Acne and Accutane historical posts February 1998

Re: Accutane

Posted by Nicole on February 01, 1998 at 22:02:38:

i'm 17 now, and i just started taking this pill accutane.
i'm not severe but i've had acne for a while. i wanted to get rid of it. i've had no side effects except driness of the lips. thats really not a problem. lip stuff can take care of that. i hope o don't have any other side effects. as to the fact that some of you are experiencing more acne well my doctor said that was normal. accutane is just bringing the oil and stuff out of your body. it will subside.

~Nicole~


Re: ACCUTANE

Posted by Kyra Kitts on February 02, 1998 at 00:38:29:


Dear Amy,

Since accutane has been addressed by Dr. Stoll and others many times over on this BB, the most effective thing you could do to gather A LOT of information on the subject would be to go back to the "search" function at the beginning of the bulletin board, enter Accutane, sit back, and wait for the results to come rolling in. Then click and read at your leisure.

After having read a lot of the Accutane-related posts, i'd have to say, if it were my body, i wouldn't put the stuff in it. Too many side effects for my liking. And if your "Doc" rushed you in and out like that...well.. Hope this helps.

Kyra



Re: ALTERNATIVE TO ACCUTANE!

Posted by Henry Cheng on February 02, 1998 at 02:46:29:

I'm glad to hear that you have an alternative to accutane for treating acne. I'm 29 years old and I've been taking Accutane since I was 16; on and off for so many years.

I would be really grateful to you if you could advise me on your alternative treatment because I'm sick and tired of taking Accutane with it's side-effects.

Regards,

HENRY



Re: ACCUTANE

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 02, 1998 at 12:04:04:

Dear Amy,

With a doc like that, I would be afraid to take the Accutane. The doc is supposed to do a complete workup BEFORE prescribing Accutane because it is NOT safe for everyone. Why do you think it is available on prescription only? If he just took the money & ran, he has NO IDEA whether this is good (or even safe) for you to take.

He is certainly more interested in income than he is in your welfare. SURELY, you deserve better than that!

If I knew from what part of the country you come, I might personally know someone there.

Walt



Re: side effects of accutane

Posted by Jill on February 03, 1998 at 19:34:17:

I took only 2 doses of Accutane back in November and I had a severe reaction. My eyes have become so incredibly dry that I have had to put in silicone plugs in my upper and lower tear ducts! Even after all that my eyes don't feel normal. I am now permanently wearing glasses and I dream of the day when I can put in my contacts again. If anyone has any information of cases like mine, or how I can get my eyes back to normal please let me know!


Re: ALTERNATIVE TO ACCUTANE!

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 04, 1998 at 11:10:14:

In Reply to: Re: ALTERNATIVE TO ACCUTANE! posted by Henry Cheng on February 02, 1998 at 02:46:29:

Dear Henry,

I wish I could claim these alternatives for my own. They are just a consensus of the world's researchers over the apst 20-30 years that I have found to be just as effective for MY patients as they have reported in their literature.

The nice thing, in your case, is that these approaches work best in those who have had acne for a long time--as you have.

Besides, it is not strictly a "treatment", it is a lifestyle. The problems with it are not that it doesn't work--it does. The problem is that most peop[le don't want to put this much effort into learning how AND to actually applying it.

Use the search feature for this BB & read everything you can find about acne, Accutane and Accutane side-effects. THEN, if you still have questions, write again.

Walt



Accutane and Hair Loss/Thinning

Posted by Tim on February 04, 1998 at 18:50:24:

Exactly how common is hair loss and does it return to normal? I am prepared to deal with other side effects, but I don't need to increase the speed of hair loss! I have read through most of the posts, but was unable to find exactly what I was looking for. ONe person said he had thinning hair, and was wondering if it would return to normal. That's what I am wondering! If I take this, what are the hair thinning chances and does it return to normal after treatment? Thanks!
-Tim


Re: side effects of accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 05, 1998 at 10:35:14:

In Reply to: Re: side effects of accutane posted by Jill on February 03, 1998 at 19:34:17:

Thanks, Jill.

Your testimonial is a good example of why people should only go to physicians who thoroughly evaluate them before prescribing ANYTHING (Accutane included). There should be warnings to people with contacts. Although this is not a common problem, it is known to exist. If the individual elects to take the accutane even with this risk, it has to be their responsibility. This is called "informed consent". It is also a reason for taking no prescription drug without first reading the package insert. If the doc dosen't warn you-------------

A good ophthalmologist may be able to give you some ideas. Even a Naturopath or Homeopath might help. It wouldn't hurt to talk to them.

If you resolve this, I hope you will share what you did with us here on the BB.

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by Jay on February 05, 1998 at 13:41:36:

Mr.Stoll,
I have taken every form of acne treatment there is to take, except accutane. My acne isnt severe, but nothing can prevent the amount that I get. My doctor feels I have only accutane as an answer, but Im really scared of the side effects, especially the flare ups while on it. I cant stand the way I look now, so Im almost positive I am willing to take the chance. Can you tell me a rough estimate of the number of people who will get worse acne at first while on accutane? And I was wondering if you know the length of time that someone who isnt severe would have to take this drug?

Thanks,
Jay



Re: Accutane and Hair Loss/Thinning

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 06, 1998 at 11:21:10:

In Reply to: Accutane and Hair Loss/Thinning posted by Tim on February 04, 1998 at 18:50:24:

Dear Tim,

What I intended for you to get from the posts was:

1. No one but the prescribing physician can answer any individual question like this. That doc was supposed to do a complete workup on you before prescribing it so s/he would know how this was likely to effect you.

2. For the general answers to your questions, you MUST read the package insert. THEN, if you still have questions, only your doc can adequately answer you.

I am sorry that that message was not plain from the many posts on this subject. How could I make it more clear?

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by Jan Aaker on February 06, 1998 at 11:32:21:

I am thinking about going on Accutane next week. I have suffered for acne for over 15 years and I am getting married in July so I wanted clear skin for it. I want to know how long it takes to work and does it work. Side effects? Is is safe?
Thanks,
Jan Aake


accutane and drugs

Posted by debbie on February 06, 1998 at 17:41:34:

i took accutane about five years ago and it completly cleared up my skin... I have been reading up on it again because I took it when I was a teenager and did many things that the doctors warned me against. I have found no information about contraindications with other "hard" drugs. I think many people are afraid to ask their doctors about it. I used ecstacy while on it and nothing happened. Was I just lucky? I drank and nothing again. While my cholesterol was high - that was the case beforehand. It increased while I was on the Accutane, but before I used the drugs or alcohol. While I was a teenager when I did these things, I am positive others out there are wondering. I still wonder what risks I had taken. Is there any information about mixing ecstacy or amphetamines with accutane?

Thank You,

Debbie


accutane..

Posted by Adrian Rodriguez on February 06, 1998 at 18:28:09:

Dr Stoll..

Im on my second course of Accutane at 60 mg a dayyet only for enough for a month and a half...does this dose seem too small and should i inquire about this with my physician? Thanks...


Accutane

Posted by Cindy B on February 06, 1998 at 20:23:08:

I am 28 years old and have completed 2 cycles of accutane. After my first cycle my acne was GONE for 3 years. Then it came back very slightly. I went on another cycle. It has been 1 year since my 2nd cycle was over and I am back on antibiotics. My question is. Is there a maximum number of cycles a person should take this medication? It seems to work well.




Re: Accutane

Posted by Cindy on February 06, 1998 at 20:31:37:

Put her on it now!! I suffered from acne for years. I tried everything on the market. My dr. would prescribe antibiotics and they would work for a short while but my acne always returned. After my accutane cycle I had perfect skin. Acne is one of the worst things a person could ever go through. Trust me, your daughter is dying inside. Accutane is the ONLY thing that really worked for me. After 3 years I had to go back on another cycle but only for half the time. I have perfect skin again. I have never been so happy. Don't waste her time. PLEASE put her on it. She'll thank you.


Re: Accutane

Posted by Cindy on February 06, 1998 at 20:35:57:

I went on accutane for severe acne also. During the 5 months I was on it I experienced dry skin and scalp, chapped lips and dry eyes. THAT'S ALL. My acne disappeared. I stayed in my home for a long time because of it. I tried everything there is and nothing worked. Do not get pregnant while on it. Other than that, I say go for it. You'll have beautiful skin that you won't want to hide with your hair or make-up. I've been there, I know the pain you are in. I have the face to prove it works and I"m healthy as a horse.


Re: Accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 07, 1998 at 08:02:13:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Jay on February 05, 1998 at 13:41:36:

Dear Jay,

From what you are saying, I would bet that you have "taken every form of treatment there is to take" but that only includes conventional medical treatment OR other forms that are ONLY treatment.

There are a lot more effective options out there but they all take a lot more effort than a "treatment". This is NOT your fault since the entire system is designed for people to think of "treatments" rather than looking for causes.

How long have you had this problem? How old are you?

You could get a broader spectrum of your options by using the search feature for this BB & reading everything you can find about acne, accutane and accutane side effects.

Acne that lasts more than the few years during active adolescence is ALWAYS related to glandular stresses that can be alleviated.

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by Wes on February 08, 1998 at 05:21:51:

i was taking accutane for about 2 weeks and then my mom wanted me to stop taking it. In what i have read that people blame it on food, sunlight, and stress

well i dont eat that much and what i do eat is good for me
i go tanning several times a weeks and the only thing that has been stressing me is the acne
can you please help?


Re: accutane and drugs

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 08, 1998 at 09:18:51:

In Reply to: accutane and drugs posted by debbie on February 06, 1998 at 17:41:34:

Dear Debbie,

There are only 2 sources for the information you are seeking since everyone responds differently. They are: 1. The package insert. and, 2. The physician whose responsibility was to do a complete workup on you before prescribing it in the first place. Only s/he could individualize the answers to your questions in YOUR case.

Be reassured that if anything was going to happen with these combinations, it would happen within a few months. After years, I would not worry.

Walt



Re: accutane..

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 08, 1998 at 09:20:15:

In Reply to: accutane.. posted by Adrian Rodriguez on February 06, 1998 at 18:28:09:

Dear Adrian,

Everyone is different. This is one for the prescribing Doc. Have you read the package insert?

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 08, 1998 at 09:30:13:

In Reply to: Accutane posted by Cindy B on February 06, 1998 at 20:23:08:

Dear Cindy,

ANYONE who still has acne at your age has dysautonomia and you should take the presence of acne as a messaage to do something about that. Your acne will clear up as a side effect of resolving the dysautonomia which is a much more serious condition in the long run. If you do not know what dysautonomia is, I answered it today in response to another question about it. Us the search feature for this date & you will find it.

THEN, if you still have questions, you might use the search feature for acne, accutane & accutane side effects. You would learn a lot.

Walt



accutane & birth defects

Posted by tea on February 10, 1998 at 01:38:20:

is there a test to make sure your body has gotten rid of all traces of accutane? i've heard bad things about birth defects and i've taken 3 courses of accutane.


Re: Accutane

Posted by cls on February 11, 1998 at 14:42:50:

I've been on accutane twice already. The first time it worked for a bit, and then it came back again. My first treatment was about five years (junior year of high school) and my second treatment was about three years ago (freshman year of college).
Now I'm a senior in college, and the acne is back! My doctor recommended accutane a third time, but in a much small dose.
I don't know if I should go on it again or not. I'm interviewing for jobs, etc, and i want to look and feel my best. And accutane definitely improves the skin! It makes it beautiful. I'm just concerned about long-term side effects...like in 20 years! Anyone?


Re: accutane & birth defects

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 12, 1998 at 12:54:33:

In Reply to: accutane & birth defects posted by tea on February 10, 1998 at 01:38:20:

Dear tea,

The physician who prescribed it to you is the one who has to answer that for you since it is detoxified in everyone a little differently. If your doc doesn't know. S/he should never have prescribed it to you.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by Rusty on February 12, 1998 at 14:09:55:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Walt Stoll on February 07, 1998 at 08:02:13:

dear Mr Stoll...

my acne is not severe, but it really makes me look like a walking carbuncle...im a 17/m and i live in texas...i have acne about my chest and back...i think permanent scars will have formed on my back due to excessive occurences of the acne..i have heard alot of the side effects of accutane, and i am willing to take any risk to rid myself of acne..it has lowered my self esteem a great deal, and caused me to retract from society, which is unusual for a person of my talkitivity LoL..please tell me what the usual cost, and lenght of the accutane treatment...thank you for your time

Rusty


Accutane/Surgery

Posted by Utopia on February 12, 1998 at 17:44:54:

I'm in my 4th month of Accutane. I want to have breast
augmentation next month. The procedure is done through
the naval. Is there any risk regarding scar tissue
internally? My doctor has some concern, but she says
that it's directed toward scarring of the face.
Thanks


Re: Accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 13, 1998 at 10:56:02:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by cls on February 11, 1998 at 14:42:50:

Dear cls,

You are learning the hard way what I have been saying about acne for the past 20 years and, here on the BB, for years.

Acne is NOT an accutane deficiency disease. ALL people who continue to have acne past puberty have a glandular condition created by dysautonomia. If your bodymind's message about that problem are not heard from its just sending you acne, it will eventually shout louder.

There is a book written about you that you would find enlightening: "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier.

One of the dangers of accutane is that it sometimes works very well to hide the acne. If people do not know WHY they had the acne, and accutane works, they will do nothing about looking deeper.

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by Miranda on February 13, 1998 at 15:12:07:

I'm 22 and already completed my 4 months of Accutane last June. My doctor thinks I may need a second run. Is it safe? Is there anything out there stronger? My face is back to where it was before I went on Accutane. I was under the impression that the condition my skin was in when I stopped using accutane would be the worse that it would get and only get better. My skin was not perfect then, but better than now. I feel I need something stronger I also have been on a antibiotic for my skin about 4 years now. It's as though I break out if I don't take it...will I have to take them forever? Thanks


Accutane

Posted by James on February 14, 1998 at 02:42:34:

I was wondering if it was bad for your health to drink while on Accutane? If so what happens if you do?


Re: Accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 14, 1998 at 10:16:30:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Rusty on February 12, 1998 at 14:09:55:

Dear Rusty,

Use the search feature for this BB and read everything you can find about acne, accutane and accutane side-effects. Then, if you have more questions, write again.

Accutane costs vary widely from community to community and each person responds to it differently. You need the information above to even begin to judge what you should do.

Walt



Re: Accutane/Surgery

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 14, 1998 at 10:31:49:

In Reply to: Accutane/Surgery posted by Utopia on February 12, 1998 at 17:44:54:

Dear Utopia,

Only your doc can tell you that since accutane effects everyone differently. You might get a combination opinion from both the doc who prescribed it (who is likely the only one who did the necessary complete workup--prior to prescribing it--needed to answer questions like this) and the surgeon. Combine those with your having read the package insert & getting any questions you have about thst extensive bit of information answered by the docs.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by RKD on February 14, 1998 at 18:05:14:

Does Accutane produce any long term or permanent danger for birth defects? By that I mean, if one got pregnant 2 years after finishing the treatment, is there any danger of the baby having birth defects?



Re: Accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 15, 1998 at 10:19:29:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Miranda on February 13, 1998 at 15:12:07:

Dear Miranda,

What are you doing with acne at age 22? Surely by now you have figured out that acne is not an accutane deficiency disease.

The only people who continue with acne past puberty have dysautonomia and need to learn that THAT is the message your bodymind is trying to send you with the acne. AT BEST, the accutane can only muffle the message. Even if the accutane could finally resolve the acne, the dysautonomia will just have to send you a louder message--one that is not likely to be as gentle as acne. I know that you think that acne is not a gently message. However, there are many more unpleasant & dangerous ones.

Use the search feature for this BB & read everything you can find about acne, accutane & accutane side effects. THEN, if you still have questions, write again.

Walt



other symtoms?

Posted by Shelly Russell on February 15, 1998 at 11:02:50:

Dr Stoll,
I am so excited to find all this info on your web site! I can't believe so may of my symtoms have shown up here.(not) I have for years belived that it was all connected. After years of "chronic illnesses" and many doctors I began to do my own research. You are the first person especially doctor who has admitted there is a conection in all the reading I have found. I was so impressed by the BB that I am ordering 8 of your books.
I don't want to boar you will all my symtoms but was wondering if you could answer a few qustions will if they are not in your book?
I believe that I could have possibly started having problems as young as 6 months. Had expolritoy sugery (supected cancer) only to discover a inlarged or inflamed lymp gland on the bowl. I since have had anemia, chronic strep throat or soare throats, neg test to mono, fatique, thyroiditis, acne, allergyies to cats and dogs,exzemea, constipation, normal rapid heart beat by little exsertion (175) normally runs 70, weight gain, I could go on and on. One symtoms subsides and another one shows up. I did take my self of of synthroid nov 96. With a PMA (positive mental attitude) I still of! My question is could this have started so young and is there sill hope to correct it? I also did use your search but could not find info on Ademoyosis hyperplasia, carpul tunel. I also was wondering , I have noticed that sometimes when I wearing jewlery (14 K ) my fingers will turn black. Just this past july I began to have a sever migraine and with in minutes My finger thet had rings on them turned extremely black. I fell this is also related to what evey my body is trying to tell me. Could this be a harmone or chemical change in my body is my body trying to tell me something?

If any of these questions are not in your book a reply would be greatly appreciated. Glad I found your web site.

Thanks for caring enough to share your knowledge, soon as I receive your books I'l be passing it on!
Shelly


Re: Accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 16, 1998 at 10:49:45:

In Reply to: Accutane posted by James on February 14, 1998 at 02:42:34:

Dear James,

Since Accutane effects everyone differently, only the doc who (after performing the complete workup needed BEFORE prescribing it) prescribed it can answer that in YOUR case. This is why it is only available by prescription.

Also, you can get a general answer by reading the package insert.

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by Jeremy Akin on February 16, 1998 at 15:46:49:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Walt Stoll on February 16, 1998 at 10:49:45:

What affect does accutane have on the liver? Also, I work out daily and take weight gain and muscle building products.
Will this affect the results of accutane. I am 16 years old.



Re: Accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 17, 1998 at 11:08:31:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Jeremy Akin on February 16, 1998 at 15:46:49:

Dear Jeremy,

Since both accutane & anabolic steroids are metabolized in the liver, I would be VERY careful about combining them.

A good wellness program would not only clear up your acne but would greatly enhance your body-building efforts (see link below for how to get my book with the protocols). It, at least would do a lot more good than anabolic hormones AND only has positive side effects. One of the side effects of anabolic hormones is acne.

You need to read the package insert for accutane. You would get a head start by reading everything on this BB about acne, accutane and accutane side-effects. Use the search feature provided for this BB for each search.

THEN, is you still have more questions, write again.

Walt



Re: In reply to: RE: Accutane/and Dr Stoll

Posted by Brian on February 18, 1998 at 19:34:45:

First of all, I am an 18 year old male, and I am concerned about my acne problem. I am currently looking into the use of Accutane for myself, but my father is very opposed. He is scared for me that I could have bad long term effects. I am curious if anyone knows anything about long term effects of Accutane for males. Are there any problems for males like the birth defect problem for females? Also, I just read an article on the Internet about how Inflammatory Bowel Disease is related to the use of Accutane. Does anyone know if there is any truth do this? I am not sure as to what exactly constitutes cystic acne either. Could someone also give me a description of this? I have a doctor's appointment set up, but I am just looking for Accutane related information so that I go into the appointment with previous knowledge on it. Also, my friend took Accutane and told me about how he had to have blood tests taken while he was taking Accutane. He said it is to check up on the patients to see if Accutane is affecting their livers. This fact disturbed me at first. I was wondering if anyone could also give me information as to why this blood testing is done. Thank you very much for your time.
Any help/answers to my questions would be greatly appreciated. Also, if you know of any good Accutane information resources on the Internet, that, too, would be greatly appreaciated.
Thank you,
Brian

If you could E-Mail me the information, I would greatly appreciate it, as it is easier for me to access.


Re: Accutane

Posted by Kim on February 18, 1998 at 23:42:42:

In Reply to: Accutane posted by Cindy B on February 06, 1998 at 20:23:08:

Hi, Cindy can you tell me what your dosage was. Can you also tell me if its important to eat a low fat and sugar diet. I'm also on accutane, and i was wondering if your suppose to watch what you eat because i tend to eat a high fat and sugar diet. Accutane does tend to increase these levels.




Re: Accutane

Posted by Antonio S on February 19, 1998 at 12:44:13:

A lot of people will tell you "NO" to accutane, because of side effects, first things first, THERE IS NO OTHER TREATMENTS, all the other commercial adds, and topical jells, and also Tetricycline based medicines, will NOT work for your daughter no matter what she does, you will spend thousands and thousands of dollars if you continue using other so called treatments for acne, 98% of the time Accutane has NO side effects if take Correctly, and under supervision of a doctor, The only side effect is the Begging course, which will bring out your daughters acne more and more, but after 8 weeks there is almost a gurantee your daughters acne will BE GONE, Keep this in mind, when using ACCUTANE< do not take any other products, being Tablets, or Topical treatments, use a basic Soap Such as Phisoderm.


accutane/herpes????

Posted by maddy on February 19, 1998 at 20:52:06:

dear doc,
i am just finishing my last month of acutane treatment. my skin looks great, but i have been having some problems that i just recently found out could be connected to accutane. i have been getting sore throats alot lately. my throat is always swollen and red. i saw my general physician and he tested me for mono--but the test came back negative. i have twice noticed a small pimple like bump on my croch. but both times i had recently shaved my bikni line and didnt think much of it till i read this BB. it wasnt like razor burn either time. befor i started school in the fall i had a herpes vaccination--could that have exposed me to the virus and with a weak immune system given me herpes? i am going to go see my general physician soon because i am worried, but i wanted some info that i could take to him, not just vague symptoms. give me your advice please.


Re: Accutane - A Modest Proposal for Walt Stoll

Posted by RaeAnna Lawton on February 19, 1998 at 22:28:22:


I truly don't appreciate how you basically labeled all or
most (I'll give you that) teenagers as unwilling, uninterested, and almost uncapable of learning for THEMSELVES. I would consider that very stereotypical of you, even for a 17 yr. old might I add. If you are talking about all these holistic remedies, don't you think that there should be at least some positivity put into it? And not the opitomie of teenagers..Just a thoughtful concern from a dull teenager.

ps..I have took the liberty of reading everything I could find on Accutane, since I started taking it about 2 months ago, but remember, we must take some things like a grain of salt..


Re: Accutane

Posted by Shelly Russell on February 19, 1998 at 22:49:28:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Jeremy Akin on February 16, 1998 at 15:46:49:

Jeremy,
I hope your Dr is taking blood work 1 to 2 time a month. Not only is acutane hard on the liver but can increase you cholesterol levels . I would encourage you to read all the information you can find on acutane and it's long term side effects. Try to find out wht is causing your acne, puberity or stress. If it is not puberity the acne will be back no matter how much acutane you take.
Want to bulid your muscle and sculpture your body with out supplements. Read Dr Stoll's Book learn how to relax and meditate with biobackfeed you can teach your self to tell your body waht you want it to do. Also get as much info on eating right and the right nutriention. This is much easier less work and no worrys about side effect. (once your learn all the techniques)
Best of luck,
Shelly


Re: Accutane

Posted by mustard on February 20, 1998 at 15:30:04:

Most of the warnings of terrible side effects are generalized and not helpful for evaluating the overall effect of accutane.


Re: Accutane

Posted by shannon on February 21, 1998 at 01:41:13:

I am 23 years old and for some reason I started to break out with cystic acne and its horrible. i have tried everything from the dermatolgist and am considering accutane. I want to find out what happens in the long run like in 10 years .Does it age your skin and will my skin be perfect?


Re: Accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 21, 1998 at 10:23:30:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by mustard on February 20, 1998 at 15:30:04:

Dear mustard,

ALL medical authorities KNOW that accutane should only be used as a last resort. Typical for the conventional medical profession, it is misused by giving it willy nilly just to get a fee for prescribing it.

Those who look to accutane as a first line of defence will likely be disappointed in the long run. There are many healthier approaches that benefit the entire spectrum of that person's health at the same time.

Those who have had the complete workup required, PRIOR to prescribing Accutane, AND have read the package insert--and STILL want to take this magic pill rather than learn about their alternatives--should be perfectly welcome to do it. This is called informed consent and should be the basis for ALL recommended approaches to any condition (conventional and complementary).

Walt



Acne

Posted by Mike on February 21, 1998 at 14:57:49:

Hi Dr.Stoll
I see from my searches that you are very negative on accutane and other acne treatments. I used accutane for one month about three years ago and decided to end my treatment because I came to my senses with regards to the possible side effects(I had not experienced any though). The one month treatment seemed to help clear up my back and facial acne to the point where I thought mine was no worse than most of my age. I am now 24 white male and my acne is still with me and my facial acne tends to operate in flare ups where I go from having one or two small "zit-like" spots to having 7-15 combination of small pimples to larger hard, red pus filled pimples that can not be squeezed to reduce the size and are very painfull. As well, my acne pimples/postules are very slow healing (approx 10-21 days). I do not want to go back on accutane but I am the point in my life where I don't think I should have acne anymore and I certainly don't want to have it anymore. I am currently trying the product Proactive Solution from Rodan and Fields to no avail. Could you please briefly describe what you feel is the best acne treatment and how I can get more info on your recommendation. I live in Canada so I need to determine beforehand if it's worth purchasing anymore product from the U.S. due to custom delays and currancy exchange.
P.S. will your recommendation help the acne on my back and chest as well?


Re: Acne

Posted by Cindy on February 21, 1998 at 15:11:49:

In Reply to: Acne posted by Mike on February 21, 1998 at 14:57:49:

Dr. Stoll & Mike- I am faced with the same problem. I've always seem to have some sort of breakouts on my face. But, within the past 3 years they have gotten worse. I've seen several doctors and no one seems to help. I am 28 and I have the same type of acne as Mike. Several pimples that are slow to heal and they often hurt. My husband and I joke that I would get carded if I went into a bar because I look like I should be a teenager. My diet is good. I just don't understand how other people don't suffer from this problem and I have it so bad. What am I doing wrong? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

PS-Dr. Stoll, I used to read your notes on Prodigy and found them to be so helpful. I'm glad I have finally met up with you again. :>


Re: Accutane

Posted by BLUESMAID on February 21, 1998 at 18:35:21:

ANYONE TAKING THE ACCUTANE MEDICATION....MY VERY CLOSE FRIEND HAS TAKEN ACCUTANE AND SHE EXPIRENCED A VERY SUDDEN AND PERMINENT VISUAL CHANGE. HAS ACCUTANE EVER CAUSED SOMEONE TO GO BLIND???

PLEASE RESPOND ASAP!!!


Re: Acne

Posted by Ron on February 22, 1998 at 01:04:33:

In Reply to: Acne posted by Mike on February 21, 1998 at 14:57:49:

A few questions:

How much Vitamin C do you take?

Do you take Niacin? Other Bs?

Do you avoid ALL superfluous fat and processed foods?

(Processed foods always have bad oils in them.)

Do you take EFAs GLA 6, EPA 3?

Do you smoke?

Consume lots of dairy products?

Eat lots of fresh green vegetables?

Eat in restaurants? Frequently?

Let me know. I think I can help.

Ron




Re: Acne

Posted by Shelly Russell on February 22, 1998 at 01:09:41:

In Reply to: Acne posted by Mike on February 21, 1998 at 14:57:49:

Mike,

I am 37 years of age and have been on Acutane twice in a 5 years span. Guess what while on Acutane and about two years after my acne was find then bingo it was back. You will find here on this BB and other BB"S directly related to acne most people who are on Acutane no matter how many times can't get rid of it. Acne is just a symptom of an underlying cause. Even though you are only 24 I bet you will find you have other symptoms listed some where on this BB. You probably just didn't realize they are all connected. I Encourage you to read other messages on here other than just acutane and this will give you a better unstanding. I would also reccomend Dr Stoll's Book link below. You don't have to live with the acne if you are willing to learn and understand YOUR body. Don't spend a fortune in skincare to cure your acne. I believe Dr Stoll is away untill the 24th , so while you are waiting for a reply check out as much as you can on this web site. Good luck!

Shelly



Diet and acne

Posted by Kim on February 22, 1998 at 20:23:31:

Hi, Dr. Stoll i wanted to know if diet really causes acne. I have very bad acne, i'm currently on accutane and its making it worse than ever. If diet does cause acne, which foods should i avoid? Please name all of them and which foods i should eat more of. Your respond would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kim



Re: Accutane

Posted by MIKEY on February 23, 1998 at 02:41:08:

Dont worry about it...I was on Accutane for about 8months and my skin looked great after the treatment was over and then I began to break out again........it happens to alot of people...your skin wont go back to the way it was before its natural to break out again.....but if by any chance u began to later on see major breakouts u might have to go back on accutane.....



Re: Accutane

Posted by wendy on February 23, 1998 at 05:11:00:


DR. Stohl You are a very angry rude person. The way you deal with these people and answer there questions is with such anger and hostility and very insulting . I fund your comments not useful it's obvious you are a naturalist and don't want people to take this drug or any. You need to do something elser with your time. You are too biased ro be of any service to anyone.


Re: Accutane

Posted by wendy on February 23, 1998 at 05:19:09:


Could you please tell me where to get better info on accutane? and tell]me your side effects. I just started accutane and don't have severe acne at all. My doctor just told me I should try it to get rid of my acne . I already have herpes does this make it worse. And do most side effects subside? Thanks


Re: Accutane- /wake up, Wendy

Posted by Jim on February 23, 1998 at 09:22:17:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by wendy on February 23, 1998 at 05:11:00:

Wendy,

On September 25, Dr. Stoll answered a request for information on this board. From that one request alone follow a strand of nearly two hundred and fifty responses. Some are from people who have had what they consider miracle cures from Accutane, but some are from those who feel they have been permanently disfigured by the use of the same drug. Emotions always seem to run high around this issue. You have jupmed into an ongoing dialog about which you are unaware!

Dr. Stoll has repeatedly pointed out that the initial positive results from Accutane are often just that, (initial) and the disease in only suppressed temporarily. Notice I said "suppressed." That may seem wonderful to a sufferer (I know, I had it way before this drug was available), but Dr. Stoll's message is that there is another way (a natural way, as you point out).

If you had read the other two hundred and fifty responses, you would get quite an education. I know, I did. Dr. Stoll is in favor of patients making informed decisions, whether it is to use medication or have surgery. The key is educating oneself.

You have come on to the board without knowledge of where you stepped into the discussion. You have responded to what Dr. Stoll had to say to someone else without the background to understand what he is saying and why. I am writing this not so much for you, because I don't know if you will even be back to read it, but for any other first timers so they will know to not judge so quickly.

Use the "Search" function on this board and put in "Accutane" or "Acne" and get a real education with all points of view. You will also find a number or rude, hostile, and ignorant points of view expressed by frustrated participants towards Dr. Stoll. Dr. Stoll's point of view is obvious. You call it bias. His is based on years of experience treating this dread disease. What is yours based on?

Jim





accutane

Posted by jamie on February 23, 1998 at 17:50:09:

Does accutane have any affect on athletic endurance? Will taking such a powerful drug have any affect on an athlete's ability to perform?


Re: Acne

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 23, 1998 at 18:08:10:

In Reply to: Re: Acne posted by Cindy on February 21, 1998 at 15:11:49:

Hi, Cindy.

Welcome back! I appreciate your help.

I am electing to answer this entire string with this note.

Use the search feature and read everything you can find about acne, accutane and accutane side effects.

I am NOT down on accutane--just on anyone prescribing it except as a last resort.

ANYONE with acne past puberty has a glandular imbalance caused by stress-effect storage in the hypothalamus. For those who do not understand this verbiage, read my book OR "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier and you will begin to see the way out of it.

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by Michelle on February 23, 1998 at 20:19:10:

Dear Walt,
I exercise regularly and eat fairly healthy, no fried foods, beef, sodium...etc. I still get breakouts all the time. My dermatologist even said that food has nothing to do with acne.


Re: Acne

Posted by Cindy on February 23, 1998 at 23:26:31:

In Reply to: Re: Acne posted by Walt Stoll on February 23, 1998 at 18:08:10:

Dr. Stoll- I got your book and haven't finished reading it yet. Your verbiage makes complete sense to me (I resently took an Anatamy & Physiology class). I will also check out Dr. Pelletier's book. I am not taking Accutane and never have. I don't intend to. I feel it is to harmful for my system, and wouldn't want to subject my body to that. I am looking into natural cures. I know there is something out there--it is just a matter of finding it (and not getting discouraged in the meantime). As always, thanks for your help! Cindy :>


Re: Diet and acne

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 24, 1998 at 13:45:15:

In Reply to: Diet and acne posted by Kim on February 22, 1998 at 20:23:31:

Dear Kim,

In MY opinion, diet only aggravates acne and has little to do with causing it.

If you are going to mount a major effort to resolve this problem, you would best first start with skilled relaxation. See this link to start you in the right direction: Skilled Relaxation.

I have yet to see a case that was not normal within 6-12 months by starting a wellness program (which included the relaxation technique mentioned above). For the protocols for "wellness" look at this link: How to be Healthy.

THEN, if you need more information, get a copy of my book (link below).

If you still have questions, write again.

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by Angie on February 25, 1998 at 01:03:55:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Walt Stoll on February 23, 1998 at 18:22:58:

Hi i'm 16, and i have been on accutane for about 2 weeks now. I don't know if it's because of the accutane but my back has been hurting lately could that be some kind of side effect? And also i was wondering how soon should i be noticing a good difference in my face?


Re: accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 25, 1998 at 14:10:12:

In Reply to: accutane posted by jamie on February 23, 1998 at 17:50:09:

Dear Jamie,

Only the package insert and the doc who prescribed it can tell you this in YOUR case.

I can tell you that the alternatives to taking accutane include wellness which ALWAYS enhances athletic performance.

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by Tara on February 25, 1998 at 14:24:19:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Angie on February 25, 1998 at 01:03:55:

i have been off of Accutane for about 2 weeks now. My experiemce has been wonderful. It has heled my face 100%. I have not had a pimple forever. It has even helped my lose wieght. I say that anyone considering taking this pill should. Now my face is beatuiful compared to how it was about 6 months ago. This pill has turly changed my life. I have had no side effects, expect for about the first few weeks, i had back aches. This is a smart thing to take.



Re: Accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 25, 1998 at 14:33:40:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Angie on February 25, 1998 at 01:03:55:

Dear Angie,

Only the package insert AND the doc who prescribed the accutane can answer those questions for you.

Use the search feature for this BB & read everything you can find about acne, accutane and accutane side-effects. You will likely find your answers there as well.

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 25, 1998 at 14:47:26:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Michelle on February 23, 1998 at 20:19:10:

Dear Michele,

Your dermatologist is wrong. However, diet is NOT a big factor in resolving it in MOST people. In SOME, it is a major factor.

By far the most important factor in resolving long standing acne is the regular practice of effective skilled relaxation at least 20 minutes twice a day (never within 2 hours of retiring). Acne is always related to a balance of the endocrine system. Why do you think that most common time for it is during adolescence?

The most common thing in our culture that upsets the function of the endocrine system includes dysautonomia and an imbalance of psychoneuroimmunology. If you want to understand this in depth, read Dr Pelletier's classic book:
"Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer".

THEN, if you still have questions, write again. It is very significant that you only mentioned the 2 least effective ways to help resolve this.

Walt



Re: Accutane

Posted by C.R on February 25, 1998 at 19:08:27:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Tara on February 25, 1998 at 14:24:19:

my boyfriend has acne. I have really good skin so it kind of bothers me when I can't touch his face and people comment on it. I want to help him by telling him about accutane, but the side effects that some people have told me about sound serious. How should I tell him about accutane and do you recommend it? What are the most common side effects that he will get if he takes it? Please reply as soon as possible.


Re: Accutane

Posted by Sandy on February 25, 1998 at 19:47:07:

My daughter has been on accutane two times and has been off now for about 8 months. Her skin looks great and her confidence is back. He self esteem was so low when she was having skin problems, she did not feel very good about her self at all. Now she is back and very happy and feels good about herself. She had no side effects except the dry lips and she could live with that. She is not in college and is doing well.


Re: Accutane

Posted by sandy on February 25, 1998 at 19:54:33:

Walt,
You want to talk about stress, how about the stress of not feeling good about yourself? I saw a bright outgoing young girl turn into a girl that could not look people in the eyes and hated the way she looked. That added much stress to her life.

sandy


Accutane

Posted by sandy on February 25, 1998 at 20:17:40:

I have a daughter that has been on accutane two times. Her skin looks great and she again feels great!! She had no side effects except the dry lips and that was something that she could live with. Feeling bad about yourself was not.



Re: Accutane

Posted by Amanda on February 25, 1998 at 21:00:59:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Sandy on February 25, 1998 at 19:47:07:

my doctor prescribed accutane for me on november twenty-fourth. i do not have disfiguring acne...merely a few facial blemishes. she thought that this was the way to go. i have suffered from some severe sumptoms...so severe in fact, that my dosage is now only forty milligrams each day. i hate it...i feel miserable...my lips especially. this is hell!


Re: Accutane

Posted by Sean on February 26, 1998 at 02:07:52:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Amanda on February 25, 1998 at 21:00:59:


I have been on Accutane for 4 months and have nothing but good things to say about the treatment. The few side effects I have had (very dry lips, some dry skin patches, and sluggishness) are in my opinion a small price to pay for a cure;finally. I did have disfiguring acne and it would not go away, that is could not treat and tried everything. I have used accutane as a last resort and believe that is how it should be prescribed due to the serious possible side effects. This medication also requires a serious dose of something many of us are lacking while with a problem such as acne. Common sense. It says right in the information that comes with every dosage of accutane that it is a drug that must be carefully monitored. Little things like a headache and dark urine are to be watched for. At the point that most start taking accutane though, they are desperate and willing to do anything to get rid of the problem. I simply stress again that caution and good sense must be used when on this medication. If it looks like a problem it is!! Be careful and attentive to yourself while on this medication and take only as a last resort. There are plenty of other possiblities out there (tetracycline, retin-a) to name a few, also herbal and "natural methods" yes Ive tried everything, accupuncture, herbal therapy(worked pretty well) facials, numerous acne products. A serious problem requires a serious cure. This was it for me, but not before I exhausted my options. Accutane should not be taken lightly. It can be the best thing to happen to you though, It has been for me.


Re: Accutane

Posted by BILL on February 26, 1998 at 08:20:38:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Sean on February 26, 1998 at 02:07:52:

I used accutane as a teenager when I had disfiguring acne on my face and back. Aside from the dry lips, which were a small price to pay, it was the greatest thing I ever used to "cure" the acne. It really did work and the few side effects suffered were well worth it. I still get occasional blemishes, but who doesnt? Nothing like what I dealt with as a late teen and in to my early adult stages.


ACCUTANE

Posted by STEVE on February 26, 1998 at 08:48:13:


If anyone in the NY area saw the Accutane special report last night and knows how to get a copy please email me.

I'd rather not comment on something I don't have all the facts on but, the NEW report has to do with severe depression and worse.... while using Accutane.

I took Accutane last year and I wouldn't reccommend it to anyone.... unless they were absolutely desperate.

I'd like to get my hands on this report before I start spreading all this anti-accutane info......

Thanks - Steve


Re: Acne

Posted by steve on February 26, 1998 at 11:05:23:

In Reply to: Re: Acne posted by Cindy on February 23, 1998 at 23:26:31:


Hey all,

Glad to find this board..... I've been kind of out of place on other boards where "Negative" talk about Accutane is frowned upon because it may shatter the hopes of the young kids looking for a wonder cure. I understand this but I also understand that Accuatne is extemely powerful and I feel it is greatly overused.
My story: I went on Accutane lats year for 6 months. I had cystic acne... not your worst case but.........
I felt "Out of it" for a good portion of my accutane course... I could feel the drug through my body... it was just an erie feeling. My head was cloudy..... my life was turned upside down... I normally worked out and socialized a lot and during this time I could do little of either one.
I really have my doubts about how much "They" know about long term and short term effects of this drug.

The makers of Accutane are now putting a warning on the label regarding depression and suicide....Hmmmmmmmm

Well..... while on accutane my complexion pretty much stabilized or was slightly better. When I was done I was clear for about a month.... slowly but surely my acne came back worse than ever.... NOW my acne was highly cystic.... these were no longer small zits ..... these were growths.

Well...... after my der told me I should go on a second course of Accutane I said NO WAY.

After looking for alternative methods of treatment I found a diet program and combined with excercise...... has done wonders.

TODAY I'M JUST ABOUT TOTALLY CLEAR....! ! !

You guys should have seen my nasty posts right after my Accutane course.

Another note..... it amazes me how derms say "DIET HAS NO EFFECT ON ACNE... EAT WHATEVER"....

That's such a load of bull........ I'm convinced that diet and well being is EVERYTHING.

Well.... that's it for now.... if anyone has AOL, check out the acne message board.... check out how all the people here are trying drug after drug looking for a MIRACLE. Anyone who comes on to this board and even hints at alternative methods gets RIPPED APART. Come around and help out..... its an education for everyone.. and I look forward to reading Dr. Stolls book..... it sounds like its what I'm looking for and pretty much what I've dicovered on my own anyway.




Re: Acne

Posted by steve on February 26, 1998 at 11:06:19:

In Reply to: Re: Acne posted by steve on February 26, 1998 at 11:05:23:


Here is that Accutane report:


Accutane Label to Warn of Suicidal Urges
Updated 2.10 p.m. ET (1910 GMT) February 25, 1998

By Maggie Fox, WASHINGTON Makers of a popular prescription acne medication said Wednesday they would add a warning to the label telling doctors to look out for depression and suicidal tendencies in their patients.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Hoffmann-La Roche said they had received reports of depression and suicide in teen-agers taking Accutane, its prescription product for severe acne.

"Although the Accutane label already included information regarding depression as a possible adverse reaction, the agency felt health care providers and others needed additional information as a result of severe adverse event reports the agency has received," the FDA said in a statement.

The Nutley, New Jersey-based company would not say how many reports it had received but said it was worried enough to strengthen label warnings that already describe the risk.

"The people that treat people with acne should be more attentive to symptoms of depression, psychosis ... and suicide," Roche spokeswoman Kellie McLaughlin said.

She said there was no evidence the drug actually caused these symptoms.

"It's based on some of the MedWatch reports that FDA and Hoffman have received," she said. MedWatch is a system set up by the FDA with drug companies to track reactions to drugs that are on the market.

"We looked at it and we thought this was a population at risk," she added. "Teen-agers have a higher incidence of depression than most. It's very hard to tease out exactly what is causing the depression."

McLaughlin said Roche had invited experts to examine the reports, but they were unable to find evidence of anything the drug might be doing to cause depression.

The FDA also declined to give numbers of suicides.

The new label, written with the approval of the FDA, will say no mechanism of action has been established. This means the drug might not be the cause, and taking a depressed teen-ager off Accutane might not solve the problem.

"Discontinuation of Accutane therapy my be insufficient; further evaluation may be necessary," the label will say.

The FDA said, "Because some patients who reported depression also reported that the depression subsided when they stopped taking the drug and came back when they resumed taking it, the agency and manufacturer felt the strenghtened warning was warranted as a precautionary measure."

"That's been about a dozen cases," an FDA spokeswoman said.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said there is a daily average of 86 suicides in the United States, and 1,900 attempts by adults.

More than 31,000 people committed suicide in 1995 and it is the third-highest cause of death among people aged 15 to 24. Eight million people in 80 countries have taken Accutane, known generically as isotretinoin. Approved by the FDA in 1982, it is also sold as Roaccutane.

Accutane is prescribed for "severe, recalcitrant acne." "It's for the very worst form of acne and recalcitrant means that nothing else has worked," McLaughlin said.

"I like to describe the accutane patient as the kid we all remember as having the worst acne in the school the face that breaks your heart." Teen-agers, already at a higher risk of depression, might understandably be upset by such a problem, she said.

Accutane can cause severe birth defects and must not be used by women who might become pregnant.


Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved 1998, News America Digital Publishing, Inc. d/b/a Fox News Online.
All rights reserved. Fox News is a registered trademark of 20th Century Fox Film Corp. comments@foxnews.com


Re: Accutane

Posted by Gay Lynn on February 26, 1998 at 12:07:18:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Sean on February 26, 1998 at 02:07:52:

I am 43 years old and took Accutane for 2 months. During that time, I became severely depressed and attributed it to the drug, so I did a little research on the net. Depression was listed under the small print of potential side effects. I quit taking it and my symptoms disappeared. There is an AP article in today's paper regarding just this issue. My cheeks are still very dry and patchy, but the cystic acne is gone. Was it worth it? I'm not sure yet - it's a very strong drug and doctors need to become more aware of the potential side effects - mine did not seemed too concerned about my depression and did not really relate it to the drug. It was the first time in my life that I had ever felt that depressed. So users - pay attention!



Re: ACCUTANE

Posted by Ryan on February 26, 1998 at 14:37:56:

In Reply to: ACCUTANE posted by STEVE on February 26, 1998 at 08:48:13:

I think i found a report at www.fda.gov
This is the food and drug admin of USA so it probably is legit.


Re: Acne

Posted by MIKE on February 26, 1998 at 19:02:50:

In Reply to: Re: Acne posted by Ron on February 22, 1998 at 01:04:33:

HI RON, THANKS FOR RESPONDING.

I DON'T TAKE ANY VITAMINS AND I DRINK ONE GLASS OF 1% MILK PER DAY. I'M A MEAT & POTATOES TYPE OF GUY WITH NOT MUCH VEGATABLES - MAYBE ONE SALAD A WEEK. I EAT OUT USUALLY TWICE A WEEK, WITH ONE USUALLY BEING SOME TYPE OF FAST FOOD. AND YES I DO SMOKE ABOUT SEVEN CIGARETTES PER DAY UP TO HALF A PACK.

HOPE YOU CAN HELP.
MIKE




Re: Accutane

Posted by angie on February 26, 1998 at 21:12:09:

I am almost 22 and started taking accutane in September, 1997. I was going through some depression before I got on the medicine and when I got on accutane it gradually got worse event hough I was taking an anti-depressant. I had many suicidal thoughts and a lot of rage. I heard on the news yesterday that new reports show that depression and suicide are greatly increased in adolescants and young adults taking accutane. I finished my five months yesterday and am hoping that I will get back to a more even killed frame of mind. It sounds like some people do fine on it though. I think it just needs to be very closely monitored.
It is not worth other severe complications. If you see symptoms that worry you then get off. My depression only got worse with time. Good luck!





Re: ACCUTANE

Posted by angie on February 26, 1998 at 21:20:30:

In Reply to: ACCUTANE posted by STEVE on February 26, 1998 at 08:48:13:

I also heard about the new report out about acuutane and depression. I am was depressed before I got on the accutane but it got a whole lot worse three weeks after I got on it. I was hospitalized this week over night because my friends were scared for my safety. This med. has to be monitored very carefully. It did help my face but I really hope this depression levels off now that I have taken my last pill. Please take precaution!



Re: Accutane

Posted by angie on February 26, 1998 at 21:28:42:

I am almost 22 and started taking accutane in September, 1997. I was going through some depression before I got on the medicine and when I got on accutane it gradually got worse event hough I was taking an anti-depressant. I had many suicidal thoughts and a lot of rage. I heard on the news yesterday that new reports show that depression and suicide are greatly increased in adolescants and young adults taking accutane. I finished my five months yesterday and am hoping that I will get back to a more even killed frame of mind. It sounds like some people do fine on it though. I think it just needs to be very closely monitored.
It is not worth other severe complications. If you see symptoms that worry you then get off. My depression only got worse with time. Good luck!





Re: ACCUTANE

Posted by Ted on February 27, 1998 at 01:03:28:

In Reply to: Re: ACCUTANE posted by angie on February 26, 1998 at 21:20:30:

My friend was on accutane and he attempted suicide mmonday, the 23 of february and died the wednesday after. I heard that accutane can cause severe depression and mood swings.. I was wondering if it could be the cause for his and others suicides.


Re: Acne

Posted by steve on February 27, 1998 at 08:37:08:

In Reply to: Re: Acne posted by MIKE on February 26, 1998 at 19:07:53:


Hey Mike,
I assume your the same guy who posted this:

I DON'T TAKE ANY VITAMINS AND I DRINK ONE GLASS OF 1% MILK PER DAY. I'M A MEAT & POTATOES TYPE OF GUY WITH NOT MUCH VEGATABLES - MAYBE ONE SALAD A WEEK. I EAT OUT USUALLY TWICE A WEEK, WITH ONE USUALLY BEING SOME TYPE OF FAST FOOD. AND YES I DO SMOKE ABOUT SEVEN CIGARETTES PER DAY UP TO HALF A PACK.

I'm no expert in the least..... But I did have success and I did have cystic acne, the depression... you know the story.

I'll say one thing... it seems like Dr. Stoll's programs would be a start.. I haven't read them yet but, it seems to me to be pretty much what's needed.

I think people try diet programs and only give it 50%..... I think it takes a 110% effort... NO Messing around this is YOUR FACE ! ! ! !
Looking at your diet above..... I'd say.. cut out the fast food PERIOD ! ! ! read about food combining... you shouldn't eat meat with potatoes..... read about it ! ! ! Cut out the dairy NO MILK NO CHEESE ! ! ! ! Eat lots of fruit and veggies... drink lots of water NO SODA. Vitamins could help ... though I just started taking them. Stay away from pasta, white bread, and proceesed foods...... Eat whole wheat breads and no fried foods.

I know, whats left? Well I still slip in pizza and junk every now and then... especially late night on the weekends... but only when my face is pretty clear and then I spend the next couple of days on a strict diet.
OK.... I lost 25 lbs after spending 2 years lifting weights and getting up to 180....but its all about BALANCE and what you want more..... do you want to pig out on chicken wings and pizza and have your face deformed or do you want to eat fruits and veggies... relax... and be clean ????

good luck...... I guess you know the cig's are no good?

- steve



Re: Accutane

Posted by Ron Owensby on February 27, 1998 at 09:45:04:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by sandy on February 25, 1998 at 19:54:33:

A local news cast on the 25th of this month had a blurb about accutane. The FDA announced that depression may be a side efect of accutane use. The drug company countered by saying depression is normal in those people with acne because of their condition.

My 22 year old son, who was on his third or fourth accutane treatment, committed suicide on September 15th. Cause, contributing factor? Who knows? Just keep this in mind when considering this drug.


Re: Accutane

Posted by MaryJo Agosta on February 27, 1998 at 11:31:23:

i have been off accutane for 2 months
over that time i experienced conjuntivitis, urinary tract infection, bronchitis, dry everything, itchiness, etc.

now i hear that accutane has caused depression and i wonder if that is what caused my depression

by the way
i have beautiful skin now
but was it worth it?




Re: Accutane

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 27, 1998 at 14:46:13:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Tara on February 25, 1998 at 14:24:19:

Dear Tara,

I hope you will also share with us how you are doing in a year or so.

If this recurrs, I hope you will take the time to use the search feature provided with this BB & read everything you can find about acne, accutane and accutane side-effects.

So far as anyone knows, acne is NOT an accutane deficiency disease (grin).

I am glad you have had a positive experience with accutane (so far).

Walt



Re: In reply to: RE: Accutane/and Dr Stoll

Posted by Jason on February 27, 1998 at 15:07:40:

In Reply to: Re: In reply to: RE: Accutane/and Dr Stoll posted by Walt Stoll on February 19, 1998 at 06:38:56:


I took accutane for eight months and got of of it in November of 1997. I was watching the news yesterday and there was a report that linked accutane to brain damage and depression. Please help me and tell me wether I should be worried or not. I'm no Dr. and far from it.
Thank you.
Jason


Re: Accutane (generic)

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 27, 1998 at 15:31:00:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Ron Owensby on February 27, 1998 at 09:45:04:


I have never said that Accutane should never be used. I have ALWAYS said that it is a remedy of last resort. Unfortunately, conventional medical students are not taught to teach people what they can do to help themselves for ANYTHING--especially acne. If the doc has nothing else to offer, Accutane comes to the top of the short list pretty quick.

Since there is a lot more money to be made by the physician by prescribing accutane, than by teaching ANYTHING, the individual is going to have take the responsibility for learning their own options.

The reason I have donated so many thousands of hours to this BB is to make it easier for people to get this information. In the end, it has to be the patient's informed consent that decides. My complaint is that few MDs give the information necessary for the patient to have true informed consent: "Just pay me & I will happily do your thinking for you."

Walt




Re: Accutane

Posted by Monica on February 27, 1998 at 17:58:29:

About a year ago, I started my Accutane treatment. I had had oily, blemishy skin since puberty, and no matter what topical stuff I tried, nothing would work. (Both my parents have very oily skin, so genetically I was screwed from the get-go.) My doctor was very informative about potential side effects and cautioned me about the drug (since my acne wasn't extreme, he first suggested Retin-A, but I said to go with the "big cannon" right away). I am thrilled with the results I received - Accutane was a miracle to me. I couldn't believe the difference I saw in my skin after about a month on the drug - I hadn't had such complexion since I was 12 years old. The joy and self confidence one feels when a problem this lengthy and consistent is finally gone is incredible! Sure, I had itchy, rashy hands off and on during the treatment, and my lips couldn't go an hour without vaseline, but that - in my opinion - was a very small price to pay for the solution to my problem. Having had greasy, blotchy skin covered with blackheads for ten years, and suddenly seeing peachy, glowing smoothness was a relief and thrill beyond description. I am a total Accutane fan.


Re: Accutane - response to Jan Aaker

Posted by Monica on February 27, 1998 at 18:28:02:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Jan Aaker on February 06, 1998 at 11:32:21:

Jan - I suffered from oily, blemishy skin pretty much since I hit puberty. In January 1997 I started a 4.5-month Accutane treatment, and I cannot begin to describe the positive results I experienced. For me, it took about a month before I saw any changes in my skin, but once things started happening, they happened fast - we're talking about a week, and I went through a transformation that, after so many years of suffering, I almost thought was impossible. Smooth, peachy skin - no oil, no blackheads, not even a red pimple "that time of month". Sure, during my first couple of weeks on the drug, I experienced flu-like sypmtoms for a day or two; headache, mild nausea and fatigue. Plus, my hands were itchy and rashy off and on and I couldn't live without vaseline for my lips and nostrils, but in my mind that was a small price to pay for the "new me", literally. I highly recommed trying Accutance - yes, I have heard all the "horror stories", but if my testimony can influence anyone out there who's suffering to try the drug and hopefully experience the same transformation I did - I'd be thrilled - for your sake! (Good luck with your wedding preparations)


Re: Accutane

Posted by matt on February 27, 1998 at 23:34:28:

I'm 20 yrs. old and just started accutane yesterday. I have mild cystic acne. I read all of the possible side effects before I started the drug. However, I'm currently reading personal opinions of this 'miracle' drug. I have two personal questions: first what adverse reactions will i encounter if i continue my 'serious' bodybuilding lifestyle while on this drug? And secondly, how much sun can I expose my skin to? Obviously it's individually related. However is going to Florida for spring break going to be a problem? Thanks for reading this and have a great day.
please reply
matt


Re: Accutane

Posted by John on February 28, 1998 at 07:28:28:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Gay Lynn on February 26, 1998 at 12:07:18:

My son just finished a course of treatment with accutane. During the time that he was on it he became very depressed and his grades went way down. He had severe cyctic acne which has gone away, however, he still has regular acne. He had almost all of the side effects listed in the warnings. The labels mentioned mood swings, but it was only with the recent news releases that we learned that the medication could have been causing his depression.



oily skin

Posted by Steve on February 28, 1998 at 12:16:35:

I have read the testimonials of accutane, I have been sufferring from very very oily skin and acne somewhat controlled by antibiotics. My question is - do you think accutane will decrease the amount of sebum that my face produces?



Re: Accutane

Posted by Courtney Brown on February 28, 1998 at 15:06:50:

My daughter Courtney is 17, she was given a prescription for
accutance. She got a rash. Dr. Said stop taking it. She wanted to continue because it had shown signifigant results in clearing up her acne. She is desperate to find a good substitute for the Accutane. Could you please help asap.

Thank you,
CONCERNED FATHER, Bobby Brown



Re: Accutane

Posted by Denali on February 28, 1998 at 15:28:18:

In Reply to: Re: Accutane posted by Monica on February 27, 1998 at 17:58:29:

Monica, how bad was your complexion before you started? Did you constantly have blemishes? I don't have the "all-over" acne, but do suffer from cystic acne on my chin and nose. I've tried everything, too, including the retin-a and many antibiotics. I have just been hesitant about accutane even though it was suggested by my dermatologist. The blood tests and side effects seem so scary. How long were you on the drug? How long have the results lasted? Thank you for your story!


Re: Accutane

Posted by Jesse on February 28, 1998 at 15:47:42:

I am 18 years old. I started using Accutane last year and
it changed my complexion greatly. I had the normal side
effects of dried lips and skin. The side effects are NO big
deal!! Just carry around chapped stick and a small bottle
of moisturizer in your pocket. Afeter a year my acne came
back. Not as bad but it still bothered me. I am now
taking another dose of Accutane to hopefully clear my skin
up for good. Is this normal for people to need another
dose?


candidias: oil of oregano

Posted by Kristen on February 28, 1998 at 19:22:55:

I was diagnosed with candidias about six years ago after being treated with about 10 different antibiotics. I was placed on the antibiotics for impetigo and acne.
About four months ago my doctor prescribed oil of oregano. My acne completely cleared up. My doctor then told me to stop the oil of oregano, so I did. Now the acne/impetigo is starting up again. Is it safe to continue taking the oil of oregano or is there a limited amount of time one should be taking it? thanks.


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