reply to: Re: B5 and feeling yucky. posted by Walt Stoll on July 22, 2001 at 09:48:05:

Dear Dr Stoll

I wonder if you could please give me any advice. I suffer with CFS, HG and severe migraines that i have had nearly every day for 7 years. My migraines are mainly caused by food & chemical intolerance. I know this because i did an elimination diet about 4 years ago and became symptom free. I had to cut out many foods though in order to stay well which meant i was left with a very limited diet. Unfortunately after about 9 months all my allergic symtpoms came back. There now is no foods that i can eat safely. I appear to react to every food that i eat. I am becoming iller all the time. There is no time that i do not have a migraine. I am trying a hypoglycemic diet and rotating foods to no avail. I have attended a Buteyko course and practice daily breathing exercises but i never seem to be able to get my irregular breathing under control. Im sure that my hyperventilating is a reaction to foods anyway. I am going to try treatment for a leaky gut but will i ever lose the intolerances i have already got? It is impossible to cut out all foods i react to from of my diet for 6 months because i react to virtually everything. I have also withdrawn from Klonipin a benzodiazipine about 1 year ago and seem to be a lot worse since i came of it. I have had cortisol and thyroid levels checked. Cortisol levels are too high and thyroxine levels low.

One more thing I have tried EPD and neutralisation drops for my alleries but they both seemed to make me worse. I am taking zinc 30mg, magnesium 500mg, and liquid trace minerals daily.

Any ideas? I would be very grateful. I am getting to the end of my tether. I am prepared to try anyting.

Louise



Re: food intolerance

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 25, 2001 at 08:55:09:

In Reply to: food intolerance posted by Louise on July 24, 2001 at 14:10:16:

Hi, Louise.

Elimination is about all you can do right now. Within 6 months of total elimination, of what you know you are reactant to (while dealing with your LGS), you will find that you can start having many of the foods occasionally. Those that still react, at least do not send you back to ground zero with that food; just avoid it again for a few months.

Once the LGS is resolved, the hypersensitivities will not recur unless you abuse them.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Vitamin B3 (Niacin)?

Posted by Ann on July 25, 2001 at 09:21:56:

In Reply to: B5 and feeling yucky. posted by Ali on July 20, 2001 at 23:55:44:

I've read in a book that B5 is good for other skin disorders like eczema.

B3 is meant to be good for acne.

and Vitamin A taken at high dozes (up to 150,000 IU per day) for a short period of time (1 month) under doctor's supervision.

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Re: Dr. Stoll - food intolerance

Posted by Wendy on July 25, 2001 at 17:51:51:

In Reply to: Re: food intolerance posted by Walt Stoll on July 25, 2001 at 08:55:09:

That was encouraging about being able to reintroduce the reactant foods again, though I don't know if it applies in our situation.
My daughter has been eliminating corn syrup and dairy products for over 5 months. She once had a slice of pizza as a test and there was no reaction. Her muscle testing shows strength in dairy and corn syrup now. We had been treating her LGS with 6 weeks of grapefruit seed extract and more than 3 months of Primal Defense, which she's still taking. She's been taking metamucil and Kondremul, and every week we're eliminating 1/4 teaspoon of each, just to be careful not to do it so quickly that we'll cause a set back.
Constipationwise, she goes ALMOST every day. But about once a month she'll skip as many as two and a half days (probably after not having enough water) then we give her a cascara sagrada pill which fixes it immediately. She's happy and healthy now and very cooperative in this regimin.

What should we do now? Do you think we're reducing the MO and psyllium too quickly or is it safe now? Her chiropractor thinks her LGS is healed, but I'm always too cautious to believe that. What do you think or do you think we should do the intestional permeability test? She seems to think we can occasionally give her dairy food and corn syrup, but I haven't felt confident enough to do it yet. What do you advise? I won't do anything differently until I get your opinion on these matters. Thank you.



Re: Dr. Stoll - food intolerance

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 27, 2001 at 09:16:03:

In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll - food intolerance posted by Wendy on July 25, 2001 at 17:51:51:

Hi, Wendy.

From what you are saying, her system is not yet over the hump and ANY deviation is very risky for the long run.

I would first start a chart that insures that she has at least 6-8 ounce glases of water every 24 hours.

It might be worth getting an intestinal permeability test (or a comprehensive stool analysis at GSDLs) to see where her gut actually is.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt

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