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Dr. Stoll what would you recomend I do for mild acne?

Posted by Chris on March 24, 2002 at 00:07:05:

Dr. Stoll, I am just curious as to what natural methods you would sugest for me to get ride of mild acne. I currently have 4 pimples so its not a huge problem but none the less very annyoning at my age (19). Currently I take Vit C, B complex, B5, and acidophilus? Any other suggestions. Also after taking these vitamins for a while I feel better overall in general, so they must be doing something.



Re: Dr. Stoll what would you recomend I do for mild acne?

Posted by Kim on March 24, 2002 at 02:28:12:

In Reply to: Dr. Stoll what would you recomend I do for mild acne? posted by Chris on March 24, 2002 at 00:07:05:

Hi Chris,
One of the most important things for your body is water.
We need at least 8 glasses of water a day. Another suggetion is panothetic acid (B5). Also how is your diet.
Diet plays a BIG part in keeping our skin clear.
Try to stay away from chips, sodas, white flour, dairey products such as milk and cheese, and fried foods.
These are just a few suggestions.
Hope this helps

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Re: Dr. Stoll what would you recomend I do for mild acne?

Posted by
Sensual Sadie to Chris on March 24, 2002 at 03:48:59:

In Reply to: Dr. Stoll what would you recomend I do for mild acne? posted by Chris on March 24, 2002 at 00:07:05:

B5 worked wonders on my skin. I will resume taking it again. I dont know why I ever stopped.

You need to check what dosage you are taking. I was one of the lucky ones. I only needed 3g to notice a significant difference. That is a low dosage compared to what others were taking. It is harmless, as anything your body doesnt want or use is excreted.



Re: Dr. Stoll what would you recomend I do for mild acne?

Posted by
Sensual Sadie on March 24, 2002 at 03:58:59:

In Reply to: Dr. Stoll what would you recomend I do for mild acne? posted by Chris on March 24, 2002 at 00:07:05:

Dont forget Zinc. It plays a big part in helping B5 do its job. At least that was my experience and many others taking B5. If I remember correctly, you need to take them about 2 hours apart.

Hope that helps some.....

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Re: Be careful about what you say is harmless......remember this post.?

Posted by Deto on March 24, 2002 at 09:57:51:

In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll what would you recomend I do for mild acne? posted by Sensual Sadie to Chris on March 24, 2002 at 03:48:59:

Hi. I haven't visited this site in a few months, so please don't get me mixed up with some other cd's that I see have posted some inflammatory messages. There is something I feel I should let this community know about.

I finally got myself off pantothenic acid and I feel SO much better. Perhaps I should give some background information.

It all started about 5 months ago when I was searching for some relief from my acne. I was so tired of it, and I was extremely desperate at this point. I came across the suggestion of using pantothenic acid(vitamin b5) in an old archived message on this site to cure acne. Figuring I had nothing to lose, I gave it a shot. As the message suggested, I started off with 8 grams of pantothenic acid daily. The results came quickly and very impressively. I was extremely happy with what I had discovered, and I was very willing to sacrifice the money to pay for this "wonder vitamin" every month.

I continued this dosage for about 2 and a half months with consistent positive results, then--also according to the original message's suggestions--I attempted to cut myself down to 2 grams per day. Within a week my acne had come back, so I went back up to 8 grams, thinking that it would be okay to stay on this dosage. I maintained this dosage up until 3 days ago, which gives a total of about 5 months of pantothenic acid usage.

A few days ago I was in the doctor's office due to some severe cuts on both sides of my mouth(the left and right part where both lips meet). I had had these irritating cuts for almost a month, and they refused to heal. It seemed as though they would slowly get better over the course of a few days, and then I would wake up the next morning to find the wounds reopened and bleeding again. I finally gave in and made a doctor's appointment because of these things(They were more than just a nuisance. It was very painful to talk, laugh, eat, etc., and they were VERY noticeable and unattractive. They were actually quite large gashes).

The doctor told me they were due to one of two things: a food allergy, or a vitamin deficiency. As soon as he mentioned the second possible cause I finally realized what was going on. By megadosing on pantothenic acid, I had given myself a deficiency in several other vitamins. I stopped taking the b5 3 days ago. Right now my cuts are almost completely healed.

This may not seem like a big deal, but the cuts were really only the surface of what the pantothenic acid was doing to me. I had slowly become increasingly frail, fragile, and diseased over the past five months. I was always very tired and very nauseous. I had developed severe gastrointestinal problems whenever I ate anything at all. My skin had become extremely dry and rough. I would get dizzy after walking even the shortest distances. I had developed a case of insomnia. I was always angry and irritable. Most importantly, I had developed a prostate problem. I was constantly urinating(this is probably why my skin was dry. I think the pantothenic acid was dehydrating me). I had extreme muscle tension in my groin area making it very hard to sleep or exercise(as if I had the strength in the first place). I was just incredibly sick in too many ways to describe. I felt plain awful.

Every single one of these symptoms has either completely vanished or vastly improved over the past three days. I am confident that in a week or two I will finally be back to my normal, healthy self.

You may wonder why I didn't notice any of this was happening over the past five months. I also wonder. I suppose I was so hypnotized by the results of my complexion that I completely ignored what I was doing to the rest of my body. The idea that thse things were happening to me because of the vitamin b5 never occured to me, or--if it did--I had completely ignored that terrifying notion.

It's not easy to get off of this vitamin. Sometimes I feel that my looks are all I have going for me, and now I won't even have that.



egg yolk mask

Posted by amaryllis on March 24, 2002 at 13:48:44:

In Reply to: Dr. Stoll what would you recomend I do for mild acne? posted by Chris on March 24, 2002 at 00:07:05:

This is the Ann Landers column from 12/01/92:

Dear Ann Landers: In 1969, I started my first year as a university student. Soon after, I developed a severe case of acne, and I am sure stress had a lot to do with it. I went to three doctors and spent hundreds of dollars on medicine that did not work.

The summer of 1970, I went to lunch with a friend at the World Bank in Washington, D.C., and while in the ladies' room, a beautiful East Indian woman wearing a sari gave me a smile. When I responded, she touched my face and said, "Oh, no. Red ugly spots on pretty face. You fix with egg yolk." I said, "Are you serious? Do you think it would really help?"

She replied, "Yes, you put raw egg yolk on face and let dry for 10 minutes, then wash off. Do every day for one month and spots go away. You do again two times in every month for three months and again if trouble starts."

I was unconvinced but thanked her anyway. That night I decided I had very little to lose since the acne was terrible and nothing else had worked. Well, Ann, that woman knew what she was talking about. Since then, I've told several friends about the egg-yolk cure and the success rate has been phenomenal. Please tell your readers. They'll be forever grateful.

SILKY SKIN IN WASHINGTON

Ann Landers' reply:

I faxed your letter to Dr. Mary Ellen Brademas, a superb dermatologist in New York, and this is her response:

For many years, topical applications of Vitamin A have been prescribed by physicians as a treatment for acne. Because egg yolks are an excellent source of Vitamin A, it is not surprising that raw egg yolks improve acne lesions. It is interesting that the writer's lesions appeared after periods of stress. Stress can make acne worse and can also worsen other conditions such as ulcers and psoriasis.

In any case, sometimes there is a simple scientific basis for success in home remedies.
(End of Ann Landers Column)

(begin post by Mary)

Posted by Mary on August 13, 2000 at 02:17:49:

I did a little research, and I think you'll be interested to see what I've found:

Egg yolks are one of the richest sources of vitamin A on the planet. Vitamin A is composed of many different chemical forms which are collectively known as retinoids.

All-trans-retinoic acid (AKA Retin-A), is one of them. It is mainly used in regulating the amount of skin cells produced and skin cell shedding. This is good for acne because it keeps your pores from clogging up.

13-cis-retinol is another. After many chemical reactions within the body, this compound is transformed into 13-cis-retinoic acid, which is Accutane. (Wierd, huh? Your body produces Accutane naturally from Vitamin A....) Anyhow, this compound has 3 main functions in stopping acne:

1) regulation of skin cell production
2) inhibition of oil production
3) inhibition of Propionibacterium acnes, the bacteria that causes acne.

As an aside, I discovered that the reason you can't get your Accutane pills too hot or exposed to too much light is because the compound 13-cis-retinoic acid is very unstable as it is produced within your body under very specific conditions, so the synthetic form just doesn't keep well.

Now, the fact that it inhibits oil production is just one clearly stated fact that I have come across many times.

In scientific analyses of egg yolks, it was discovered that the yolks contain 13-cis-retinol, which could either be converted into the 13-cis-retinoic acid in the skin, or the 13-cis-retinoic acid is already present in the egg yolk. It is also possible that there are other, yet-to-be discovered retinoids present in the egg yolks that could be beneficial for the skin.

So putting egg yolk on your skin is kind of like putting a cocktail of Retin A and Accutane right on your face! It is also possible that eating egg yolks could be beneficial for treating acne. Of course, scientific studies of egg yolks and their affect on acne has not been undertaken, and probably never



Re: Be careful about what you say is harmless......remember this post.?

Posted by Chris on March 24, 2002 at 13:50:01:

In Reply to: Re: Be careful about what you say is harmless......remember this post.? posted by Deto on March 24, 2002 at 09:57:51:

Yeah I totally agree with you, I tried the high dosage of B5 for about 5 days and got the worst breakout.. Anyways I stopped taking it and it go better and I know just take 1 B5 a day along with B-complex, and C. I have never been a vitamin person until about 3weeks ago when I keep hearing it could help acne. I just hope im not barking up the wrong tree and wasting money. Also what is this SR Dr. Stoll keeps talking about. I cant seem to find a good explanation of how to do it on the web site. Is it one of those send me money and I will tell you deals?



Re: egg yolk mask

Posted by Chris on March 24, 2002 at 13:54:58:

In Reply to: egg yolk mask posted by amaryllis on March 24, 2002 at 13:48:44:

Thanks for the advice, I think I will try it I have nothing to loose I guess:)

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Re: Be careful about what you say is harmless......remember this post.?

Posted by BarbaraN on March 24, 2002 at 16:10:36:

In Reply to: Re: Be careful about what you say is harmless......remember this post.? posted by Chris on March 24, 2002 at 13:50:01:

SR is skilled relaxation....now pay me my 50 dollars *smile* Try looking up skilled relaxation in the archives or in the glossary and you'll learn more. There are alot of different methods you can use to achieve the relaxation response.....most seem to choose meditation... pick one that works best for you.

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Re: Be careful about what you say is harmless....- Good Post! We all learn from these Posts!

Posted by Kim on March 24, 2002 at 19:40:47:

In Reply to: Re: Be careful about what you say is harmless......remember this post.? posted by Deto on March 24, 2002 at 09:57:51:

Thanks for posting your experience Deto. I definately will be more careful about what I suggest.
Kim

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Re: Dr. Stoll what would you recomend I do for mild acne? (Archive.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 25, 2002 at 09:11:05:

In Reply to: Dr. Stoll what would you recomend I do for mild acne? posted by Chris on March 24, 2002 at 00:07:05:

Hi, Chris.

Others have lot of good suggestions. Let us know which works.

MY suggestion would be the EFAs in the home page article.

Walt

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Re: egg yolk mask

Posted by CT on March 25, 2002 at 12:07:43:

In Reply to: egg yolk mask posted by amaryllis on March 24, 2002 at 13:48:44:

Thank you so much for taking the time to post this! I have a teen who needs a better option than using a daily antibiotic solution.



Did you see the post on Honey?

Posted by labrat on March 25, 2002 at 18:46:05:

In Reply to: Re: egg yolk mask posted by CT on March 25, 2002 at 12:07:43:

Scroll down the board and find a post about honey as a medical treatment. Someone also posted about using a certain type of honey for a mask and that helped the complexion also.

~~~8>

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