Epstein Barr Virus historical posts February 1998

Re: epstien barr

Posted by Jackie on February 02, 1998 at 11:36:57:

I have one more question that is quite important. Four weeks before I came down with E.B., I got breast implants! I am quite concerned because a Dr. has said It could be the result of the implants! I have all of the symptoms of E.B. as well as symptoms of adverse reaction to silicone. Although my implants are saline, the are in a silicone shell. If I can get better I will have them removed in an instant. Please give me your thoughts. Thank you, Jackie



Re: CFS

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 03, 1998 at 11:22:51:

Hi, Margaret.

I first must say what I have said so many times before: Chronic conditions like this will never be resolved by something you TAKE but by something you DO.

That is not to say that I may someday be proven wrong for something--and I look forward to that day.

I have never heard of this product but would be interested in hearing from anyone who has taken it successfully (5+ years after having taken it). Many such producet produce temporary benefits. I am talking about RESOLVING the problem.

Walt



Re: epstien barr

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 03, 1998 at 11:28:41:

In Reply to: Re: epstien barr posted by Jackie on February 02, 1998 at 11:36:57:

Dear Jackie,

It is well established that these implants can be an additional burden for the immune system and therefore could be the "straw that broke the camel's back" and pushed you over the edge to get this problem. However, were I you, I would look more to why you were right at the edge of your cliff BEFORE getting the implants.

Your best bet to understand this concept in YOUR case would be to read a copy of my new book (link below). THEN, if you still have questions, write again.

Removing the implants MAY be necessary. However, there are certainly other things a lot easier to do that would remove a lot more burden. Besides, once your system is "broken" removing the implants alone would probably not be enough to unbreak it. If you know the actual story about the "camel" you will understand what I am saying.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by barbara on February 04, 1998 at 03:19:23:

Please don't tell me to get your book. That seems to be your only advice.
Is it the Chemo treatment I had 4 1/2 yrs ago. I had epstein barr and mono and now believe I have ebv again. Awaiting blood results. All I want to do is sleep.
be nice, I may not be a M.D.
I am something better--- alive---
Barbara


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Jim on February 04, 1998 at 08:02:07:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by barbara on February 04, 1998 at 03:19:23:

Barbara,

I assume from your note that you have read at least some of the posts on this bulletin board, otherwise you wouldn't know that Dr. Stoll often recommends his book. Have you used the search engine to look up EBV? You could gather a lot of information that way.

Dr. Stoll's advice sounds simple, and really, the principles are, but you need knowledge. His book is a good place to start. There is a lot of information in it, and it takes awhile to assimilate and understand it. Unfortuantely, there is just no way he can give you or anyone else all that information here on the board. He answers dozens of posts each day personally (for free).

I can only sympathize with your feelings of exhaustion and frustration. You might as well drop your irritation with MD's, Dr. Stoll, or anybody else, because you are the only one who can get yourself out of this one. Learning what you need to know is how you can do it. Dr. Stoll is a fantastic resource, even if you do not like what he has to say sometimes.

Jim





Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Anna Nelson on February 05, 1998 at 04:26:32:

Help!!!! My Dr. told me 6 months ago I have the epstein barr virus -- I was told to get lots of rest. And yes when I have time to rest - I do feel better. It seems to be getting worse as time goes on though.. Any help you could give me - I am willing to do anything to feel better again.


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Jim on February 05, 1998 at 08:42:59:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Anna Nelson on February 05, 1998 at 04:26:32:

Anna,

Anything? Even use the search engine on this board and look up EBV? Even go to Dr. Stoll's home page and look at the articles to see his point of view? Maybe even get a copy of his book to learn how to strengthen your immune system?

That is the easy part. The hard part is making the life changes necessary to carry out plan. Are you willing to change your diet and take up the regular practice of skilled relaxation, and then, later, when you are able, to begin regular exercise?

Dr. Stoll gets dozens of inquiries about EBV each month, that's why you need to check the search engine and see what he has said before. When you have done your homework and begin carrying out the recommendations you find, then you will be able to ask specific questions that he will gladly answer for you. He spends a lot of time and effort on doing this, and more so if it is obvious that one has "done their homework."

It'll be worth your time. I have had excellent results, and so has my wife.

Jim




Re: Epstein Barr Virus

Posted by Kim on February 05, 1998 at 14:02:16:

Hello. I am a twenty three year old. I have suffered with this virus for five years. I take vitamins, excersise, and eat right. It is in my blood cells. I get very sick often. Extremely tired if I don't sleep right. I have a horrible time with insomnia. I did the upper and downers to sleep and be awake but, I am not looking for that. Everything I take is through a doctor and I still am getting worse. Please any one who has any sugeestions please write. Thank you. I fear an early death if I can't find something to help. Please!


colon cleansing

Posted by J.Ferguson on February 05, 1998 at 16:07:04:

As I wait for your book, I continue my health battle of 4 years. I believe my problem is in the colon and seven days ago started a product containing psyllium husk, guar gum, rhubarb rot powder, licorce root powder, echinacea powder, black walnut powder, fennel seed powder, burdock root powder, parsley powder, and papaya powder. I have released rope-like tar type substances which smell like plastic and petro chemicals. I've not been feeling too well either, like I'm poisoned. I'm amazed by this and don't know whether to keep going or quit. I've read stories about these substances in the colon and believe they shouldn't be there. What are your thoughts? I hope I haven't offended anyone. I've been really sick and am looking for answers. I'd also like your opinion on ridding toxins through the use of coffee enemas. If either of these regimens is appropriate, how many, how long? In short, I obviously have an immune dysfunction, have battled back from a long fight after IV antibiotics/steroids, sinus surgery, parasites, etc. Don't know where else to turn or what to do. Feeling pretty bad and can't seem to win the war and just keep having battle after battle. Been diagnosed with EBV, CMV, have done alot with diet, Candida tx, environmental, etc. Might try your health coaching. I'm tired and lost and very depressed. These strange things coming out of my colon however...I don't know if I should be concerned or happy??? Please advise. Thanks so much.


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by B. Frasca on February 05, 1998 at 20:46:10:

I've been diagnosed with ebv + inactive a few years
ago. Had Mononucleosis around 20 years ago...
(thought to be the same virus as ebv/cfs)
From what I've been told it affects the white blood
cells.. When I has Mono years back, I felt overwhelming
exhaustion,sever sore throat and spleen/lymph node
tenderness. EPV affects the lymphatic system, I think;
the main organ there being the spleen. The lymphatic
system contols the immune system, and if compromised
will cause other random symptoms... Alot of Dr's won't
even check for ebv because there is nothing they
can do to cure it (viral infections ,at this time
cannot be cured;symptoms however can be controlled)
This is true especially if you belong to an HMO where
most DR's administer thallium stress tests after a patient
has a first heart attack!!
EPV is not life threatening; another reason why conventional medicine (especially HMO's) 'ignores"
this virus...Pretty much the only thing to control the
symptoms is to adhere to a wellness program; or
subscribe to the theories of herbal medicine and
vitamine therapy with respect to agents which boost the
immune system....




epstein barr virus

Posted by Cassi on February 05, 1998 at 22:05:27:

I was diagnosed with epstein barr virus about 5 years ago and was very sick for almost 3 months. At first, after getting well, I noticed I got really terrible cold-sores. Gradually, they got less terrible. That was the only lasting effect I ever noticed. Will I ever notice any other lasting effects of this virus? I was told it will never leave my system, but I have been quite well for several years.


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by BARBARA on February 06, 1998 at 04:04:45:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Jim on February 04, 1998 at 08:02:07:

JIM-----
SORRY TO SOUND OFF BUT SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO VENT. I HAVE GASTRIC NON-HOGKINS LYPHOMA. I HAVE HAD 3 MAJOR OPERTIONS ALONG WITH CHEMO. WELL NEEDLESS TO SAY I HAVE NEVER BEEN THE SAME. I JUST CAN'T SEEM TO DO ANYTHING BUT COMPLAIN. ( EVEN IF IT'S TO A MESSAGE BOARD )
DO YOU WORK FOR THE AUTHOR? OR ARE YOU ONE OF HIS READERS WHO HAS SUFFERED FROM EBV?
ANYWAY THANKS FOR AN HONEST ANSWER AND I WILL DO SOMEMORE
SEARCHING ON THIS VIRUS.


BARBARA



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Jim on February 06, 1998 at 09:11:22:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by BARBARA on February 06, 1998 at 04:04:45:

Barbara,

No, I don't work for Walt. He pays lousy these days :). Actually, I have never met him, and as I am fond of saying, I don't get a toaster for my testimonials. Yes, I've had EBV in my youth, but it has never been a factor in my life. For that I am grateful. The virus is present, so I understand, but just not active. I am recovering from a long list of ugly symptoms related to Leaky Gut Syndrome, and I have accomplished this by following the advice of Dr. Stoll. I believe that the regimen is effective in dealing with any virus because it strengthens the immune system. Beyond that, if one has the willpower to carry it out, it will increase one’s quality of life immeasurably. I am not a medical professional. I base my opinion on my personal experience and on what I have heard others say on this board.

My heart goes out to you. A colleague and a friend have recently told me of family members with lymphoma, though I don’t know if it was the non-hodgekins type. In both instances it seems that neither patient wanted to take a look at what they could do for themselves. They wanted a doctor to "do" something to them, or they had some lame considerations about changing their life styles which, under the circumstances, sounded like such crazy considerations to me. (i.e. "I just can't not eat sugar!!!")

I don’t know if anything you find on the board will help, or if Dr. Stoll’s adivce can help. But if it was me, and I’m ashamed to try to put myself in your shoes, and I apologize, but I hope I would be learning what things promote wellness in the body, and I’d be doing them with a passion. Dr. Stoll's message sounds deceptively simple at first, but don't be fooled. There is great wisdom there, and it is not easy in the beginning.

Again, I apologize. I haven’t "walked a mile in your shoes," so I only wish you well.

God bless you.

Jim



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 06, 1998 at 10:41:33:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by barbara on February 04, 1998 at 03:19:23:

Dear Barbara,

I make NO money from my book.

I wrote it so that people like you would have alternatives that didn't take much money or effort to learn about.

I am not about to type out the entire book for each person like you who thinks they are being ripped off again.

I am trying to respond, honestly to an average of 60-80 requests per day, The least you could do is do some homework yourself.

Walt





ebstien barr virus

Posted by KELLY on February 06, 1998 at 12:01:23:

Dr.Stroll
My boyfriend of 5 years has EBV .He takes very good care of himself and so do I, But he does have times when bouts of anexity that bother him tremendsly . With him making his health #1 priorty ,every single day .I don"t understand why this happens .





Contagion of EBV

Posted by Kathy Schjelderup on February 06, 1998 at 16:54:54:

Am I contagiou to those who don't have Epstein Barr? How do I protect my husband & children from contracting it from me?


Re: CFS

Posted by Margaret Pringle on February 06, 1998 at 23:08:20:

Dear Dr. Stoll, Things are still going pretty well thanks to all your advice. I was wondering if you have to eliminate all fruit with the whole foods diet. Also what do you think of the yeast problem aand how it might relate to CFS. It is very difficult to find a Doctor in N.Z. to discuss thes issues with. Lastly,my health shop is selling a new product called Enada which is apparently helping people with CFS.Have you heard of it and do you think it would be worthwhile?Thanks again. Margaret.



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by BARBARA on February 07, 1998 at 04:10:59:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Walt Stoll on February 06, 1998 at 10:41:33:

INSTEAD OF HELPING--------- YOU SEEM TO HAVE MORE TIME
FOR SENDING INSULTS TO ME. SPEND THAT SAME TIME
ON SOMEONE ELSE OR AT LEAST GIVE ME ADVICE. THIS IS THE
THIRD DAY I HAVE TRIED THIS BOARD. I DO ADMIT TO
BE UPSET AND FEED UP. BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START
AND YOUR ADVICE IS GET OFF MY ASS AND DO MY OWN HOMEWORK.
WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR JOB ON HERE? SALARY OR NOT I DON'T CARE
YOUR TOOK THE JOB.



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 07, 1998 at 07:06:55:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Anna Nelson on February 05, 1998 at 04:26:32:

Dear Anna,

First, use the search feature provided with this BB & read everything you can find about EBV, Chronic Epstein Barr Virus and the like.

Second, if you are ready to get into understanding WHY, so you can start doing something about it, get a copy of my book (link below) since that is the best advice I can give you without typing out the whole book for you here on the BB.

THEN, if you still have questions, write again.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Jim on February 07, 1998 at 07:09:03:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by BARBARA on February 07, 1998 at 04:10:59:

Dear Barbara,

You do have spunk! But, Barbara, didn't you read my last post to you? I gave you a suggestion of what you could do. Again, go to the "SEARCH" function, click on it, and you can enter EBV, Epstein Barr Virus, or lymphoma. You will get a list of postings you can read. Read the Home Page.

Let’s put a little perspective on things. Your initial post was hostile in tone, now wasn’t it? Being sick shouldn’t give you license to be rude. I know you agree, because that’s what you wrote to me in you next post. You started out by basically attacking Dr. Stoll. Imagine if you walked into a Doctor’s office, sat down and said, "Don’t tell me to take your advice, you give everyone advice!" It should come as no surprise to you that you were answered in kind. But re-read his post to you. You think he was insulting you, but he was telling you the truth. If Walt is anything, he is honest. You might not always like what he has to say, but it will be the truth, and it will be from his heart. I think you are probably the same way. You really do need to lose the attitude. Here’s a question for you: Do you want someone to be "nice nice" with you, or someone to tell you the truth? Don’t say both, which?

Can you imagine the number of arrogant nut cakes who come on to this board to vent their petty hostilities and then leave?!!? I know you aren’t one of them, because you’re back even though you are pissed off, but it would be easy to mistake you for one. Actually, that wasn’t very charitable. I’m sure most of the ones I’m referring to are just desperate folks who are brainwashed into thinking that healing is something that someone is going to do TO them or FOR them, and they don’t have the patience or ability to listen or understand. I have seen scores of posts on this board about EBV alone, all starting out, "I have EBV. What is it? What can I do?" It is the same for other diseases. What else can be done but refer people to the search engine to bring themselves up to speed, or refer them to the book.

Dr. Stoll’s expertise is alternative healing methods. What he espouses is valuable whether you’re sick or not. You may need a combination of conventional and alternative methods to help with your particular situation. Everyone’s different, but the principals are the same for all. You have a lot to learn, as we all do. Dr. Stoll is a great resource, but you are the one who has to do the work.(I know, you’ve heard that before)

Why, by the way, why do you resist buying a copy of his book? Ten bucks!?! How much have you put in the pockets of other doctors? Surely you see he isn’t making money with a book of that price. How do you expect him to give you all that information any other way?

I hope this is helpful. Barbara, I don’t know you from Eve, but I have nothing but compassion for you. I just know your life has been living hell at times with what you’ve been through. I pray you find peace and healing.

Jim



Re: Epstein Barr Virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 07, 1998 at 08:15:42:

In Reply to: Re: Epstein Barr Virus posted by Kim on February 05, 1998 at 14:02:16:

Dear Kim,

BY FAR the most important single thing you need to do is learn an effective skilled relaxation technique and practice it at least 20 minutes twice a day (never within 2 hours of retiring). The fact that you do not mention it tells me that you have not been told this. WHY NOT?

There is a book that was written about you that you would find very illuminating. Once you become the expert in this condition, you will know a lot better who to believe. In the long run, this is the only thing that will get you out of this mess--becoming the expert. "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier is a good start in this direction. THEN, if you want to know HOW to do it, the best suggestion I have is to read a copy of my book (link below).

THEN, if you still have questions, write again. As you get well, please take the time to share your experiences with the BB participants. This epidemic situation is totally unnecessary & others deserve to know that.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Brooke Marie on February 07, 1998 at 10:19:50:

This letter is intended for Walt.

Hi there. I have been dealing with what I just discovered to be EBV for the passed 10 years. Every time a bout of this virus came on, I was led from doctor to doctor, from question mark to question mark and from poor to bankrupt.

I have been an actress for my entire life and have had successes and ups and downs but never have I been able to pusue my love to the fullest due to my immune system.

I am now twenty four and after much research and experimentation in the fields of natural health, I have decided to stop everything that is contributing to my discomfort and to listen to my body and learn the lessons it is trying to teach me.

I do not have alot of people around me who understand what I am going through, nor do I have alot of money (or any to be exact)to be throwing in twenty directions witgh hope of response.

I am now living at home and jobless, but determined to learn and strengthen my mind, body and soul.

Do have anything to offer?

Thanks for your time.......Brooke Marie Procida


Re: epstien barr

Posted by Jackie on February 07, 1998 at 16:10:40:

In Reply to: Re: epstien barr posted by Walt Stoll on February 03, 1998 at 11:28:41:

You are right as usual. At 23 years old I was under extreme stress for someone my age. In a six month span, major life changes were made, family deaths, etc., then the surgery. My physician feels the same as you. I have read your book (in one sitting, couldn't put it down) and am ready to work on getting better, or well enough to go to the surgery again if I must have them removed! You are such a help! There should be something all of these people can do in return for your kindness!!!



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Kathy Schjelderup on February 07, 1998 at 18:45:02:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Jim on February 07, 1998 at 07:09:03:

Thank you, Jim, for putting things into perspective. I imaging Dr. Stoll has to have a lot of patience answering the same questions a thousand times over.

I pray you have good health. God bless you.


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Anna Nelson on February 08, 1998 at 03:52:25:

Walt,

I was not impressed by the answer you gave me, to the question I ask. Seems like to me - this site is all about selling your book. I might of ordered one if you had been a little nicer and tryed to explain something to me, instead of the blunt remark you gave. Thanks but no thanks.


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by highlander on February 08, 1998 at 06:20:53:


Research rates spermicides on battling
diseases.


Los Angeles Times 1989 Sep
19;108(290):V-1,2

Parachine A
891782
UCLA sponsored research to determine the
effectiveness of spermicides against the AIDS virus and
other sexually transmitted diseases. The most efficient
spermicides and condoms were to be given to research
subjects in an attempt to evaluate the actual efficacy of
these items as an AIDS prevention method. The Federal
government withdrew financial support for the project,
reasoning that the test could be too dangerous for those
involved. However, results obtained while the research
was in progress indicate that oxtoxynol-9, which is used
in Ortho-Gynol Contraceptive Jelly and benzalkonium
chloride, used only in Europe, were superior to



The UCLA study
found that octoxynol-9 is the only ingredient capable of
killing the Epstein Barr virus. These results, which
heretofore had not been publicly released, are highly
controversial.




Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 08, 1998 at 08:30:55:

In Reply to: ebstien barr virus posted by KELLY on February 06, 1998 at 12:01:23:

Dear Kelly,

The single most important thing for anyone to do to prevent AND to resolve chronic EBV is the regular practice of skilled relaxation at least 20 minutes twice a day (never within 2 hours of retiring).

What has he been doing in that area?

Use the search feature we provide for this BB & read everything you can find about EBV, Chronic Epstein Barr Virus and the like.

THEN, if you still have questions, write again.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 08, 1998 at 08:57:53:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Kathy Schjelderup on February 06, 1998 at 13:14:36:

Dear Kathy,

Use the search feature for this BB and read everything you can find about EBV, Chronic Epstein Barr Virus and the like, to see the wide comceptual answers to your question.

THEN, if you still have questions, write again.

The bottom line is: any reasonably healthy person cannot "get" this very weak virus. It is contagious to anyone whose immunity is not up to snuff.

Walt



Re: CFS

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 08, 1998 at 09:40:08:

In Reply to: Re: CFS posted by Margaret Pringle on February 06, 1998 at 23:08:20:

Dear Margaret,

For those with C-RS, elimination of fruit in the beginning (6 months) is absolutely necessary to avoid being treated forever.

You can find a competent physician in your area by contacting Functional Medicine Update at (253) 851-3943 since their (800) 843-9660 number does not cross international borders. Their address is Functional Medicine Update, Box #1729, Gig Harbor, Washington 98335.

Ask them for names of physicians in your area who have subscribed to their service for at least a year. Someone on that list is very likely to be able to help you with this. The longer they have subscribed the better.

I have no information about Enada. What does it contain?
There are a lot of products like this around the world since we all would like to have something to take to resolve problems. I have seen none that give more than temporary relief since they do nothing about the basic susceptibilities described in my book--which you have.

I would ask anyone who has had "success" with Enada what they think after they have been off it for a year.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 08, 1998 at 09:58:16:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by BARBARA on February 07, 1998 at 04:10:59:

Dear Barbara,

This is a free board supported only by my time & the time & money of my son, Bill, who provides the considerable computer expertise needed to offer an information service like this.

We do it out of love for our fellow man. However, there is a limit to anyone's time available to do this. I have told you how to DO your own homework. I am trying to help an average of 60-80 other requests a day. Until you are willing to learn what you need to know, you will continue to be a frustrated and angry person who wants someone to "cure" her.

Good luck!

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Jim on February 08, 1998 at 11:53:08:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Anna Nelson on February 08, 1998 at 03:47:31:

Anna,

I suppose you are gone in a huff, so a reply is useless. But, what the heck, I’m into confronting negativity.

Actually, I thought Dr. Stoll gave you a great answer. I'm curious if you bothered to follow his first suggestion (searching the board) (which I took the time to recommend to you as well), before you summarily dismissed the second, (which was to buy his book). I doubt it, because you would have noticed how often your question has been asked on the board, and then you would have realized one of the reasons why he refers people to search the board and to buy his book. He can't keep saying the same thing over and over in great detail.

You would also have noticed that you are among an eye-catching minority who take his recommendations as some sort of personal insult, or who expect him to solve their problem in one post, even before they have shown an inclination to put forth some effort on their own, and who then become indignant and leave terse, self-satisfying notes of departure condemning the book as some money-making fraud.

If you had carried out the first suggestion you might then have concluded that there is more than one good reason why Dr. Stoll first asks people to do a little research, and that none of those reasons has anything to do with you personally.

God speed on your new search.

Jim



EBV

Posted by Kathy on February 08, 1998 at 15:01:09:

Dear Dr. Stoll,

Since you ask for us to tell our stories so that they might help others, I thought I'd send in my experiences so far with Epstein-Barr. I was diagnosed with having the Epstein-Barr Virus, and have been experiencing the following symptoms for two-three months.

Symptoms
--------
Headaches & other aches & pains
Joint soreness
Unexplained Irritability/Depression
Mood Swings
Not able to sleep well
Tiredness even after sleep
Extreme Fatigue
other related symptoms

When I first started having these symptoms, I didn't know what caused them. So I stepped up my exercise program right away. However, I only felt better DURING the exercise. Afterwards, rather than gaining energy as usual, I felt drained, weak and fatigued. So I asked my Dr. about it, and he ran some tests, finding EBV, and elevated blood levels related to fatigue. The doctor also found my thyroid levels were off, so he increased the thyroid dosage.

However, exercise and an increase in thyroid medication weren't enough. I was still fatigued, and still had most of the other symptoms. So I talked to a friend who has had EBV for years and seems to have it mostly under control. So I started taking a vitamin supplement:

Usana
-----
Minerals
"Mega" Antioxidants
Grape Seed Extract ("Proflavinols")

While I didn't know if these supplements would help, I felt it was worth a try, since my friend benefitted so much from them. Besides taking my friend's advise, I figured I should try finding supplements which are supposed to raise your energy level. So I also started taking the following, with breakfast & lunch:
ginseng
garlic
St. John's Wort

The supplementation clearly gave me a great leap in my energy level, and after only a few days. But still I was fatigued at times, couldn't get enough sleep, and when I did, didn't benefit from the sleep. (I was careful not to take the energy supplements close to bedtime.)

As soon as I had found out I had EBV, I went on line. I realized that my doctor did not know much about the treatment of EBV, which I thought would be typical of the medical community in general. I'm a mother of four, and have seen the medical community deny things until there's finally some research to back up what mothers have known all along --such as- the majority of colic occurrence in infants is linked to a food allergy, most often dairy products. -Or- a child's disposition is greatly improved when they are told "no." (Which doctors refer to as "setting limits.") While there are many examples from my own experiences, I figured that EBV was probably yet another such example.

I was pretty disappointed by what I found on the internet. It was either the same medical advise my doctor gave me (rest a lot, eat, & exercise right), or it addressed EBV at the microbiology level, or it covered drug-related research.

If it wasn't from the medical establishment, what I found on line was only "talk" by uniformed people. (Why is there so much more on Chronique Fatigue than on EBV?)

Then I found your bulletin board. I was surprised at the amount of discussion in this one place. I noticed your comments about diet & exercise not being enough to improve your immune system (which was certainly true in my case). So I returned to doing transcendental meditation (TM) twice a day for 20 minutes.

Since I have been a student of transcendental meditation (although I don't ascribe to their religious beliefs-I am Christian) and self hypnosis, I knew of the benefit of the state of the mind on the state of the body. So during these TM sessions, I also included suggestions for improved energy, health, and for better rest.

The very first day of trying this, I slept through the night, and felt MUCH better! I know I'm not out of the woods yet, though - as EBV, I'm told, can plague you for a lifetime - so the first thing tomorrow, I'm ordering your book to get the best possible advise on the su


Epstein Barr

Posted by Steven on February 08, 1998 at 15:16:22:

Dear Dr. Stoll,

I have Epstein Bar Virus for two years now. I feel like myself again. I have some questions that I hope you could help me with. My girlfriend was just diagnosed with Mononucleosis which they told her it is caused by the Epstein Barr Virus. When I was diagnosed with Epstein Barr, I didn't have mono, I didn't have the symptoms of it like enlarge spleen or liver. Is mono the cause of epstein barr and if not, is it possible I could get mono being I have epstien barr. I like to know is epstien barr and mono are two separate viruses? Also, having epstien bar, can you get sick more often. I've been getting bronchitis more now than I did in the past. I would apprecitate any information you could give me. Thank you..


Re: Epstein Barr Virus

Posted by Cathie on February 08, 1998 at 17:56:10:

There is a simple blood test which would tell you if you suffer from the Epstein Barr virus. Hasn't your doctor given this test to you? If not, why? You will NOT know if you have this virus unless you test for it. Why guess?



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 09, 1998 at 09:57:18:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Jim on February 07, 1998 at 07:09:03:

Dear Jim,

As always, you say what needs to be said. I know I am abrasive at times. However, those (like you) who have tried what I have to offer know that I do know of what I speak (although I would be among the first to say that I still had a lot to learn) AND that I try to say what has to be said in whatever way that I think will get the job done.

In the hierarchy of health, anger is a lot healthier than apathy, sadness, apathy or despair. In fact, it is right beside happy. Raising people to anger can give them the energy to go further. I am not here to make people like me. If the tool that gets people to move toward wellness is anger at me, it is well worth it to me. I can only tell the truth as I see it as a fallible human being.

Thanks! Walt





Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 09, 1998 at 10:24:21:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Brooke Marie on February 07, 1998 at 10:19:50:

Dear Brooke,

Your note is a perfect example of what I mean when I say that the $ expense of chronic illness is BY FAR the least cost to that person.

Someone named Brooke ordered a copy of my book this weekend. I hope that was you since that would be a good way to start down the path to wellness. I hope, as you get well, you will continue to share your experiences with the BB since you can save others from wandering in the dark as you have for so many years.

By far the most important thing for you right now is knowledge. I will try to point you in the most productive direction with the least expense in time, energy & $.

Go to the library, while you are waiting for my book to arrive, and ask them to find you a copy of "Psychoimmunity & the Healing Process" edited by Jason Serinus and published in 1986 by Celestial Arts. Although it is more than 10 years old, and SO MUCH has been learned about how you can improve your immunity in that 10 years, it still is something you need to know.

The most important thing you can start actually doing right now, which probably is the most important thing for you to do in the long run, is to learn an effective skilled relaxation technique & practice it at least 20 minutes twice a day (never within 2 hours of retiring). The protocol, and resources, for this is carefully described in my book.

Once you have this under your belt, if you still have energy AND want to understand your condition IN DEPTH, read "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier. Every library has copies (or at least can find them easily). However, since this is a book that was written about you, you will eventually want your own copy. You will be still re-reading it 10 years from now as you continue on your journey of wellness.

Walt



Re: Epstein Barr Virus

Posted by Jacqueline on February 07, 1998 at 13:24:31:

How would a freind find a support goup for the Epstein Barr
Virus? Please e-mail back. This is very important. Thank you!



Re: Epstein Barr Virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 09, 1998 at 10:34:04:

In Reply to: Re: Epstein Barr Virus posted by Jacqueline on February 07, 1998 at 13:24:31:

Deare Jacqueline,

You already have one of the best resources for resolving this condition right here at this BB. Use the search feature provided & read everything you can find about EBV, Chronic Epstein Barr Virus and the like.

I have found most support groups to mainly support the person suffering the condition rather than what can be done so the individual no longer fits into such a group.

I am not saying that support groups do not have their place. If the individual has accepted that they will have EBV forever, and there is nothing that can be done about it, it is a good place to spend every third Thursday night.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 09, 1998 at 11:18:51:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Anna Nelson on February 08, 1998 at 03:47:31:

Anna,

When you are sick of being sick, You are welcome to come back. However, I am not going to spoon feed you even then. If you had even gone to the bother to use the search feature (as I suggested), to see what had already been discussed on the BB, you would never have said what you are saying. It seems you must want me to type out my entire book for you on the BB. SORRY. There are lots of people who are ready to help themselves that need my time more.

Walt



Re: Epstien Barr Virus

Posted by Melissa Thummel on February 09, 1998 at 20:55:20:

I have ebv and was diagnosed three years ago. I take the antidepresent called Zoloft. It does wonders. If I don't take it, I can really notice a difference and so can my family.



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Mary on February 10, 1998 at 11:54:34:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Walt Stoll on February 08, 1998 at 08:57:53:

I have Chronic EBV. I also have fragile capillaries and they rupture with little trama to the skin. They resemble a blood blister. I wondered since no doctor can diagnos anthing other than EBV. Can this cause it.




Re: EBV

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 10, 1998 at 12:08:08:

In Reply to: EBV posted by Kathy on February 08, 1998 at 15:01:09:

Thanks, Kathy.

Your testimonial will help others to start helping themselves.

The EBV is unlikely to be causing any of your symptoms. That blood reading is but another of the tips of the iceberg that your symptoms represent. Once you can digest what I have offered in my book, I think you will begin to understand that. If you want a more in depth understanding of what I said above, one of the resources in the back of my book is "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier.

Your restarting the skilled relaxation is a big step in the right direction. It will take 6-12 months for you to get the full benefit from that. Be sure to do it at least 20 minutes twice a day and never less than 2 hours befor retiring. That way you will get the long term effects you need to get ahead of the game.

Please share your journey with the rest of the BB participants. This epidemic (fad) condition is totally unnecessary and your experiences will help others to not be helpless & hopeless.

Namaste` Walt



Re: Epstein Barr

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 10, 1998 at 12:26:36:

In Reply to: Epstein Barr posted by Steven on February 08, 1998 at 15:16:22:

Dear Steven,

What you need most is tincture of knowledge. To start you in a fruitful direction I would suggest you use the search feature for this BB and read everything you can find about EBV, Epstein Barr Virus and the like. THEN. if you have more questions, write again.

Mono is an individual's response to the epstein barr virus at that time and situation of their lives. You know, once one has been infected with any virus (the body was overcome by the virus & the person felt like they were coming down with something) that virus is in every cell of that person for the rest of their lives. This is normal. ONLY the normal resistance of the person keeps this virus from overcoming the person again. If someone, for example, "comes down" with the EBV, it means that they had to have had "mono" earlier in their life and overcame it. THEN, the immunity was reduced (for whatever reason) below the level needed to keep the virus quiescent in the cell & it breaks out & causes a different set of symptoms called Chronic EBV.

You would get an idea of what I am talking about by going to this link: Immunity & Stress.

Once you have the above information under your belt, if you still have questions, write again.

Your bronchitis experience is probably the next message your bodymind is sending you since you seemed to have gotten over the last message (EBV) without doing anything about your causes.

Walt



Re: epstien bar virus

Posted by Rick on February 10, 1998 at 12:57:10:

Walt stoll just wants to sell his !!!!! book



Re: epstien bar virus

Posted by Jim on February 10, 1998 at 21:41:38:

In Reply to: Re: epstien bar virus posted by Rick on February 10, 1998 at 12:57:10:

Rick just wants to push Walt Stoll's buttons.


Epstein Barr - 13 year old son

Posted by Lisa on February 10, 1998 at 16:45:13:

My son B.J. has been very fatiqued for almost 2 months. After 3 visits to his doctor, I (not the doctor) requested a mono test because B.J. had 2 previous bouts with strep throat. In early December, B.J. had a terrible stomach virus, and has not been the same since. His "mono" test was negative, and the doctor sent us to a pediatric gastro doctor, at my request, because B.J. had terrible loss of appetite, nausea bouts, and fatique. The gastro MD put him on prevacid and periactin. His eating and appetite have improved somewhat, but the fatique bouts are constant. At 13, he was extremely active, an honor roll student and all around good kid ( except his susceptability to any bug aroung). He has only been to approximately 10 hours of school since before Christmas break. He is so frustrated (along with a worried mother). His energy comes in spurts. His EBNA results were IGMseems as though I am grasping at straws for diagnosis. We are switching doctors ASAP and would like any info you can provide me. Is he a typical EBV case? Should I continue to let him stay home if he swears he is not up to a school day? How much longer can the symptoms of fatique continue? And finally, is there a way to determine if and when he definitely got it, so I can judge how long is too long? I am desperate for info. and would appreciate your help. Thank you in advance for your prompt response.




Re: Epstein Barr - 13 year old son

Posted by Lisa on February 10, 1998 at 16:48:09:

In Reply to: Epstein Barr - 13 year old son posted by Lisa on February 10, 1998 at 16:45:13:

In reading my message I have a few changes...sorry! B.J.'s test result was IGM


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Mariann on February 10, 1998 at 20:23:18:


I have just been diagnosed with Epstein Barr Virus on February 5th. To my disbelief, my doctor couldn't answer any of my questions, nor did he recommend someone who could.
I have read several medical books over the past few days and intend on getting a second opinion. But, in the meantime, I
would appreciate any advise from someone who is also fighting this terrible virus. I have all the symptoms, such
as fatigue, sore throat, fever, and swollen glands. I am
still shocked that I do not feel any better and its already
been 2 weeks into my illness. I understand that stress and
lack of rest may have triggered my virus. I work in a
stressful environment full-time, attend college 2 nights a week, and manage to work-out at the gym 3-4 times a week.
But I felt very good physically and enjoyed doing all this. I am also seeing a dietician. It is hard to believe that this has already changed my life drastically. I just purchased a bottle of Vitamin C, Echinasia, and a Multi-Vitamin in hopes to help boost my immune system. However, I've been told not to exercise due to risks involving rupturing my spleen. Is this true? I am still
waiting for information to come from the foundation, but any
personal information that someone can offer would be greatly
appreciated. I am only 24 years old, and terrified about
how I feel and worried about the outcome of this.


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Mari on February 10, 1998 at 20:35:55:

Please seek a second opinion. My best friend was mis-
diagnosed; she now has Hodgkins disease. Her blood work
was irregular, but her physician failed to recognize it.
In the meantime the lump in her chest continued to grow. It
wasn't until her second specialist did a biopsy and found
cancer. She starting having complications in July 1996,
her blood work was irregular in October 1996, but in
March 1997 she was diagnosed and already in stage 2. She
has since undergone chemotherapy and radiation and is living
a normal life. Please do not waste any more time and get
a second opinion immediately.


Re: EBV

Posted by Kathy on February 11, 1998 at 00:16:47:

In Reply to: Re: EBV posted by Walt Stoll on February 10, 1998 at 12:08:08:

Thank you, Dr. Stoll.

The relaxation technique I learned is practiced in just the increments you suggest. I've been doing it religiously twice a day for 20 minutes. I've considered getting Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer, but I've been trained in mind control & healing quite a bit, and would rather start with your book. I'll go on from there.

Plus I have the ultimate healer on my side, as I mix in prayer with my meditation, and God answers my prayer every time. This time, He gave me your bulletin board and book as the answer. I have ordered your book, and hope to pass it along to many frined.

I know I've got months at least before I overcome these symptoms, but I've always been a very healthy person, and a fighter. I'm athletic, and not willing to give up my activeness, my activities/sports, or my health.

I will certainly share my experiences in healing, as I improve.


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Anthony on February 11, 1998 at 00:52:16:

Todays blood screen results showed I have low blood sugar and a 3.75 EBV IgG.It took years to find someone who could point me in a direction of understanding.Over the past several years,I have had a recurring itchy rash with a deadend nerve sensation following.I also manifested an itchy mole that turned into a striated turnip like tumor.No cancer in it`s analisis.These conditions have brought down my confidence, although they subside.Untill now my doctors would tell me that my health was fine and perscribe colosteroids.Could my excema be,as well as the tumor be linked to the virus?My doc. has me on a nutritional regiment to render the epstein-barr.Also it has been suggested that toxic levels in my system could give me the weeping skin.Any comments or suggestions?I have been on the net researching all night since todays test results.


Re: Epstien Barr Virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 11, 1998 at 14:49:08:

In Reply to: Re: Epstien Barr Virus posted by Melissa Thummel on February 09, 1998 at 20:55:20:

Dear Melissa,

I hope while the Zoloft is doing its job, you use the time to learn WHY you have the condition and get rid of the causes. None of us think that this condition is a Zoloft deficiency (grin).

Walt



Very Concerned

Posted by John on February 11, 1998 at 19:46:48:

I am a 27 year old active male who tries to hit the gym 5x a week. Last year, in late January started feeling chills and couln't get enough blankets on me. A week later, I had developed a fever of 103 and alot of crap developing in my throat. After going to the doctor's, he suspected mono. After drawing some blood, he said I tested positive for Mono. Was he testing for the EBV? Here is my REAL concern though. Two weeks ago I noticed a small rash on my neck. I didn't have alot of pain but it was uncomfortable. After going to the doctors office, she diagnosed it as either herpes simplex or shingles. The test came back for simplex and it was negative. She know sais it is shingles. This has scared me to death because I think I may have HIV or something. Is it abnormal for someone to develop shingles at 27? I cannot even be sure that is what it was because it appeared on such a small part of my neck. Has anyone else experienced a rash as a result of EBV a year later? Thank a million for your help! John


Re: EBV

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 12, 1998 at 14:37:48:

In Reply to: Re: EBV posted by Kathy on February 11, 1998 at 00:16:47:

Dear Kathy,

Prayer is one of the most effective ways to switch brain rhythms. Those who want the most effective prayer need to learn that the alpha/theta rhythm produces the most effective prayer results. Biofeedback is still the only way to be sure that prayer is reaching the effective level.

I really appreciate your bringing it up since I have tended to neglect mentioning prayer to avoid upsetting people any more than I have to.

The same rules as govern skilled relaxation practice also govern the effectiveness of prayer. At least 20 minutes twice a day (never within 2 hours of retiring). That is not to say that it cannot be DONE within 2 hours of retiring--only that one cannot count that time as one of those needed to reverse any chronic condition.

Walt



Epstein Barr Generic Response

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 12, 1998 at 14:44:46:

In Reply to: Epstein Barr - 13 year old son posted by Lisa on February 10, 1998 at 16:45:13:

BB Participants,

As you can see, there are a lot of notes questioning EBV today (and usually). If those questioning would first use the search feature & read everything that has been said so many times right here on the BB, they could save themselves AND ME a lot of time typing & get their questions answered quicker.

Just type in EBV & read everything about that. Then type in Chronic Epstein Barr Virus and read everything about that. Then, if you still have questions, write again.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 13, 1998 at 10:19:37:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Anthony on February 11, 1998 at 00:52:16:

Dear Anthony,

The virus is NOT causing this. ALL of your conditions are caused by the same mechanisms. The EBV is just one of the tips of the iceberg.

I have 3 suggestions for you since what you most need is how to see that this is all connected at a deeper level than you presently understand. THEN, if you still have questions, write again.

1. Use the search feature provided with this BB & read everything you can find about EBV, Chronic Epstein Barr Virus, etc.

2. Get a copy of my book (link below). This will help you gain an entry to understanding #3 AND what to do about it.

3. THEN, if you want to understand this at a deeper level, read one of the books referenced in my book: "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier (it was written about you).

Walt





Re: Very Concerned

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 13, 1998 at 11:37:40:

In Reply to: Very Concerned posted by John on February 11, 1998 at 19:46:48:

Dear John,

I respectfully suggest your present doc is lost in the wilderness. It is impossible for herpes simplex to be confused with herpes zoster (the other name for shingles). Perhaps you would do better going to the medical library & looking up the color atlas for dermatological conditions.

It sounds to me that you are being pestered with a lot of tips of the iceberg and all your conventional doc can think of is tips. You need to start looking at the iceberg. Once that is dealt with, the tips will all disappear.

Of course, you know by now that mononucleosis is caused by the Epstein Barr Virus. Perhaps a good place for you to start would be to use the search feature for this BB & read everything you can find about EBV, Chronic Epstein Barr Virus and the like.

The resources for you to see the iceberg are mentioned there. THEN, if you have more questions, write again.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Melva on February 13, 1998 at 16:42:26:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Walt Stoll on February 12, 1998 at 14:10:02:

Prior to being tested for EBV a blood test found I was running a constant low-grade temperature . . . then I was tested and diagnosed with EBV. Do you have any suggestions on getting rid of my temperature?

Thank you. Melva


Re: Epstein Barr Virus

Posted by Mary on February 13, 1998 at 21:23:56:


Dear Walt,

My 16 yr old son was just diagnoised with epstien barr virus in his blood test. He had mono two years ago and ever since he has been tired no matter how much he sleeps. Five days ago he developed a bad rash that was everywhere, even on the botttom of his feet. He was put on Presidone 40 mgs. He said to me " Mom how long will I have to live like this?" We are being sent to a infectious dr nest wek. He also has a sore thorat. Do you know of any good drs. in the Fredericksburg, VA area? I am scared. Please ansewer. I will read your book.
Thank you ,
mary


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 14, 1998 at 11:05:19:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Melva on February 13, 1998 at 16:42:26:

Dear Melva,

All medical textbooks and research tells us that a low grade fever greatly enhances the immune system's ability to push the person toward wellness. Each degree of elevated temp increases the body's ability to protect itself by about 10%. Only when the body temperature gets above about 104 degrees does this advantage begin to falter. SO, people should not take things to reduce fever until the temp gets to about 104 degrees.

NOW, WHAT PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY WOULD EVER HELP GET THIS INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC?

SO, even though your "low grade" fever can help with a diagnosis that something is going on, I would do nothing to "get rid of it".

Is this making sense?

Walt



Re: Epstien Barr Virus

Posted by Jim on February 14, 1998 at 18:54:09:

Laura,

I love the description you give of yourself! : )

Dr. Stoll has answered your particular question many times. Having read the board daily for a long time, I can tell you that he is going to ask you to educate yourself a little from this very board. You can go to the Home Page and check it out. Click on "Ask Dr. Stoll" and scroll down the page reading all the EBV posts, and go to the "Search" function and click on it. Enter "EBV" or "Epstein Barr" and you will be given many many posts to explore, and your question will be answered. You will find that you do not have to suffer with this.

Then if you have specific questions, you can ask them.

Jim





Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Sharon Fanucce on February 14, 1998 at 19:53:01:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Walt Stoll on February 14, 1998 at 11:05:19:

My son, 15, was just diagnosed. He has been laid up 4 weeks. He now has vomiting and diaherra. He's also had sore throat, ear infections and headaches, severe. Doctor has said he might be hospitalized. He is so tired all the time. I don't really understand how it works or how long will be be like this. He is being tutored at home now.

Thank you
Sharon



Re: Echinecea with auto-immune disease

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 15, 1998 at 09:45:23:

In Reply to: Re: Echinecea with auto-immune disease posted by Bonna on February 13, 1998 at 09:07:13:

Dear Bonna,

I am sorry for MY ignorance about Herbology. Each of the following healing paradigms are a lifetime study and NO ONE can be an expert in them all:

Herbology
Homeopathy
Chiropractic
Naturopathy
Acupuncture
Ayervedic Medicine
Traditional Chinese Medicine
----there are more----

The best I could do was to learn enough about each one to KNOW that they were valid and to have SOME ability to judge the expertise of any professional practicing them in my office. It was MY job to get the appropriate patient to the best paradigm (or combination of paradigms) and to coordinate the entire picture.

I am NOT a good enough herbologist to advise anyone about herbs. I hope what I am expert in will be enough to help. Hopefully, our link to a herbologist's website will soon be a reality. Then, I can refer questions like this to someone who knows & all you would have to do is point & click to get to it.

Walt




Re: Epstein Barr Virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 15, 1998 at 10:26:21:

In Reply to: Re: Epstein Barr Virus posted by Mary on February 13, 1998 at 21:23:56:

Dear Mary,

While waiting for my book, use the search feature for this BB & read everything you can find about EBV, Chronic Epstein Barr Virus and the like.

Your son is old enough to do this for himself. This would be a good way to lead him into helping himself. Once you (and he) know what needs to be done, he is the one who will have to do it. Now is the time to learn if he has suffered enough that he is willing to put in the effort that will be needed.

My guess is that your visit to the infectionus disease specialist will be a waste of time, effort & money. Conventional medicine only has suppressive treatments that cause more long term damage than the disease itself. THEN the patient (who now has what they had in the beginning PLUS the complications of the symptomatic treatment) is told that they just have to live with it.

Conventional medicine has NO solution to what he is going through. I should know, I practiced conventional medicine for 30+ years.

Walt



Re: Epstein Barr Virus

Posted by Mary (mother of Zeke) on February 15, 1998 at 10:41:50:

In Reply to: Re: Epstein Barr Virus posted by Walt Stoll on February 15, 1998 at 10:26:21:


Dear Walt,

Many thank yous for the wise words of wisdom. Zeke and I will do as you say and hopefully Zeke will be able to overcome this virus.

Thank you for all the people that you have helped through your time and effort thru this web page.

Mary


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by barbara on February 16, 1998 at 01:38:38:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by BARBARA on February 07, 1998 at 04:10:59:

HI JIM:

YOU WANT THE TRUTH--------------:) BOTH LOL
YOU MISUNDERSTOOD ME AS WELL..........I AM SORRY TO HAVE TO VENT LIKE THAT BUT IN NO WAY AM I SORRY FOR MY WORDS OR THOUGHTS. I QUESS WE JUST CLASHED. I DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT HIS ATTIDUED ANYMORE THEN HE DOES MINE.
SORRY I HAVENT GOTTEN BACK TO YOU SOONER, BUT MY DAUGHTER BROKEN HER ARM WED. DURING SOFTBALL PRACTICE. SHE IS COMING ALONG FINE. STILL HAD TO DO HER SPELLING TEST ON FRIDAY.I AM NOT ALL THAT KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT COMPUTERS. SO I WILL BE TRYING THE SEARCH.. THANKS AGAIN. DROP ME A LINE.


Re: PERFECT Whole Food Diet

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 16, 1998 at 11:45:31:

In Reply to: Re: PERFECT Whole Food Diet posted by Nancy on February 14, 1998 at 15:38:50:

Dear Nancy,

The only thing I know of where it is ESSENTIAL to be perfect with elimination of refined carbohydrates is when one is eliminating C-RS. In THAT case, even a trace of caffeine triggers the same Krebs Cycle reaction that keeps the problem going: withdrawal, cravings and continued candida growth.

Caffeine releases sugar from the liver & fools your body into thinking that you have just taken in pure sugar.

So far as I know, Green Tea never had caffeine in it so it did not need to be decaffeinated. The health food store where you get your green tea can tell you if it truly IS free of caffeine. For example, even I know that Black Tea is high in caffeine.

REMEMBER, ALL teas are herbal teas. Lipton's too! It is just that certain teas have more caffeine than others. Lipton has selected the herb they have because it has a pretty good slug of caffeine in it. THEN, they have used advertizing to convince people that this herb tastes better than all the others.

Every one has different taste buds. One person will love the taste of certain herbs and another person will hate those same ones AND VICE VERSA. There are many, many, different teas. The idea is to find a few that YOU like. You will find some! Your taste buds cannot possibly hate them all--they are too different. Don't let Lipton tell you what tastes best to you. Once your problem is solved, decaffeinated (and eventually regular coffee AND tea) will be OK for you.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus.... welcome back, Barbara

Posted by Jim on February 16, 1998 at 11:48:23:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by barbara on February 16, 1998 at 01:38:38:

Barbara,

I'm glad you're back. You are a lady of spunk! Now you ned to be a lady of knowledge.

You don't have to be good at computers. Here's what you do. Click at the top or bottom of the page where is says "Ask Dr. Stoll." It will take you to the beginning of the board. There you will find the word "SEARCH" (probably in blue or purple color). Click on that. When you get to the next page, click in the rectangle after the words "Text to search for." Then type in "epstein barr," or "EBV," and you will be given a whole bunch of postings to read.

As you read you will get a picture of Dr. Stoll's point of view. It is confusing at first, and very unlike the medical treatment we are used to. The treatment is what we do for ourselves. It is difficult because it means we have to change the ways we live. If you are tired enough of sickness, I think you have enough determination to do it.

I'm sure you and Dr. Stoll will forgive each other for being less than perfect and get on with the business at hand. He is a wonderful source of information if you get serious about getting on the path.

My best,

Jim




Re: EBV

Posted by Kathy on February 16, 1998 at 21:44:12:

In Reply to: EBV posted by Kathy on February 08, 1998 at 15:01:09:

Thank you, Dr. Stoll for your encouragement regarding prayer. The meditation/prayer/hypnosis combination is working well for me, but as you say, I always do it 20 minutes twice a day. And, as you have mentioned, never less than 2 or even 3 hours before bedtime. In the past I've had trouble falling asleep if I didn't follow that guideline, so I'm never tempted to meditate close to bedtime.

I have read most of your book now and find it fascinating. I realize after reading it why my exercising had become ineffective. I had become stressed and overworked by a volunteer project I'd been doing for several months (I'm a stay-at-home mom). So had fallen to exercising aerobically for several hours at a time, but only once or twice a week, such as hiking, cross country skiing or snowshoeing - fitting it in when I could rather than having a regular program, as I had in the past. The other times I exercised were erratic and might be working on a particular muscle group, such as abs. I think the reason I had always been so healthy before had to have been because of my devotion to aerobic-type exercise. When I let myself become erratic, my immune system had weakened. Thus, I contracted EBV.

This, even though I've been off sugar for months now. I'd really like a recommendation on which is the best resource to quickly and reliably change my diet to whole foods. You list several in your book. Is there one you could recommend to me as a quick and easy resource for getting started?

Thank you.


Re: EBV

Posted by Jim on February 16, 1998 at 22:36:46:

In Reply to: Re: EBV posted by Kathy on February 16, 1998 at 21:44:12:

Dear Kathy,

There is a great resource called The Healing Power of Whole Foods by Beth Loiselle. On the Home Page there is an article called How to Be Healthy. In there you can find how to get it. Eating a perfectly whole food diet is not easy at first, and the book is not what I would call quick. It is thorough, though, and easy to use, since it is organized well. You will need a lot of the information that is in it.

Good luck to you.

Jim


Re: epstein barr virus.... welcome back, Barbara

Posted by barbara on February 17, 1998 at 00:46:28:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus.... welcome back, Barbara posted by Jim on February 16, 1998 at 11:48:23:

my problem is no one is telling me anything, so today I asked for my levels or range. They told me 640 and that was very high but nothing else.
already been doing some research. thanks for your support and hang in there for me. sometimes you need a friend you watch over you.

my best--------barbara



Re: EBV

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 17, 1998 at 11:32:27:

In Reply to: Re: EBV posted by Kathy on February 16, 1998 at 21:44:12:

Dear Kathy,

Thanks for the note. It is EXACTLY this kind of information that others getting started need to hear. See Jim's note.

Namaste` Walt



Re: EBV

Posted by Kathy on February 17, 1998 at 19:20:00:

In Reply to: Re: EBV posted by Walt Stoll on February 17, 1998 at 11:30:57:

Thank you Jim, and Dr. Stoll,

I'm immediately going to get a copy of the book you recommend:
The Healing Power of Whole Foods by Beth Loiselle

I've tried whole food diets before, and they seemed to work for a time, but then I end up with a lot of food reactions, such as cramping and diarrhea. I assume after reading most of Dr. Stoll's book, that I just need to follow his advice, and I'll see a reduction in these symptoms.

Also, although I "avoided" refined sugar and flour, it wasn't strictly off the diet, and honey or some other sweetener went into every loaf of 100% WHOLE WHEAT bread I made (or bought!). I'll cut that sugar out completely once I start this diet.

The other thing that I got discouraged about was the preparation time. However, since now it's not just a "diet" - but it will mean a big difference in my health - I'm willing to give it a try.

I'm sure you understand, Dr. Stoll, that it's hard to believe some of these things until you try them yourself. However, I have faith that YOU believe it to be true, so I'm willing to expend the time, energy, & expense.

I'll keep you posted!


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Stephen Gray on February 17, 1998 at 20:01:28:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Anna Nelson on February 08, 1998 at 03:52:25:

I'm checking into your site out of concern for my girlfriend. I just recently found out that she has EBV. She told me that the only treatment was just to eat right, and to get plenty of rest. The only problem with this is that she is very stubborn and will not commit to her prescribed diet, she hates vegetables. She seems to think that she just has to live with it and that it will eventually kill her. I would really like for you or someone to send me some literature about this misunderstood virus.
I understand that you are probably a very busy person but any help with her present situation would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Stephen Gray



Re: Rupptured appendix

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 18, 1998 at 11:05:35:

In Reply to: Rupptured appendix posted by Shelly Russell on February 17, 1998 at 14:05:36:

Dear Shelly,

The appendicitis wouldn't have happened if LGS had not been there first. Just last night I was leading a discussion for about 60+ people about CFS. A man (about 75) related almost exactly what you have described here. His appendicitis happened when he was 7 years old.

Of course, the ruptured appendix was just the "straw that broke the camel's back" and pushed her over the edge. Had it not been for that, she might not have developed these other things until a few years later than she did.

I am looking forward to your feedback, about the "tool" that is my book, to others here on the BB.

Walt



Re: EBV

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 18, 1998 at 11:22:57:

In Reply to: Re: EBV posted by Kathy on February 17, 1998 at 19:20:00:

Dear Kathy,

Thanks for the update. Please remember that the regular practice (at least 20 minutes twice a day--never within 2 hours of retiring) of an effective form of skilled relaxation is more important than diet for resolution of EBV. Both together is much better of course. However, if you are only going to do one, the skilled relaxation is the one to do.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 18, 1998 at 11:34:23:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Stephen Gray on February 17, 1998 at 20:01:28:

Dear Stephen,

No one, yet, has died of chronic EBV. People may WISH they were dead--and a few have committed suicide because their docs gave them NOTHING they could do to get over it. However, this problem is TOTALLY resolvable by doing the very things your friend doesn't want to do----
a VERY common situation.

By far the most effective approach, in the short and long run, is for her to learn an effective form of skilled relaxation and practice it at least 20 minutes twice a day (never within 2 hours of retiring).

However, it sounds like your friend will be too stubborn to learn something like this. She would probably sooner just lie there "resting" than learn something new.

You will find that we can only open doors, we cannot make people we love walk through them. Remember the story about leading a horse to water? Once you have opened the door, if she decides to stay miserable--rather than learning what would give her her life back-- you will just have to love her as she is while she lives a miserable life.

If she gets up the discipline to decide that she doesn't want to live for many years like this (this will not kill her), perhaps she will change her mind. A good start for her would be to use the search feature provided with this BB and read everything she can find about EBV, Chronic Epstein Barr Virus and the like.

THEN, if she still has questions, have her write again. Neither of us can do this for her.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Candace on February 18, 1998 at 15:50:40:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Sharon Fanucce on February 14, 1998 at 19:53:01:

To anyone with info:

I just received a telephone call from my child's doctor that he has Epstein-Barr. He has been vomiting for about five months, not losing weight or at least not dramatically and we were at a loss about what was going on. He was also diagnosed with H. pylori. Anyway, any info on this virus or where I could go to look for it would be greatly appreciated. He is 7 years old and is also being home tutored because we have no idea when he will vomit or for how long. He also has chronic ear infections, mostly in the winter, any connection? Let me know. Thanks



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Phyl on February 18, 1998 at 15:51:51:

In June of '97, the day after being involved in a minor car accident, I woke up with terible vertigo. I then began to be unable to concentrate or relieve my lightheadedness. Bloodtests revealed that I had acute EBV. (Along with stress-working towards completing my master's degree and chronic inflamatory bowel disease -Crohn's - I have managed to complete my degree, as well as do a practicum in my field. Now, 8 months later, I still can't shake the lightheadedness and lack of mental focus. I have started a regimen of St. John's Wart and Ginkoba. Am I on the rught track



Re: EBV

Posted by Kathy on February 18, 1998 at 19:26:31:

In Reply to: Re: EBV posted by Walt Stoll on February 18, 1998 at 11:22:57:

Dear Dr. Stoll,
I appreciate your letting me know the vital priority of meditation for getting over EBV and improving my immune system. Sometimes we have tradeoffs with time, etc. and have to make tough choices.

I plan to be very faithful with my skilled relaxation twice a day, never less than 2 hours before retiring.

With a little less enthusiasm, because I haven't yet seen the results, I nevertheless plan to be prepared to eat whole foods only, and to especially cut out all types of sugar, completely.



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 19, 1998 at 06:22:59:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Candace on February 18, 1998 at 15:50:40:

Dear Candace,

Use the search feature for this BB & read everything you can find about EBV and Chronic Epstein Barr Virus. If you want to see how this is related to chronic ear infections, etc, you will need to read a copy of my book (link below).

THEN, if you still have questions, wqrite again.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 19, 1998 at 06:29:57:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Phyl on February 18, 1998 at 15:51:51:

Dear phyl,

You need to see a Cranial Osteopath for the plagiocephaly causing the vertigo (triggered by the accident). Call The Cranial Academy, 8606 Allisonville Road #130, Indianapolis, IN 42650, (317) 594-0411 for the closest certified CO in your area.

However, although related to the plagiocephaly, the causes for your other conditions would be best approached by your first using the search feature for this BB & reading everything you can find about Crohn's, IBS and the like AND about EBV and Chronic Epstein Barr Virus.

THEN, if you still need more understanding, the quickest way to get onto that path would be to read a copy of my book (link below).

Please write if you have more questions once you have the above under your belt.

As you get well, please share your experiences with the BB since there are a lot of people out there suffering like you are and they would be inspired by your progress.

Walt



Re: MCS Rx

Posted by Ron on February 19, 1998 at 14:30:21:

In Reply to: Re: MCS Rx posted by maggie on February 19, 1998 at 12:24:43:

Multiple Chemical Sensitivity (MCS) is one of the forms of Environmental Illness. It is thought that Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is closely related. Here's a web page for you if you are interested in getting the low down on MCS.



Re: Epstien Barr Virus

Posted by Joy Darcy on February 19, 1998 at 14:58:43:


Please send me some info on the EBV virus, my counts are EBV VCA IgG (EIA) 560 H.EBV VCA IgM (eia) 148 H. Is this have anything to do with mono??

Thanks in Advance,
Joy


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Liesl Bertagnolli on February 20, 1998 at 00:23:03:

I was diagnosed with EBV almost 2 yrs. ago when I was 17. The doctor told me that there was nothing I could do but get plenty of rest. Well, the days and months passed me by (not that I noticed much, I was asleep most of the time). I just didn't seem to be getting better in the least. Since then, I've decided to take matters into my own hands. I have experimented with various herbs, and a multitude of changes in my diet (and exercise) also. I seem to feel a little better, but nothing spectacular. I have heard that there is some diet that is supposed to help, but what? If anyone knows I would be so grateful. I have researched and researched and come up empty handed. It seems there are many questions but never answers! Please if you have any info. post me back.
Thanks for your time,
Liesl


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Liesl Bertagnolli on February 20, 1998 at 02:20:08:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Mariann on February 10, 1998 at 20:23:18:

I know what you are going through. I have had this for about 2 years now and I am only 18. I too have started on herbs, and I am trying to alter and improve my diet also. I know how frustrating it can be! If you've gotten any new info. or would just be interested in talking to someone who definitely knows what you are going through you can e-mail me : kairo@sweetwater.net

See ya and good luck,
Liesl


Re: Very Concerned

Posted by Amy on February 20, 1998 at 15:50:26:

In Reply to: Re: Very Concerned posted by Walt Stoll on February 13, 1998 at 11:37:40:

My mother was recently diagnosed with EBV & mono.I also have mono. Does this mean I also have EBV? For someone with EBV, what are the chances of getting Lymphoma cancer? How much higher are the chances of getting it if cancer is VERY common in your family? Can EBV be caused by a yeast infection and an huge dose of strong antibiotics?


Re: CFS

Posted by Margaret Pringle on February 20, 1998 at 18:51:02:

In Reply to: Re: CFS posted by Walt Stoll on February 08, 1998 at 09:40:08:

Dear Dr,Stoll, Well I am still making big improvements because of your advice. I can't believe how much the relaxation exercises have helped me . I feel like a different person already. However I have still a way to go. Sorry to ask more questions but I need to know why my body is like this. Is it normal with this problem to feel lousy in the morning and why is it like that? When I have my period I feel really tired and then I pick up again why is it like that? Lastly months ago before I had spoken to you I had made an appointment with a Doctor who specialises in getting rid of the toxins by detoxifying the system. Do you think I should do that or need it as I am improving with the relaxing , and wholefood diet? I hope this message makes sense. Thanks for your time Margaret.


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 21, 1998 at 09:40:54:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Liesl Bertagnolli on February 20, 1998 at 00:23:03:

Dear Liesl,

Doctors who tell patients there is nothing they can do for EBV, but rest and wait for it to go away by itself, should be doing something else for a living.

Use the search feature provided with this BB & read everything you can find about EBV and Chronic Epstein Barr Virus (or syndrome).

THEN, if you still have questions, write again.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 21, 1998 at 09:51:11:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Liesl Bertagnolli on February 20, 1998 at 02:20:08:

Dear Liesl,

If you are going to do only one thing, it should NOT be diet. The regular practice of effective skilled relaxation is, BY FAR, the most important thing to resolve this condition.

Walt



Re: CFS testimonial

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 21, 1998 at 11:04:56:

In Reply to: Re: CFS posted by Margaret Pringle on February 20, 1998 at 18:51:02:

Dear Margaret,

Congratulations for doing the work needed to make this work for you. You are right, you are only getting started. Just wait till you see how well you feel in a year.

Your toxins are related to your LGS and the bracing that is a direct cause of the lgs and fatigue. SO, eventually, you probably won't need the detox. However, you will probably speed up your progress if you did it now.

Remember, with what you are doing, it is going to take 6-12 months to get rid of ALL your symptoms. Patience!
You are feeling about as you should at this stage of what you are doing.

Something that might help you watch your progress (and thus help your impatience--normal at this stage) would be for you to keep a diary of how you feel every day. The more detail the better. This will document your progress since we all tend to forget how bad we really felt in the beginning.

The most dramatis changes may have already happened. However, you are early enough in your program that there are still lots of nice surprises coming.

Please continue to let us know how you do.

Walt



Re: Epstien Barr Virus

Posted by Jennifer B. on February 21, 1998 at 13:37:25:

Dear Doctor,
I recently obtained a job with a person who has told me she has the Epstein-Barr virus. I work in her office using her computer and phone among other things that we mutually share each day. I have read that it can be transmitted by close contact. We sit right next to each other sometimes as she instructs me on the computer systems. Is there any chance that I could contract this disease? Also is this virus airborne? I am really worried about this. Please send an answer as soon as you can. Thank you.



What is Epsteins Barr Virus

Posted by Carolyn on February 21, 1998 at 21:22:09:

I was diagnosed with mono 15 years ago. Then I was told I had EBV. I am still suffering from chronic fatigue. Even when I get a good nights sleep, I wake up exhausted. I have 2 children under the age of 4. I can't live like this. I still don't understand what it is and is there anything I can do about it. Please advise me.


Re: CFS testimonial

Posted by Margaret Pringle on February 22, 1998 at 18:46:10:

In Reply to: Re: CFS testimonial posted by Walt Stoll on February 21, 1998 at 11:04:56:

Dear Dr.Stoll, Thank you again for your encouragement and advice - it was exactly what I needed to hear. The only thing I wasn't sure about was the lgs. I didn't know I had lgs or does everyone with cfs also have lgs. I thought I might have missed something . So if I don't have lgs do I still need to try the detoxing. If I do detox would it be even more tiring to go through that with cfs? Or shall I continue with the relaxation ,diet and massages and not worry about the detox. In other words is crucial to go through a detox to recover from cfs. Thanks again I really appreciate your help.
Margaret.


Re: Epstien Barr Virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 23, 1998 at 17:50:48:

In Reply to: Re: Epstien Barr Virus posted by Jennifer B. on February 21, 1998 at 13:37:25:

Dear Jennifer,

If you are the least bit healthy, you cannot get it.

Use the search feature for this BB & read everything you can find about EBV and Chronic Epstein Barr Virus.

THEN, if you still have questions write again.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by laura grabowski on February 21, 1998 at 15:01:15:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Walt Stoll on February 18, 1998 at 11:34:23:

Describe in DETAIL what you mean by your recommendation of "the most effective approach to EBV in the short and long run, is to learn an EFFECTIVE form of skilled relaxation 20 minutes twice a day."



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 23, 1998 at 17:58:13:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by laura grabowski on February 21, 1998 at 15:01:15:

Dear Laura,

I wrote a book to "explain in detail" all about this (link below). If you don't want to start there (for fear that I might, somehow, be exploiting people by urging them to read my book) read "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier
--also referenced in the back of my book. I suggest my book first since it is much simpler and also includes what you can do about what you learn.

It is not fair for anyone to suggest that I retype my entire book here on the BB. I am trying to respond to an average of 60 requests per day, 7 days a week. The reason I wrote my book is that there is only one of me and millions of you out there who need the information. I make NO money from my book. It is my service to the public.

Use the search feature provided with this BB and you will learn a lot about what you seek.

Once you have the above under your belt, if you still have questions, write again.

Walt





Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Bill on February 24, 1998 at 11:42:31:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by laura grabowski on February 21, 1998 at 15:01:15:

You can get a start on learning what Dr Stoll means by effective skilled relaxation by checking out his article on Skilled Relaxation here on this website.

Bill


Re: CFS testimonial

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 23, 1998 at 18:30:05:

In Reply to: Re: CFS testimonial posted by Margaret Pringle on February 22, 1998 at 18:46:10:

Deare Margaret,

It is VERY unlikely that you could have CFS without LGS having come years before. If you are dealing with the causes, I would be likely to wait for a few months, at least, before the detox. You could soon decide whether you needed it or not. You probably will not. HOWEVER, if you are impatient for more benefits, doing the detox now would probably provide some.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by maria atzori on February 24, 1998 at 14:19:08:

I was diagnosed with epstein barr after the birth of my second child in 1994. I suspect that I contacted this during a blood transfusion in 1990 but didn't hit me until after the birth of the 2nd. My husband and I both have it and it can be very distressing. We are both functional but with added stress from our everyday lives, it can be difficult. Currently we are using "Evening Primrose Oil Capsules", and they seem to help but we were wondering if there is any other type of herbal medicine that we can use that is more effective. Rumor has it that shark cartilage can help. Is this true? I would also like more info on investigation of this virus and if anyone is close to a cure and or more effective medication; perhaps an antibiotic. We look forward to any comment you may have. Thankyou...The "Atzori's"


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Tammie on February 24, 1998 at 14:30:59:

Walt, You seem very cold hearted and lack compassion. Some of these people are so exhasted and debilitated that they can't help themselves.


Re: Epstein Barr Virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 24, 1998 at 14:56:19:

Dear Harriet,

Everything you have mentioned have been caused by the same basic mechanisms. I am glad that you have my book since that will give you the bases for understanding anything else you might want to ask.

When you have read, write again.

Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Jim on February 24, 1998 at 20:53:22:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Tammie on February 24, 1998 at 14:30:59:

This is truly amazing, Tammie. Just look what you have been able to determine after hopping onto the board in response to a posting from Dr. Stoll last September. Amazing insight for someone who hasn't read the hundreds of postings about Epstein Barr since then.

Yes, he is a monster, isn't he? Imagine someone who tells suffering people they don't have to suffer; that they can learn how to heal themselves.

What a cold-hearted s.o.b. to tell people that they can educate themselves and DO things that will change their lives, and at a reasonable expense! Boy, that sure is in stark contrast to all those warm-hearted, understanding M.D.'s out there with their unctuous, apologetic smiles who tell their patients that there is nothing that can be done, that they'll just have to live with it. Yes, and the compassionate conventional docs with ready RX pads who are only too happy to prescribe a medication to increase a feeling of well being, even if it is a detriment to the basic cause of the suffering, (and bill their insurance company, of course), now why isn’t Dr. Stoll more like that!!

Oh, and then, get this……Dr. Stoll has gone out and put all the things a person needs to know into one fairly compact book, and he actually expects people to read it, follow the advice and resources he has collected and put there, and take responsibility for themselves. Then he comes onto the Net for hours a day as a public service and answers the questions of those who are on the path. FOR FREE!!!!!! What An unfeeling brute he is!

It gets worse. He tells people the truth, even if it is uncomfortable for them to hear. Why not, he can’t charge their insurance company anyhow. He’s not afraid of losing patients and income. He realizes, I think, that the ones who want to hear the truth are the only ones who will benefit from his services anyway. There are times he seems to be trying to evoke a little anger to get someone motivated, hoping they will get on the stick and get moving. He actually thinks even the debilitated can help themselves! He must be such an unfeeling fool, eh?

Think about it.

Jim




epstein barr virus

Posted by sylvia on February 25, 1998 at 03:53:22:

I have just been told by my doctors office I am at the end of the virus. But to me the numbers are very high mid 600,s.
But that was all. Are these numbers high? and if so should I have been given medicine or a diet for this condition.
I see you have a book, and I have looked on the BB but really havent gotten any info as of yet. Any ideas to start me along until I purchase your book.
Anything will be appreicated
since I sleep the day away and can't keep my eyes open.

thanks,
Sylvia


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Jim on February 25, 1998 at 07:45:48:

In Reply to: epstein barr virus posted by sylvia on February 25, 1998 at 03:53:22:

OK, Sylvia, here's what you do. Go to Dr. Stoll's Home Page. There you will find (near the top) the word "archive." Click on that word. Then when the new page opens, click on Epstein Barr. Then click on the little "1" and you will get a long string of postings about EBV and a lot of information.

Good Luck.

Jim


Re: Epstein Barr Virus

Posted by Polly on February 25, 1998 at 16:44:47:

In your email Posted January 06, 1998 at 11:20:16:
you suggested that falling asleep during or after deep relaxation is not desirable. Why is this the case?
I was diagnosed with EB virus 12 years ago, and have experiencing chronic fatigue for the past 2 years. I have been doing daily deep relaxation for the past 4 months. I assumed that falling asleep at the end (or near the end) was a good thing.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Many thanks for your time


Polly


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Mary on February 25, 1998 at 17:10:40:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Walt Stoll on February 23, 1998 at 17:58:13:

About 4 months ago I went to the DR's because I was constantly Exausted. They did all kinds of tests and came up with nothing. The last test was another blood test that tested for EBV. They said I had "traces" of the Virus in me. Giving me nothing to do for it. Since then I have felt OK but recently I have become exausted again. Can EBV come back? I know so little about it and am just starting to research it now. Can you suggest any site or ANYTHING I can do to find out more about this. AND could it be possible that I have it again? I am not a Dr or A Nurse and really don't know where to begin to look into this. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ~Mary


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Ron Costello on February 26, 1998 at 09:24:36:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Anna Nelson on February 08, 1998 at 03:52:25:

Dear JIM:

You are a horses ass.

Ron


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Jim on February 27, 1998 at 01:04:29:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Ron Costello on February 26, 1998 at 09:24:36:

Ron,

Your reply, while articulate, is probably understated.

Jim


Re: Epstien Barr Virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 26, 1998 at 10:10:06:

In Reply to: Re: Epstien Barr Virus posted by michael on February 24, 1998 at 02:00:26:

Dear Michael,

Use the search feature provided for this BB & read everything you can find about EBV, Chronic Epstein Barr Virus and the like. You will get more information than you probably want. This is a FAD diagnosis based upon the most superficial understanding of the symptoms associated with the blood titer. Twenty years from now, this diagnosis will be unheard of. Physicians making it now should be ashamed of themselves.

The reason conventional "treatment" is SO ineffectual, is BECAUSE of this superficial understanding. Holistic physicians have NO trouble clearing this up.

Walt



Re: Yeast Bread without sugar

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 26, 1998 at 10:29:41:

In Reply to: Re: Yeast Bread without sugar posted by Inez Carr on February 24, 1998 at 11:49:44:

Dear Inez,

Wonderful question! It gives me a chance to help everyone on the BB understand what this is all about a little better.

ALL of the finest bread bakeries in Europe use diastatic malt for the yeast food that makes it possible to raise bread.
In this country we have just gotten lazy and forgotten where the really good bread comes from.

The reason for the immunological reaction I have described here on this BB, see link: Sugar vs Refined Carbohydrates. is that the carbohydrate has been separated from all the nutrients necessary to run the Krebs Cycle. Diastatic malt is just powdered sprouted grain. During the sprouting process, the starch is converted to mono & disaccharides which are the only form of carbohydrates that yeast can use (since yeast lacks the enzymes to split the longer chains). Because the entire sprouted wheat kernal is powdered, ALL of the necessary nutrients are still there.

I think how to make diastatric malt, and how much to use, is included in Beth Loiselle, RD's book "The Healing Power of Whole Foods" I have been recommending for years. Call (800) 870-5378.

Write if you have more questions.

Walt



Re: what should I be doing? School Question

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 26, 1998 at 10:59:47:

In Reply to: what should I be doing? School Question posted by David on February 24, 1998 at 15:02:31:

Dear David,

I would suggest you get a wider exposure of what the health care of the 21st century will be. By the time you start practicing whatever you do end up doing, it will BE the 21st century.

A good place to start would be by getting information from Chiropractic Schools. Doc Dave, on this BB, could help you with that. Naturopathic School information would be very helpful. Call Bastyr University at (206) 523-9585. Also, sign onto the website of the American Holistic Nursing Association. Use yahoo or some other search engine & ask for AHNA.

Mind you, I am not trying to get you to be a nurse, naturopath of chiropractor although, once you have enough information you might want to. I am suggesting that you should not make your decision without a more global understanding as to where the healing proofessions are going.

You might even contact Antioch university in Yellow Springs Ohio. They were the first university to offer a PhD in Holistic Health (about 20 years ago) and are still the standard in the field.

Once you have all this under your belt, if you still have questions, write again. I hope you will continue to share your journey with the rest of us. It is bound to be an education for many.

Namaste` Walt



Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Martha Morgan on February 26, 1998 at 14:22:38:

In Reply to: Re: epstein barr virus posted by Jim on February 04, 1998 at 08:02:07:

Dr Stroll: Thank you for taking your personal time to answer questions. I caught mono for the 2nd time 1/97 and I guess it turned to EBV. I've only had just a few minutes to view your responses but my question is: I'm 28 and thinking of becoming pregnant soon for the 1st time and would like to know if EBV will cause any affect to a baby or worsen my condition. I currently have a constant sense of movement when I'm stationary (dizziness) and when I get fatigued I'll experience anxiety attacks I know caused by the fatigue.
What is the name of your book?


Re: epstein barr virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 27, 1998 at 14:05:20:

In Reply to: epstein barr virus posted by sylvia on February 25, 1998 at 03:53:22:

Dear Sylvia,

By far the most effective way to deal with this condition, to start with, is to learn an effective skilled relaxation technique and practice it at least 20 minutes twice a day (never within 2 hours of retiring). Go to the link: Skilled Relaxation.

That will be plenty for you to do while you are waiting. Since you are sleeping all the time anyhow, this would be right down your alley. Do whatever you do sitting up and hold a serving spoon in one hand. If you go too far into sleep (which is exactly what you do not want to do) the spoon will drop & bring you back. Just pick up the spoon & go back to doing whatever got you there.

Walt



Re: Epstein Barr Virus

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 27, 1998 at 15:17:09:

In Reply to: Re: Epstein Barr Virus posted by Polly on February 25, 1998 at 16:44:47:

Dear Polly,

Good question! No one knows. It has just been noted empirically and it is definitely true. It seems that the brain has to be in the beta rhythm for at least 2 hours AFTER successfully staying in the alpha/theta rhythm for the long term benefits to occur.

If one falls asleep during this practice, it is no more than taking a nap. Doing it successfully is 24 times as effective, per minute, than sleeping. It is this advantage we need to throw garbage off our wagon faster than we are having it thrown on. Become a student of this before you waste more of your time doing it.

Walt



ebv-13 year old male

Posted by Lisa on February 28, 1998 at 11:46:30:

Since my last plea for help in early February, I have done what I would consider extensive research on ebv. I do not have a medical backround, so much of the info I try to interpert or get help through a friend/nurse. My son, 13, has been ill for almost 3 months, his blood work shows "past ebv infection". We have been through 2 "primary care HMO doctors" who do not seem to know as much as I have learned re ebv. I have to virtually beg for a titer panel to be done, and these doctors have no real insight to what the readings mean...truly! We have also seen a Pediatric Gastro who has been helpful and knowledgable re ebv and stomach trouble. My son is on purpulcid, periatctin and prevacid. After reading books recommended on this site, I have given him ST.JOHN's Wort, Magnesium, Echinecea etc. His fatigue continues and his mental attitude is diminishing. He is 13 a very tender age to be at home with mom! Little or virtually no school attendance...we try to keep a positive, motivational attitude! Now, my question...Can you give me the name of a specialist in our area that knows volumes on ebv? We live in the Baton Rouge/New Orleans, LA area. (I will travel
tri-state if necessary!) PLEASE ADVISE! I cannot even get a doctor to sit down with me to go over blood work or answer my questions. ALSO, are there any books for kids to read, about ebv, cfs or any other difficult illnesses that are on a 13 year old level. A book written by a kid or an adult that he can relate to. He is very weary! He was an honor roll student, an all-star baseball pitcher etc...now he is just a coach potato who has a big heart, that is aching!
Please do not refer me to more BB postings, as I have read so many and also read Solving the Puzzle....etc. I need to actually communicate with someone who knows. Please dig up the name of a doctor we can see ASAP. I cannot thank you enough for your service, and I thank you in advance for your compassion , information, and prompt response!


Re: epstine bar and silicone implants

Posted by Jackie on February 28, 1998 at 15:59:36:

In Reply to: epstine bar and silicone implants posted by Jason Mckinney on February 22, 1998 at 22:06:58:

Literally 1 month after surgery for SALINE implants (which still have a silicone shell), I came down with EBV! That was in October. Since the week before Christmas I have not been able to work. And rarely leave my house. I am now on antidepressants and of course the plastic surgeon says the implants are not the cause. I have always been an extremely health consious person. Competing in pageants, and a swimsuit model. Now I look like a different person. I am 23 and am not ready for my life to be over! I looked up info on implants and the symptoms of silicone related illnesses mirror EBV exactly! Post any new info please, as I will too.



Re: ebv-13 year old male

Posted by Jackie on February 28, 1998 at 16:12:35:

In Reply to: ebv-13 year old male posted by Lisa on February 28, 1998 at 11:46:30:

Hi, Lisa. I am a 23 year old female in Florida and have had EBV for three months. My doctors have been giving me the runaround as well. I practically had to pin one of them down to tell me what amounted to a guess as to why I am so sick. He put me on Effexor, which is a mix od Prosac and Elavil, two antidepressants. I am on my fourth week and am beginning to feel happier. I still feel bad but my outlook is much better. I am a pageant contestant and model, so I know how your son must feel. Like he will never even run again! Or be able to live normally. There are many people who get better! At 13 he stands such a better chance than most. Also, a hint. I was so stressed out when I got sick. My parents lost their business, fiance' left me, and several other things, try to keep his stress level very low! What I mean is he knows he's sick, he sees how it is affecting his family, and he doesn't know when he will be better. This in Itself can keep him ill. I know, my mom did it to me. Please e-mail me if you want to talk, I think we can help each other, I have read the book too, and am in the process of finding anything that can help. Please see if you can get your son on some serious antidepressants like effexor. I was very skeptical at first, but think it is the best move I have made since getting this dreadful virus!



EBV question

Posted by Pam on February 28, 1998 at 19:17:36:

I've been diagnosed with EBV for 2 yrs now. But I also have a high positive ANA result too. My doctor has ran numerous tests to find out why, all of which were negative. For example RF, Lupus, Sjorgren's, Wegener's. I would like to know if a positive ANA result would be related to EBV. If not, do you have any suggestions as to what might cause a positive ANA besides the above listed diseases.

thank you,

Pam K.


epstine bar and silicone implants

Posted by Jason Mckinney on February 22, 1998 at 22:06:58:

Hello!

I am writing for my mother and was wondering if there are
any articles on a corrilation between the epstine bar and silicone. And if so, where I might find further info.
Thanks for the help,

Sincerely,


Jason Mckinney


Re: epstine bar and silicone implants

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 24, 1998 at 14:20:59:

In Reply to: epstine bar and silicone implants posted by Jason Mckinney on February 22, 1998 at 22:06:58:

Dear Jason,

ANYTHING that adds a burden to the already beleagered immunity, of the average person in this culture, would tend to push that individual over the edge of his/her cliff. It is well established that silicone implants are one of these things. The best advice I can give either or you is to learn what I am talking about. You could start with these 2 links:
Modern Medical Interpretation of Stress. and Immunity & Stress.

THEN, if that makes sense to you, your next resource should be a copy of my book (link below).

Finally, if you still have questions, write again.

Walt



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