Bob McFerran historical posts February 1998

Re: other symtoms?

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 17, 1998 at 10:13:35:

Dear Shelly,

Your history reads like so many I have seen in which the conventional approach has been to treat each symptom as another disease. Of course, this has led to more & more "diseases" showing up over the years. OF COURSE, they are all connected. I am proud of your having discovered this on your own in spite of our monopoly continuing to try to point your attention anywhere BUT to that truth. Congratulations!

The one clue that I feel I need to discuss, here, is the one about the 14K turing black on your skin. This, in MY experience, only happens in people who are having clinical ecological reactions--which cause an intense acidic alteration in metabolism. Your experience last July (with the migraine & black skin) just serves to prove that to me.

Use the search feature & ask it to find everything Robert McFerran has written AND send him a message about that. He has gone far beyond MY expertise in the area of "biobalance".

Your adenomyosis is directly related to your immunological brinksmanship and the carpal tunnel is directly related to your total body bracing and relative intracellular deficiencies of magnesium & vitamin B6.

I think you will get enough conceptual bases from the book that we can more furitfully discuss this further here on the BB so others might benefit from our comunications.

Walt



Re: other symtoms?

Posted by Robert McFerran on February 17, 1998 at 12:21:46:

In Reply to: Re: other symtoms? posted by Walt Stoll on February 17, 1998 at 10:13:35:

Walt,

Unfortunately the only pH phenomenon that I've consistently seen that predicts metabolism -- and in turn what that person should be eating is BLOOD PLASMA pH.

Others have tried to use the pH of urine, sweat, saliva, etc. to determine what is going on. I have found them to be next to useless in giving an indication of what is wrong and what the individual should do next.

Dr. Philpott did show that saliva would be overly acidic if the individual was experiencing some sort of food reaction. Of course this doesn't mean that foods are the ONLY thing that could cause this type of reaction.

Bob


Re: other symtoms?

Posted by Shelly Russell on February 17, 1998 at 13:51:02:

In Reply to: Re: other symtoms? posted by Robert McFerran on February 17, 1998 at 12:21:46:

Robert,
Just had allergy testing done showed I have no reactions to common foodsor molds and no longer to cats and dogs. The basic testing. ( Just started having problems with exzema at age ) Any way could I be having a reaction to a food that would not show up on a skin test, release of histimine? I am not very educated on blood test results. Did a study for CFS last april and all my test were with in the "norm" except of course the iron and Absolute Eocinophilis which was in the high range 610 Cells/MCL
percent was 9.1. Was told by a frien whon ia a nurse that this is something that is tested when one is looking for allergies. Any comment. My skin turns black periodiacly but notice the migranes and blackness are more predominet 1 - 2 days before to 1 -2 days affter my period. Don't know if this means any thing. I used th search to find what books you have written and it came up zero. Do you have any books that you have published?

Thanks for your time,
Shelly



Re: other symtoms?

Posted by ROBERT MCFERRAN on February 18, 1998 at 12:17:37:

In Reply to: Re: other symtoms? posted by Shelly Russell on February 17, 1998 at 13:51:02:

Shelly,

I assume that you had skin testing for your food allergies? If it was skin prick it is 15% accurate, if it was intradermal it was 85% accurate. Why don't you do a 'do it yourself test' that is 100% accurate? Here's how.

THE ELIMINATION DIET

I’ve often talked with folks that were confident that foods didn’t have any impact on their symptoms. I ask is if they’ve ever run a good ‘elimination’ diet and a surprising number assure me that they have. Upon further questioning I always find that they have only eliminated a couple of foods, say milk or wheat or nightshade vegetables (tomatoes, eggplant, peppers, etc.). Even though milk and wheat are common food allergens and nightshade vegetables create problems for those possessing one specific metabolism, this should not be considered a true elimination diet.

Over 85% of people with chronic disease have food allergies. Most will find not one, but a handful of foods acting as the major culprits. This is the reason why eliminating just one or two random foods is all but useless. If you were allergic to a large number of tree pollens, springtime grasses and weeds the removal of only one of these airborne allergens would usually have little impact on your total allergy symptoms. If the allergen was added back into the mix you probably wouldn’t notice. The effect from this one allergen would be hidden or ‘masked’ by your already prominent symptoms to the other allergens. The same phenomenon occurs with foods.

How could we find whether the airborne allergen in the above example was a significant factor in triggering our allergic symptoms? The best way would be to place ourselves in a room with perfectly filtered air (in essence eliminating all airborne allergens) until our allergy symptoms abated. The specific allergen would then be re-introduced and any allergic reaction noted. In this way the impact of a single, specific allergen can be isolated and tested. What was previously thought to be a rather insignificant allergen would often deliver a surprisingly strong allergic response.

We can do the same thing with foods. Historically ‘spring water fasts’ have been employed. Patients would drink only spring water for the initial 4-5 days. This type of ‘fast’ would obviously eliminate all food allergens from the diet. It was maintained for 4-5 days to also allow physical elimination of all foods eaten prior to the start of the ‘fast’ from the digestive tract.

Spring water fasts have one major problem. A significant percentage of individuals cannot tolerate them and should not try them. Their metabolic demands make any kind of extended water fast dangerous.

Fortunately years of previous testing has provided a list of ‘safe’ foods that can be temporarily substituted for your usual diet. These foods are not completely hypo-allergenic but they do have a low allergenic potential. In other words they are rarely found to induce a reaction. The foods include cod, trout, mackerel, pears, parsnips, turnips, rutabaga, sweet potatoes, yams, celery, zucchini, carrots and peaches. Any foods routinely eaten more than twice a week should be removed from the list. All the foods must be fresh and in their ‘whole’ or natural form. No cans or other packaging allowed.

Spring water or sparkling water are the only acceptable liquids. The only allowed condiment is sea or mineral salt. Steaming is an excellent method of preparing foods during your elimination diet.

Prior to starting the diet you’ll need to purchase a bottle of magnesium citrate (found in the laxative section) and alka-seltzer ‘gold’ (it’s found only in the gold colored box). All drugs should be continued. Smoking should be ceased when initiating the diet. You will not be able to eat at restaurants during the diet.

If you work Thursday evening will be the best time to begin. Wait two hours after dinner and pour one-half of the contents of the bottle of magnesium citrate into a tall glass. Add an equal amount of water and some ice and drink slowly. Repeat the same procedure with the remainder of the magnesium citrate just prior to retiring.

Friday morning’s breakfast and all subsequent meals for the next six days should consist exclusively of th


Re: other symtoms?

Posted by Shellly Russell on February 18, 1998 at 23:48:44:

In Reply to: Re: other symtoms? posted by ROBERT MCFERRAN on February 18, 1998 at 12:17:37:

Robert,

Thanks for the great info. I am starting the elimination Sunday. I'll let you know how it goes. Don't like fish of any kind is it okay just to eat the fruits and veggiies you listed? I know that leaves little protien. Should I limit my fruits to a certian amount a day?

I went to Barnes and Noble today and could not find the book by Dr John Mansfield THE MIGRAINE REVOLUTION. Had them check for it but they said showed no listing for it. They did find a title by Dr John Mansfield the MIGRAINE AND THE ALLERGY CONNECTION is this the same book? I ordered it any way

Thanks Again,
Shelly



Re: other symtoms?

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 19, 1998 at 06:09:31:

In Reply to: Re: other symtoms? posted by ROBERT MCFERRAN on February 18, 1998 at 12:17:37:

Dear Bob,

This is the best descriptionn I have seen for this extremely accurate and inexpensive (in money) way to learn this stuff.

I am hoping that you will give your permission to put it permanently on the home page so I can refer appropriate people to it.

Have I told you lately how much you help people here on the BB? If not, I am telling you again.

Namaste` Walt



Re: other symtoms?

Posted by Robert McFerran on February 19, 1998 at 11:17:58:

In Reply to: Re: other symtoms? posted by Walt Stoll on February 19, 1998 at 06:09:31:

Thanks Walt!

I'd be honored if you'd append any of this to your site. By the way -- it's been a pretty incredible site for some time and it's just getting better!

The elimination diet is a snippet from the protocol section of my book that is taking so much time to complete. I've never had someone experience NOTHING when trying it. They always experience something that is unexpected that compels them to look deeper. It did for me.

Bob


Re: other symtoms?

Posted by Robert McFerran on February 19, 1998 at 11:29:29:

In Reply to: Re: other symtoms? posted by Shellly Russell on February 18, 1998 at 23:48:44:

Shelly,

You've ordered the right book. I think the title that I gave you was from the European edition.

You can eat any of or as much of the foods on the elimination diet list as often as you want. You don't have to eat the fish but I'll warn you, if you have the wrong metabolic type you'll find yourself getting very hungry without the fish.

What do you eat now?

Also, please answer this question on how caffeine makes you feel by selecting a,b, or c.

a) Coffee (or other caffeinated drinks) really make me feel great! So much so I don't know why everyone wouldn't drink it.

b) I usually drink a cup or two of coffee (or other caffeinated drink) but if I have too much I get gittery and don't feel good. I can't drink it too close to bed time either because it will keep me awake.

c) I really never started drinking coffee (or other caffeinated drinks) on a regular basis. I do know that if I have too much (even though it's earlier in the day) that it will keep me up at night.

Bob


Re: other symtoms?

Posted by Shelly Russell on February 19, 1998 at 22:13:41:

In Reply to: Re: other symtoms? posted by Robert McFerran on February 19, 1998 at 11:29:29:

Robert,
What do I eat? Chicken, beef, little pork, all kinds of veggies and fruit. About the only thing I don't like is fish of any kind and mushrooms. My diet has lots of vegies in it sometime I don't even want the meat I fix, I'll just eat a varitey of veggies. I don't eat much dairy or eggs just in cooking. Just don't desire it. I feel I eat to much processed food , like cheese, ham, bread or fast food. I know I eat to much bread or starchy veggies in ratio to the other foods I eat. Don't know much about metabolic type, where can I get more info on this?
I do drink coffee most morings. 1 - 2 cups. I am not for sure if I can answer the second question honestly to the choices given. I can drink a cup of coffee after diner and go right to sleep or drink a cup at 10:00 pm and go right to sleep. I do not norice any jitters or highs or feeling bad. I know after a first thing in the morning arobic work out the thought of coffee is not appleaing at all. If I do not drink coffee I do not notice any withdrawls such as headaches or gitters. Sometimes I just get up and smell it and go on. I do know that if I do drink coffee I have no appitiete and can go till 2 or 3 in the pm before I eat. (no wonder my motabolisiam is shot)
I find I drink coffee for the warmth since I am also cold.

Sorry I souldn't answer the question just by a, b, or c,.

Just got a call from the book store and Dr. Mansfield's book is out of print, Just is case you want to continure to suggest it. There is a company that does an international book search for out of print books. I am also checking the Library.

Thanks Shelly


Re: other symtoms?

Posted by Robert McFerran on February 19, 1998 at 22:57:41:

In Reply to: Re: other symtoms? posted by Shelly Russell on February 19, 1998 at 22:13:41:

Shelly,

I think I'm getting a good idea of the foods that you should test as you segue out of the elimination diet. Thanks.

Do you know your total cholesterol, HDL and LDL cholesterol figures? Also your uric acid. I'll bet your doc would give you this info. It doesn't have to be recent.

I've had good luck getting some of Mansfield's other books, even though they were out of print. The problem is I can't guarantee that you'll be that lucky -- and I know that they charge you even if they don't find the book.

I know that his publisher is planning a reprint soon.

Bob


Re: other symtoms?

Posted by Shelly Russell on February 20, 1998 at 00:24:52:

In Reply to: Re: other symtoms? posted by Robert McFerran on February 19, 1998 at 22:57:41:

Robert,
Have been on acutante twice so had blood work done monthly adn The Red Cross sends me my level after I donate blood. It has always been around 145-165.
Did a study for CFS last April the LDH,Total was 150- Uric acid was 2.8 MG/DL- Cholesterol, Total was 168. Would LDL be listed as such couldn't find it on these test results?

Barnes And Noble gave me the name of Buccaneer Book Search 516-734-5724 in NY who does this service Free? I am calling them in the am . In the mean time I am on my way to the Library.

Thanks for the help and the concern to better health,
Shelly


Re: other symtoms?

Posted by Robert McFerran on February 20, 1998 at 11:58:03:

In Reply to: Re: other symtoms? posted by Shelly Russell on February 20, 1998 at 00:24:52:

Shelly,

Thanks for the bloodwork info.

I don't think any of these places that look for out of print books do it for free. They wouldn't make any money off of their most difficult searches! This specific book isn't critical -- it does make a very strong case that C-RS (candida related syndrome) is a central issue with migraine. With C-RS in place there is an excellent chance that you will also have some significant food sensitivities.

I'll lay low for now and see how you do on your elimination diet.

Bob


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