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Dr. Stoll and others: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work

Posted by Mom on October 10, 2002 at 14:26:18:

My daughter takes Rhinocort for her constant allergies/congestion. I have been noticing a lot of homeopathic items in the supermarkets and health food stores that you put under your tongue 2-3 times a day for allergies and hay fever. There are so many different brands and I have never met anyone who has taken them. Does anyone out there know anything about them - do they work, are they safe? Do they interact negatively with the steroid nose sprays? (Three different doctors have agreed with the Rhinocort solution - they say there are no side effects and she hasn't noticed any. But I'm worried because I've read that other nose sprays can cause delayed growth during the time frame that they're being used and though this one has different ingredients I'm not positive that it won't happen.)
Perhaps I should try these homeopathic items on myself first, though my allergies have gotten so mild over the years I may not notice a difference.
If anyone has had any experience with the above and any comments, I'd be grateful for the input.



Re: Dr. Stoll and others: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work

Posted by LT on October 11, 2002 at 03:19:56:

In Reply to: Dr. Stoll and others: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work posted by Mom on October 10, 2002 at 14:26:18:

I've used them and they helped, but it can vary from individual to individual because that's the way homeopathy works. However, the stuff that they put in those things can work on a wide variety of people.

Years ago I used flonase spray -- it gave me a fungal infection in my esophagus and gave me a chronic sore throat. In fact, once I stopped all my nose sprays and antihistamine pills, that chronic sore throat I had just disappeared. For years I though it was the allergies, but it was the meds.

You might also look into taking a a bioflavanoid product that contains a fair amount of quercitin.



Re: Dr. Stoll and others: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 11, 2002 at 07:50:23:

In Reply to: Dr. Stoll and others: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work posted by Mom on October 10, 2002 at 14:26:18:

Hi, Mom.

Homeopathy is an incredibly complex science and I think selling it OTC does the science a terrible disservice! It may work IF YOU ARE LUCKY. There are more than 35,000 remedies out there and to choose the correct one takes hours of trained interviewing.

The other thing is that they cannot hurt you so why not take your best guess and try it?

See the homeopathy archives.

Walt

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For LT

Posted by Mom on October 11, 2002 at 13:36:48:

In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll and others: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work posted by LT on October 11, 2002 at 03:19:56:

Thank you for your post. How did you find out that the fungal infection in your esophagus was due to the Flonase spray? Is there a test for that?
She has tried quercetin and it didn't work. The problem is her nose is SO drippy that it's an embarrassment in school and we want to use a product that we KNOW will work!



Re: Dr. Stoll & LT: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work

Posted by Mom on October 11, 2002 at 13:43:55:

In Reply to: Dr. Stoll and others: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work posted by Mom on October 10, 2002 at 14:26:18:

I talked to the allergiest today who assured me that the Rhinocort is the safest and most effective medicine for congestion. He was dismayed to hear that the ear nose and throat doctor recommended turbinectomy - he said THAT can cause real problems and the Rhinocort is the safest course to take. He said that I need to weigh how bad her drippy nose is (usually VERY, VERY bad, and embarrassing at school) with the almost non-existent chance of a 1 cm difference in height in the course of her lifetime. He said that it is as rare as aspirin causing kidney failure, though it does happen and is listed as a risk).
I'd like to try the homeopathic remedies, but can't stop the Rhinocort because it needs to stay in the system to work. I wish it were simpler, but this medicine really does work and she's not miserable at school anymore.



Re: Dr. Stoll & LT: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 12, 2002 at 08:29:10:

In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll & LT: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work posted by Mom on October 11, 2002 at 13:43:55:

Thanks, Mom.

Just so you KNOW that Rhinocort is CORTISONE with all of it's temporary benefits and long term dangers.

Walt



they found it...

Posted by LT on October 12, 2002 at 18:15:03:

In Reply to: For LT posted by Mom on October 11, 2002 at 13:36:48:

because I had lots of swallowing problems. In fact, they were quite surprised to find it and consulted with a couple of other doctors because they only see that kind of thing in AIDS patients (I don't have AIDS, I'm not HIV positive, etc.).

There is no way to definitely say that the flonase did it, but I know it did. When I use it, I can tell by the sore throat I get and general discomfort.

I actually control my allergies through allergy shots and a more general wellness program, but I know that every person is different.



forgot to say...

Posted by LT on October 12, 2002 at 18:16:10:

In Reply to: they found it... posted by LT on October 12, 2002 at 18:15:03:

that they found it when they scoped my throat and digestive tract -- not a pleasant experience.



I would opt for...

Posted by LisaT on October 12, 2002 at 18:17:48:

In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll & LT: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work posted by Mom on October 11, 2002 at 13:43:55:

allery shots rather than longterm steroid use, if you haven't already tried them and they are appropriate for her allergies.



Re: Dr. Stoll & LT: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work

Posted by Mom on October 13, 2002 at 20:01:05:

In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll & LT: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work posted by Walt Stoll on October 12, 2002 at 08:29:10:

I've never heard of any dangers of cortisone - what are they?



Re: I would opt for (allergy shots). Great idea - but do they work?

Posted by Mom on October 13, 2002 at 20:04:25:

In Reply to: I would opt for... posted by LisaT on October 12, 2002 at 18:17:48:

I agree with you on principal and we would definitely go for that if I knew it was appropriate. But the allergist actually wasn't too enamored with allergy shots. He said it's a five year commitment and indicated, I think, that they may not even work.

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Re: forgot to say...

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 14, 2002 at 09:11:50:

In Reply to: forgot to say... posted by LT on October 12, 2002 at 18:16:10:

Thanks, LT.

They found the structural cause of your symptoms. What have you learned about the WHY of the structural problems?

Without dealing with the why, you will have pretty poor results of any treatment of the structural condition and certainly not a permanent cure.

Walt

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Re: I would opt for...

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 14, 2002 at 09:13:54:

In Reply to: I would opt for... posted by LisaT on October 12, 2002 at 18:17:48:

Thanks, Lisa T.

I know I have posted the proven effectiveness of "allergy shots" in the allergy archives. A 5% benefit over 2 years, over placebo, is hardly a very effective approach.

Walt



Dr. Stoll & L ;Homeopathy-Does it work? ( Dangers of cortisone?)

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 14, 2002 at 10:11:15:

In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll & LT: Homeopathic allergy merchandise in markets - do they work posted by Mom on October 13, 2002 at 20:01:05:

Hi, Mom.

I thought EVERYONE knew the terrible dangers of long term cortisone (more than a few months). This has been a staple of medical knowledge for more than 50 years. Your reference librarian at your local library can fill your arms with books about it.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt

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for me, it has been....

Posted by LT on October 15, 2002 at 00:18:33:

In Reply to: Re: I would opt for... posted by Walt Stoll on October 14, 2002 at 09:13:54:

a lifesaver, regardless of the statistics. It's certainly worth a try before opting for steroids though, in my opinion.



Re: for me, it has been.... (Archive in allergy.

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 16, 2002 at 08:19:41:

In Reply to: for me, it has been.... posted by LT on October 15, 2002 at 00:18:33:

Thanks, LT.

I agree. For the 5% it is a very helpful bandaid--which does nothing about the cause. For the other 95% it simply gives the person something to do while the problem extends into other systems.

So long as people know the odds they have to choose. The problem is that they are not told the odds.

Walt

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