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Posted by Robert McFerran on October 27, 1998 at 20:45:15:

Walt,

With all that I've learned I felt completely helpless with what has happened during the last 8 hours.

Yesterday my sister noticed that her 3 1/2 year old was acting unusually lethargic. This kid was routinely playing hard for several hours every day until about 3 days ago.

He had no fever but fortuately my sister decided to take him this morning to the doctor for a check up. He hadn't been to the doctor since late May when he was immunized for chicken pox. His blood sugar was over 900 and he was immediately admitted into the local Childrens Hospital. 8 hours later he was stable and out of danger yet the verdict from the endocrinologist is that the damage is already done and that his blood sugar and ketone levels suggest that his pancreatic ability to produce insulin has already been 90% irreversibly compromised.

Of course I am heartbroken by all of this and helpless to boot during this 'acute' phase. Of course once he gets out of the hospital I'll be checking for the sources of auto-immune activation that I'm familiar with. Is there anything that needs to be done while he's receiving care in the hospital that the good conventional allopathic physician would be unaware of?

Thanks,

Bob




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Whew--I've Been There

Posted by Mary Jackson on October 27, 1998 at 21:30:46:

In Reply to: Pediatric diabetes posted by Robert McFerran on October 27, 1998 at 20:45:15:

Bob,

I've been through this, but my child was three months old when I started giving her shots. Use the search feature on the JDF site's Ask the Diabetes Team site for any questions (will try to post site later) or post your own questions. They have been good to answer all the questions I have submitted except one I asked about a radical diet that was having success with diabetics. Yesterday I wrote to the National Institute of Health's Office of Alternative Medicine at the University of California at Davis to ask them about candida immunology. I would really be curious to know how this child would score on a candida immune complexes test, what his pH levels are like, other flora, etc. It's really a shocking thing to go through, I know.
Tell your sister she can write to me if she would like. Mary J.


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JDF Site

Posted by Mary Jackson on October 27, 1998 at 22:44:35:

In Reply to: Whew--I've Been There posted by Mary Jackson on October 27, 1998 at 21:30:46:

Hi Bob,

The site I mentioned is http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/dteam/d_0d_000.htm
At the bottom of the page it says "Jump to a new section" and lists other pages of information like stories about other diabetic children, kids at school, etc. Mary J.



Re: Whew--I've Been There

Posted by Robert McFerran on October 28, 1998 at 13:54:41:

In Reply to: Whew--I've Been There posted by Mary Jackson on October 27, 1998 at 21:30:46:

Thanks Mary.

I feel fortunate to know that I already know a mom who is in the know and an expert in this area.

Bob


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Re: Whew--I've Been There

Posted by Mary Jackson on October 28, 1998 at 14:25:31:

In Reply to: Re: Whew--I've Been There posted by Robert McFerran on October 28, 1998 at 13:54:41:

Hi Bob,

I can't say that I'm an expert with the standard diabetes care. I've never subscribed to Diabetes Forecast with the ADA, etc. but I am a testimony that moms of diabetics can survive, get used to the needles, etc. I have read the JDF site faithfully for a year and a half. I have put juvenile diabetes into the context of the things we worry about like stress, toxicity, glandular weakness, dietary imbalances, etc. I barked up the wrong tree with the UCDavis people. They are studying vitamin C with asthma and wheat grass with hay fever among other things. I think they should throw candida in with both of those too. RA and juvenile diabetes are HLA compatability associated aren't they? Mary J.


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Re: Pediatric diabetes

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 28, 1998 at 17:02:52:

In Reply to: Pediatric diabetes posted by Robert McFerran on October 27, 1998 at 20:45:15:

Dear Bob.

It has been known for more than 5 years that most juvenile diabetics have their problem because of a specific cows' milk peptide that mimics one of the peptides in the juvenile pancreas (beta cell). To have this happen, there has to be LGS.

However, if there are still 10% of the beta cells left, that is enough to live on IF he doesn't kill any more. The first thing is to TOTALLY eliminate anything with cows' milk in it!

The second thing is to look for candida-related syndrome since it is rare for little tykes this young to have this problem unless candida is aggravating the process.

ALL conventional docs should be aware ot this since the first article about it was in all of the major medical journals. Since it had something to do with diet, however, most physicians have ignored it while their little patients keep going to hell.

Walt



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Researching Milk and Yeast on the JDF Site

Posted by Mary Jackson on October 28, 1998 at 22:55:21:

In Reply to: Re: Pediatric diabetes posted by Walt Stoll on October 28, 1998 at 17:02:52:

I re-researched the milk problem and "yeast" (there is nothing on the JDF site searching under "candida"). From what I could gather they say that the beta-caso-morphine fragment of A1 beta casein found in cows like Friesians can cause problems in mice. The most info. was available under "milk peptide". They say they don't believe that systemic candidiasis would cause diabetes, but it seems to me that chronic yeast overgrowth would impinge upon the resources
available for pancreatic restoration after a viral attack or toxic damage. At this point I am not sure whether Susannah (my diabetic daughter) would have systemic candida or just overgrowth in the intestines (I would just guess the latter). There is much I still don't know. Mary J.


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Re: Pediatric diabetes

Posted by Robert McFerran on October 28, 1998 at 23:28:29:

In Reply to: Re: Pediatric diabetes posted by Walt Stoll on October 28, 1998 at 17:02:52:

Walt,

Thanks for the advise. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.

Our goal will be exactly as you stated -- preserve what hasn't yet been damaged and enhance the functionality as much as possible.

I'll let you know how he does.

Bob



Re: Researching Milk and Yeast on the JDF Site

Posted by Robert McFerran on October 28, 1998 at 23:34:32:

In Reply to: Researching Milk and Yeast on the JDF Site posted by Mary Jackson on October 28, 1998 at 22:55:21:

Mary,

Thanks for the info.

It is 'convenient' that American allopaths have decided that a virus is the one and only environmental trigger that could initiate the cascade that leads to pancreatic damage.

I think that your analysis is correct. I have found that there is no ONE trigger for rheumatoid disease. It could be bacterial (including mycoplasmas), viral and/or fungal.

My sister's little boy was in such EXHUBERANT health and has alway been fed what is essentially a whole foods diet since birth that I thought that he would be the last to succumb to leaky gut and/or C-RS. Well, I'm going to find out.........

Bob



Re: Whew--I've Been There

Posted by Robert McFerran on October 29, 1998 at 00:52:47:

In Reply to: Re: Whew--I've Been There posted by Mary Jackson on October 28, 1998 at 14:25:31:

Mary,

There used to be a VERY strong relationship between arthritis and HLA typing. That correlation is diminishing as more and more folks succumb to leaky gut and the altered immunity guaranteed to follow.

Bob



Re: Researching Milk and Yeast on the JDF Site

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 29, 1998 at 13:12:24:

In Reply to: Researching Milk and Yeast on the JDF Site posted by Mary Jackson on October 28, 1998 at 22:55:21:

Hi, Mary.

The only reason I mentioned the candida is that it would further damage the lining of the gut & cause more leakage of the peptides. Also, as you well know, by the candida mycelia growing into the lining, the immune system becomes even more concentrated at that area and the leakage would more likely cause stuff like JDF.

Those who flatly say that there can be no relationship between candida & JDF were denying even the possibility of candida-related syndrome's existence a year or 2 ago. What can they know about it?

I am not saying that candida is the primary cause (although it might be). I am saying that it is the LGS and poorly digested caseine that is the most known cause. Candida just makes it more likely to cause this condition.

Walt




My heart broke when I read your post, so I checked with...

Posted by Sharon on October 30, 1998 at 14:49:52:

In Reply to: Pediatric diabetes posted by Robert McFerran on October 27, 1998 at 20:45:15:

I checked with my health practioner. He is a chiropractor who specializes in kinesiology. He stays current by attending conferences/seminars in a variety of healing modalities. He said that there are homeopathics that would help (he gets his from a company in Germany who specializes in it) and theraputic touch. He has cured me of candida and giardia without any conventional drugs. He really seems to have a holistic approach that supports what the body needs to and can do. Just another angle to consider.

Warmest regards,

Sharon


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Re: My heart broke when I read your post, so I checked with...

Posted by Robert McFerran on October 30, 1998 at 18:49:10:

In Reply to: My heart broke when I read your post, so I checked with... posted by Sharon on October 30, 1998 at 14:49:52:

Sharon,

Thanks for your post.

My initial feelings of helplessness were due to the suggestion by the endocrinologists that nothing could be done to help this situation.

Dr. Stoll was able to change my attitude of hopelessness into one of "it's time to get to work finding the causes of and resolving this kid's leaky gut" with ONE sentence.

We have eliminated anything to do with milk as well as 5 other foods that Dr. D'Adamo's research has found to react with his B blood type. I'm having trouble determining his metabolic type but should have that pinned down in a few days. He is starting on nystatin powder tonight (thanks Joe) along with supplemental C and B-6, some pancreatic enzymes, a bit of amino acids initially plus a little trace minerals.

I've re-read most of Dr. Philpott's BRAIN ALLERGIES where he shows again and again how reactions to foods can elicit sharp increases or decreases in blood sugar levels. I'm quite confident that if the source of his diabetic pathogenesis is anything other than viral that we can stop this process dead in it's tracks.

It is much like my own personal experience. I can't reverse the horrible damage that has happened to most of my joints but I'm convinced that we can stop the progression without any of the conventional immune suppressing drugs.

Bob



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