Adrenal Glands historical posts July 1998

the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion

Posted by Sam on July 18, 1998 at 13:32:16:

Dear Walt and Everyone:
By the time I'm done posting at this BB we will have created a nice archive on adrenal issues.

For those of us to whom this applies...As you know skilled relaxation requires deep breathing as a focus and aid in creating deep states of meditation. Adrenal exhaustion creates the antithesis: especially difficulty in inhalation.(The Chinese call it weak kidney yang energy)The only way I have been able to successfully overcome this problem is through focused letting go. If my mind tries to conquer it, then all is lost. Its very difficult to do this regularly when the inhalation is an ongoing problem.

I always meditate first thing in the morning when, unfortunately my adrenals are their slowest. I start out with some chee-gung(is this the same as Qi Gong?) to help loosen things up and sometimes am successful and sometimes not. I'm guessing that I am less successful if I am clearing emotion or some other stressor is still impacting the adrenals. I have also been experimenting with(a derivative of NLP I think) holding my eyes in certain positions(eyes closed) which helps takes my mind off the process and helps clear my consciousness so that the breathing comes easier. Also, I meditate using a tape and seated. Lying down is no good, the best position for deepest breathing is standing but I don't know how to create alpha/theta in that position or if its possible. Still a novice at all this.

If you can help with other options I'd greatly appreciate it. At times I get so frustrated I want to scream. Not very spiritual, I know, but it really is challenging to patience.

By the way, how does one survive in our western culture who has adrenal exhaustion? YOu need to work to earn money- that process in itself is stressful. And you end up wondering if you're on a treadmill going no where because in order to heal adrenal function you need to rest.
Anyone up for monastery living or a house-sitting situation that will take you away from the grind for awhile? The solution sometimes looks so far off with adrenal health. Keeping a good attitude, probably for all people who visit this board with chronic illness, is the ultimate in trust and letting go.
Thanks,
Sam




Re: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion

Posted by Sam-again on July 18, 1998 at 19:26:13:

In Reply to: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion posted by Sam on July 18, 1998 at 13:32:16:

Dear Walt(Everyone, Please):
Visited the bookstore after the first message I posted. Would like a practical reference for learning Kundalini Yoga or some info on references for breathing exercises, postures, etc. useful for balancing, strengthening glands and helping free up inhaled breathing.
Thanks,
Sam


Re: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 19, 1998 at 08:46:12:

In Reply to: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion posted by Sam on July 18, 1998 at 13:32:16:

Dear Sam,

Although breathing techniques have been traditionally a common way to achieve hypothalamic relaxation, they are but one catagory of reaching this state. The Arica Foundation, alone, has documented more than 50 different ways to do this. Your "New Age" bookstore would have a number of Arican publications. The skilled relaxation workbook I have recommended (early editions) list many different ones.

ALSO, from your note, it sems that you are still stuck in the AMA definition of "stress". More than 90% of the "stress" that causes this unnatural alertness of the hypothalamus does not come from psychosocial causes. It comes from chemical stressors, physical stressors, electromagnetic smog stressors, nutritional stressors, etc. Only less than 10% of this effect comes from psychosocial causes and THEY are the most difficult to do anything about.

The answer, at least at first, is NOT to avoid the stressors but to increase the horsepower to deal with them (wellness) and reduce the overreaction to each one by increasing the distance between your "feet" and the edge of the cliff (skilled relaxation).

I hope this is making sense to you. It is a critical part of doing all this---understanding it.

The adrenal exhaustion comes from the hypothalamus teling the adrenals that the sabretooth tiger is right behind you ALL the time. Eventually, the gland wears out & starts to give up: "adrenal exhaustion".

Walt



Kundalini Yoga

Posted by Greg on July 19, 1998 at 09:07:10:

In Reply to: Re: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion posted by Sam-again on July 18, 1998 at 19:26:13:

I highly recommed the following books:

You will find both extremely accessible reading, and I am
certain will help you in your wellness quest.

-Greg



Re: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion

Posted by Sam on July 19, 1998 at 15:41:55:

In Reply to: Re: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion posted by Walt Stoll on July 19, 1998 at 08:46:12:

Dear Walt:
Please elaborate on one comment you made. Are you referring to diet and exercise when you say above: "...increase the horsepower to deal with them(stressors)-(wellness)" It may seem thick of me to ask but I don't want to assume anything.
Sam


Re: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 20, 1998 at 10:33:04:

In Reply to: Re: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion posted by Sam on July 19, 1998 at 15:41:55:

Hi, Sam.

I appreciate your leting me know that I have not been clear on this point. If you have the question so must many others. Wellness, as described by all healing paradigms in the world (except allopathy) is mostly produced by 3 major mechanisms: skilled relaxation, exercise & a whole foods diet. If you do one, and it is worth 3 points, 2 is worth 9 points & 3 worth 27 points. They magnify each other. They are not just additive.

Most chronic conditions will clear just by the careful practice of these 3 things. ALL will be much improved & easier to manage with symptom suppressing approaches.

Specific diets, herbs, acupuncture, etc., approaches (specificaly tailored to the genome of that person) will help even more but have to be evaluated (expensive) and we are still at the infancy of this science of "Molecular", "Integrative", Functional" Medicine. The first thing for anyone to do is to do the wellness. THEN, if any symptoms are still left, any further adjustment of that wellness will work better with the basic foundation established.

Is this answering your questions?

Walt



Re: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion

Posted by trish on July 21, 1998 at 13:14:11:

In Reply to: Re: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion posted by Walt Stoll on July 20, 1998 at 10:33:04:

Hi Walt and Sam,

I am wondering what if anything can be done about exhausted adrenals? I was recently given an "adrene forte" supplement to help me on my way. I don't have the bottle in front of me, but it does contain some raw adrenal and other organs/glands/parts of something (?!).

I understand the overactive hypothalamus (boy, do I ever - been a "cliff dweller" for some time!), but when I do achieve a better sense of wellness, will the adrenals recover, or not? I mean, could a person just use them all up? Just curious about the mechanics of it.

Thanks, as always and (now I can say it!)
namaste!
trish


Re: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 22, 1998 at 10:51:10:

In Reply to: Re: the challenge of practicing skilled relaxation and adrenal exhaustion posted by trish on July 21, 1998 at 13:14:11:

Hi, Trish.

So long as your adrenals are just shut down & not actually "dead", they will come back pretty rapidly once the load has been removed. In all the years I have known a little about all this, I have yet to see anyone with "dead" adrenals.

Walt



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