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Posted by Walt Stoll on April 03, 2003 at 07:05:18:

Friends,

In my opinion, this is a valid concept.

Comments?

Walt

Misty
http://www.searching-alternatives.com

Think someone's staring at you? 'Sixth sense' may be biological

By CECELIA GOODNOW
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

If Rupert Sheldrake is right, at least seven out of 10 of you
reading this article have felt the prickly sensation of being stared
at.

Maybe you've also had feelings of foreboding that later proved true.

Or perhaps you've been startled to answer the phone and hear the
loved one you were just thinking about.


Far from paranormal, these experiences are rooted in our biology,
says Sheldrake, a Cambridge-trained biochemist and maverick thinker
who's been called "a scientific heretic who refuses to be burnt at
the stake."

He says scientific exploration of these common experiences could
lead to a new understanding of human and animal minds -- if science
could overcome its dogmatic hostility toward this line of inquiry.

"This field of research is inherently controversial," said
Sheldrake, who has been touring with his new book, "The Sense of
Being Stared At, and Other Aspects of the Extended Mind" (Crown, 370
pages, $25).

"In my book, what I'm trying to do," he said, "is put forth the
scientific evidence."

Sheldrake argues for a new concept of the mind -- one not bounded by
the brain, but operating through fields of influence that he
believes are present throughout nature.

He suggests these "morphic fields" organize the development and
behavior of animals, plants, social groups and mental activity, from
human and animal telepathy to such everyday mysteries as the
synchronized swooping of

flocks of birds.

"I don't claim to explain all these things or to understand them,"
Sheldrake said. "I say, here's what seems to be going on."

For example, he posits that telepathy is a kind of morphic field, a
social field that allows distant members of a pack or tribe to stay
in contact or warn of danger. As an example he cites wolf packs,
which scatter over hundreds of miles to hunt without losing their
group cohesion.

"Telepathy depends on social bonds," Sheldrake said, adding that the
ability seems to be stronger in animals than in most people.

In the modern world, he said, the most common example is telephone
telepathy -- sensing who's on the phone before you pick up the
receiver, especially if the caller is a close friend or relative.

He said the phenomenon also occurs with e-mail, a topic he plans to
discuss at Microsoft. As of last September he had completed 160
experimental trials of e-mail telepathy, designed to yield a 25
percent success rate through random chance. He said his 43 percent
success rate was "very significantly above the chance level."


A common event

As the title of his book suggests, the sense of being stared at is
the most common "paranormal" event, reported by 70 to 90 percent of
the adults Sheldrake surveyed. He speculates that focused visual
attention has an effect that extends beyond the eye and brain of the
observer.

Sheldrake may be a free thinker, but he doesn't subscribe to every
unorthodox idea. He suspects "a lot of what comes through channelers
is colored by their own mind" and he questions accounts of past-life
regression, saying, "You can get people to think all sorts of things
under hypnotic suggestion."

What he finds most baffling are premonitions that precede tragedies,
such as the sinking of the Titanic and the terrorism of 9/11.

He quotes an eerily prescient dream that occurred five days before
the 9/11 terrorist attacks, as reported by Mike Cherni, a forensic
scientist who worked 300 yards from the World Trade Center. In the
dream, Cherni said, he was on an airplane and grew alarmed as the
plane took an unusual flight path, very low over Manhattan's
buildings.

"It was clear that we were flying directly south over the southern
tip of the island," says Cherni's account. "Then there was a
tremendous impact and I woke up. This dream disturbed me for days
afterward, enough that I described the dream to my wife."

Others reported dreaming on Sept. 10 of crowds fleeing down the
stairwells of a burning World Trade Center, or of buildings
collapsing or planes crashing or people running in panic.

Sheldrake finds it intriguing but said he has no conceptual
framework for these accounts. "I don't know how precognition works,"
he said. "It's much more mysterious, to my mind, than telepathy or
the sense of being stared at."


Spirited debate

For his views, Sheldrake has been called everything from visionary
to crackpot and, in the spirit of free debate, he posts the remarks
of his most vocal critics on his Web site, www.sheldrake.org The
most memorable brickbat came from Sir John Maddox, emeritus editor
of the scientific journal "Nature," whose 1981 quote about
Sheldrake's first book, "A New Science of Life," has become
legend: "This infuriating tract . . . is the best candidate for
burning there has been for many years."

Sheldrake said healthy skepticism is essential to science, but he
objects to "dogmatic skepticism," or "scientific fundamentalism,"
which rejects on principle the exploration of anything outside
conventional theories.

As a result, Sheldrake said, many areas of human and animal behavior
have never been investigated. "The mind itself, and what the mind
can do," he said, "is almost virgin territory."

Sheldrake, who has explored the topic for more than a decade,
solicits anecdotes from the public and publishes experiments readers
can try at home. He claims to have a database of 4,000 case
histories, 2,000 questionnaires and 1,500 telephone interviews in
addition to controlled experiments.

Despite his critics, Sheldrake is considered a cutting-edge thinker
in non-traditional circles, and he said many mainstream scientists
have encouraged him as well.

Sheldrake has been a speaker several times at the Whidbey Institute,
an admittedly non-scientific group on Whidbey Island devoted to
ecology and spirituality.

Sheldrake, 60, studied philosophy at Harvard and natural sciences at
Cambridge University, where he earned a doctorate and became
director of studies in biochemistry and cell biology. He spent the
first two decades of his career in mainstream academia, studying
plant biology.

In the 1970s he worked in India as principal plant physiologist at
the International Crop Research Instititute for the Semi-Arid
Tropics. He also spent time at an ashram.

"I first became convinced that living organisms were organized by
fields," Sheldrake said, "when I was doing research at Cambridge
University on the development of plants."

While genes and molecules provide the building blocks of life, they
don't explain how the parts are assembled to create a living
organism, said Sheldrake, who suggests that morphic fields provide
the organizational blueprint.

He sees this organizing force as a kind of collective unconscious
that allows members of a species to draw from, and contribute to,
the collective memory of the species.

P-I reporter Cecelia Goodnow can be reached at 206-448-8353 or
ceceliagoodnow@seattlepi.com.





Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive.

Posted by
Kathy Jones on April 03, 2003 at 07:11:39:

In Reply to: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll on April 03, 2003 at 07:05:18:

Hi Walt, that was interesting to read. I have had several dreams in the past that have 'come true'. One was so vivid that it changed the way I drove my car. A few days later, I was involved in a car accident, and the police officer said that he KNEW I wasnt speeding because if I had been driving any faster the results would have been disastrous. So I am forever thankful that I paid attention to that dream. I cant explain it, and if these things hadnt happened to me in the past, I would not believe it. I 'listen' now to my 6th sense! Kathy



Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive.

Posted by
Michele on April 03, 2003 at 09:06:43:

In Reply to: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll on April 03, 2003 at 07:05:18:

I do know that the brain itself can grow and compensate for some area's that are actually injured...
Also, much of wellness is from the head downward. It is so often that when "someone gives up" their body gives up.

Also, many of us, if not all, have had the feeling someone called our name or looked at us - or that the phone rang and we said, "I was just thinking of you" -
Our physical bodies are just that - one part of us - there is so much more, but it seems we as a society can not look beyond that.
I suppose the levitating circus acts of the past have led us to believe that anything beyond the norm of physical is just that - beyond the norm. When in reality - it IS the norm.

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Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive.

Posted by Ginger on April 03, 2003 at 10:58:56:

In Reply to: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll on April 03, 2003 at 07:05:18:

Hi Dr Stoll,
This is one topic that has always facinated me due to the fact in my lifetime I have experienced MANY of these type of situations.
One of the saddest, was that in which my Brother, (18 yr old at the time) had a dream a week before his devasting auto accident. He woke one morning and proceeded to tell my Mother that he dreamed he hit a tree and ended up like a vegetable (his words). He said, "Mom, if that ever happens, don't let me stay that way."

Well, a week later there he laid on life support with a massive head injury due to the fact his car struck a tree. It took nine days to have a flat EEG, and give my Parents the courgage to take him off of the LS. It was devasting to all of my family.... but the dream and his wishes to be removed from life support never left our thoughts and prayers.

Where did that dream come from? I question that to this day. Was it a warning? Unfortunatley, he was drinking and driving when the accident happened. Could he have changed his own fate if he had listened to the dream, and acted differently? I have to believe it IS a higher force working.
How else could you explain something such as this?
With an open mind and heart~
Ginger~

p.s. On a lighter note...I always KNOW whenever there is a Police Car on the highway... Haven't had a ticket in 10 years, and I can be one big lead-foot at times! (hate to admit..lol) Even my Husbnd is amazed....ha~



Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive.

Posted by He's great on April 03, 2003 at 11:00:38:

In Reply to: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll on April 03, 2003 at 07:05:18:

Hi Walt,

I saw Rupert speak at my favorite independent bookstore last Thursday evening. His lecture was extremely interesting and he is funny and charming. He also looks a good 20 years younger, I thought for sure he was in his forties.

Anyway, I went because I am in touch with my 6th sense, and have experienced telephone, email, dream, and other types of telepathic experiences.

Thanks for bringing this to the board, I believe it's an important part of bodymind experience and health.

Oh and Rupert is so nice, I sent him an email asking him a question that was stimulated by his lecture, and he answered me as soon as he got back from his book tour!



Hi Dr. Stoll,

Posted by ktj on April 03, 2003 at 15:38:27:

In Reply to: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll on April 03, 2003 at 07:05:18:

I'm wondering if you are aware of a "morphic field" around your little tribe? And what it's like for you to give advice this way--do you pick up "vibes" from people's messages?
ktj



Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive.

Posted by bing on April 03, 2003 at 21:03:12:

In Reply to: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll on April 03, 2003 at 07:05:18:

Walt, these interesting ideas coincide with a book I read a while ago--The Field (by Lynne McTaggart), which describes how a few open-minded scientists have been exploring many of the fascinating topics such as the human consciousness, ESP, energy, distant healing, distant viewing, etc from the perspective of Zero Point Field. You may find those subjects interesting. Just a thought.



Re: Hi Dr. Stoll, and ktj...

Posted by bing on April 03, 2003 at 21:08:09:

In Reply to: Hi Dr. Stoll, posted by ktj on April 03, 2003 at 15:38:27:

I'm sure Walt can feel your inquisive vibes when he reads your post, ktj. ;)

btw, I still haven't got a chance to write to you yet, being such a lazy person as I am... hehe. Maybe later, after the semester is over...



I meant "inquisitive" (not "inquisive") in the first line.--a typo. :) nmi

Posted by bing on April 03, 2003 at 21:15:37:

In Reply to: Re: Hi Dr. Stoll, and ktj... posted by bing on April 03, 2003 at 21:08:09:

nm

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Re: Hi Dr. Stoll,

Posted by Zen on April 03, 2003 at 21:15:40:

In Reply to: Hi Dr. Stoll, posted by ktj on April 03, 2003 at 15:38:27:

Do you pick up energy from others posts, ktj? I have experienced it and i am always surprised at it. If I hadnt experienced it myself, I would never believe that it could happen via cold, unfeeling technology.
I would guess that doctor stoll uses his wealth of medical knowledge and experience, with some intuition/vibes thrown in there as well. Its amazing to be able to pick up vibes from others energy field, via a computer.



Re: Hi Dr. Stoll, (another thought)

Posted by Zen on April 03, 2003 at 21:17:37:

In Reply to: Re: Hi Dr. Stoll, posted by Zen on April 03, 2003 at 21:15:40:

I guess its also easier to intuit via a computer, because we probably slip a lot more easily into the alpha state.

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Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive.

Posted by Matylda on April 03, 2003 at 21:56:57:

In Reply to: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll on April 03, 2003 at 07:05:18:

It was like an eye opener. The article made me realized that I am missing a lot. I don't dream at least last 25 years ( I know I am wrong) and I don't see faces of people I pass. I don't know how that happened. Can anybody explain it to me. I use to have busy nights, specially as a kid, even to busy. As a young woman I liked to imagine who are the people I passed, why were they sad or what they were thinking. And I wasn't interested in young people, rather in visibly experienced ones. The article made me sad. Like I was robbed and I didn't know that.
Matylda

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Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 04, 2003 at 07:26:35:

In Reply to: Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by Kathy Jones on April 03, 2003 at 07:11:39:

Thanks, Kathy.

It is still amazing to me that, as common as this phenomonen is, it is still rejected by most people.

Walt

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Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 04, 2003 at 07:45:38:

In Reply to: Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by Ginger on April 03, 2003 at 10:58:56:

Thanks, Ginger.

"Ve get too soon oldt and too late smardt."

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 04, 2003 at 07:48:02:

In Reply to: Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by He's great on April 03, 2003 at 11:00:38:

Thanks, He's.

I heard him speak right after he had written his first book. I agree that he is a wonderful person and a genius to boot!

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: Hi Dr. Stoll,

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 04, 2003 at 08:10:59:

In Reply to: Hi Dr. Stoll, posted by ktj on April 03, 2003 at 15:38:27:

Thanks, KTJ.

You bet! I have always practiced intuitive medicine (once I knew what to call it).

Namaste`

Walt



Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 04, 2003 at 08:31:53:

In Reply to: Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by bing on April 03, 2003 at 21:03:12:

Thanks, Bing.

I have studied the "Zero Point Field" for at least 10 years. I believe it to be at least some of our future.

Namaste`

Walt



Re: Hi Dr. Stoll,

Posted by ktj on April 04, 2003 at 19:54:17:

In Reply to: Re: Hi Dr. Stoll, posted by Walt Stoll on April 04, 2003 at 08:10:59:

If only more doctors would learn to listen to their intuition! (heavy sigh)
ktj

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Re: Hi Dr. Stoll,

Posted by ktj on April 04, 2003 at 19:58:23:

In Reply to: Re: Hi Dr. Stoll, posted by Zen on April 03, 2003 at 21:15:40:

Hi Zen,
Yes, I pick up the energy, too. Sometimes my rational self tries to talk me out of what I perceive but it is usually accurate.
Maybe this electronic medium increases the strength of the morphic field.
ktj

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Re: Hi Dr. Stoll, and ktj...

Posted by ktj on April 04, 2003 at 20:00:22:

In Reply to: Re: Hi Dr. Stoll, and ktj... posted by bing on April 03, 2003 at 21:08:09:

Hi bing. I'm looking forward to hearing from you!

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Re: Hi Dr. Stoll,

Posted by Zen on April 04, 2003 at 20:03:09:

In Reply to: Re: Hi Dr. Stoll, posted by Zen on April 03, 2003 at 21:15:40:

I think we are much more open to energies via this mode of communicating, and sometimes have to be careful. There are many different energies out here/there in cyberworld. I have come across energies that drained the life out of me, and I could no longer interact with that person, so I think we also have to be cautious, and use an auric "protection" field around us, so we dont get affected by negative energies we may encounter.

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Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive.

Posted by bing on April 04, 2003 at 21:10:31:

In Reply to: Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll on April 04, 2003 at 08:31:53:

O Walt, I'm glad to hear that.

From what I have read, the mainstream in science/physics still don't take Zero Point Field very seriously, especially in the areas of its relationship to the human consciousness, memory, and health/healing (the main interest seems to be in the military applications, understandably).

I wonder what areas have you been studying, if you don't mind sharing?



Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 05, 2003 at 08:04:05:

In Reply to: Re: Expanding your mind is part of wellness. Archive. posted by bing on April 04, 2003 at 21:10:31:

Thanks, Bing.

A partial list is included in the book "Awakening" by Henderson and in the book by Michael Murphy "The future of the Body". Your library can find you copies. Even these are only partial lists.

Remember that I spent more than 30 years traveling the country and reading to learn this stuff. It was like an all engrossing hobby.

Walt

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