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FLATULENCE...Dr Stoll please?

Posted by Janine on January 28, 2001 at 04:25:08:

I was wondering if certain foods can make ones gas have a foul odor? Can popcorn cause this? Or possibly foods that are hard to digest? Can an intestinal bug begin with bad smelling flatulence? Was just curious.



Re: FLATULENCE...Dr Stoll please? Another question for you..

Posted by Greg on January 28, 2001 at 04:34:10:

In Reply to: FLATULENCE...Dr Stoll please? posted by Janine on January 28, 2001 at 04:25:08:

This is a very taboo subject, but I have a question. What can cause bloating, and can beans as in baked beans cause flatulence with a strong odor?



Re: FLATULENCE...Dr Stoll please? Another question for you..

Posted by Vince F on January 28, 2001 at 06:56:35:

In Reply to: Re: FLATULENCE...Dr Stoll please? Another question for you.. posted by Greg on January 28, 2001 at 04:34:10:

Having an E friend who believes having gas is normal which
I disagree with because the only times I have it it is Very
uncomfortable with pains and it will happen with foods that
don't cause the problem I blame it on bad food. If it
happened all the time with a food I would suspect that you
can't tolerate the food and bloating to me would mean the
food is breaking down in the stomach and forming gas in it
and not in the intestines as is usually the case.

My friend eats a lot of fiber and claims the foods pass
through in Record time and look like when they went in so
to me not much digestion is going on and forming the large
amounts of gas. Not having the situation or liking the same
foods or in the same amounts I don't see the gas as normal
as he does. Passing gas to me is work since I have to stop
what I am doing and a sign of something not right wether it
be the food itself or how i handle it so would rather avoid
it.

VF



Causes of Flatulence

Posted by Rich on January 29, 2001 at 14:44:46:

In Reply to: FLATULENCE...Dr Stoll please? posted by Janine on January 28, 2001 at 04:25:08:

Flatulence can be caused by many things. First and foremost, chronic bracing is the origination of all chronic digestive problems of any kind. Once your digesive tract isn't working right from lack of blood flow and nutrients, any thing can happen. SR will deal with the problem over time. however, here is what goes wrong once the porblems have begun.

Gas is produced by the large amounts of bacteria in the intestinal tract. This is normal. however, gas can get out of control during any number of activities.

#1), incomplete breakdown of any food will lead to fermentation or putrefecation of food in the intestinal tract. The bacteria will feed on it and produce gas. since, more food than normal is being fermented, there is more gas produced. It is foul because of the rotting food in the gut. Pretty thought, isn't it.

#2), excess or foul gas can be caused by dysbiosis in the intestinal tract. You could have an overgrowth of bad bacteria and this can be the result. It should be noted that this senerio leads directly to senerio number one listed above so you are really dealing with LGS/bacterial dysbiosis/fermentation or putrefaction of food due to malabsorption and LGS. But, the malabsorption and LGS are caused by bracing so here we are again. Back to the SR.

If you want to treat your symptoms while you practice your SR, take a look at a post just down the page a bit. The title is Leaky Gut. I answered the same question there.

In addition to those options, you need to increase your fiber and decrease your transit time. Increased transit time can also cause fermentation of food, specifically carbohydrates. It's protein that putrefy's.

Increase vegetable consumption but go easy on sugary carbs like yams, grains, and breads. This will not help you. if you need to add more fiber, try flax seeds or powder, pysillium fiber. Do this first thing in the morning 1 hour before eating than right before bed or a few hours before to avoid urinating in the middle of the night and interupting sleep.

Another common cause of fermentation/putrefacation is improper food combining. Protein needs an acid medium and starch need an alkaline medium. If you eat them together, they neutralize eachother and you will ferment your food. As a rule, eat proteins with vegetables. Eat starch with vegetables and fats (fats delay the secretion of hydrochloric acid so you shouldn't have a lot of fat with proteins. Instead, have them with a starch meal). Eat fruit in the morning on an empty stomach. Eat nuts alone or with vegetables. Beans, being a protein and a starch at the same time, are difficult to digest as you know. You might be thinking, all foods contain starch, protein and fat simotaneously. This is true. However, we are taking about CONCENTRATED SOURCES. Meat has a heck of a lot more protein than a cup of broccoli or a slice of bread will. As a result, you will ferment less food, you will relive your gas within a few days and you will feel much better

Also, you can drink peppermint tea 30 minutes before meals to help prevent and treat gas. peppermint works!! Or, you can take peppermint oil capsules.

Read the post below. I include info on enzymes, Green foods and probiotics. Hope this helps. In the meantime, start SR (20 minutes 2x a day. First thing in the morning, and no later than 2 hours before bed)

Rich



To Janine again

Posted by Rich on January 29, 2001 at 14:47:06:

In Reply to: Causes of Flatulence posted by Rich on January 29, 2001 at 14:44:46:

woops. that leaky gut post is above yours. Check up there

Rich



Re: FLATULENCE...Dr Stoll please? Another question for you..

Posted by Walt Stoll on January 30, 2001 at 08:15:27:

In Reply to: Re: FLATULENCE...Dr Stoll please? Another question for you.. posted by Greg on January 28, 2001 at 04:34:10:

Hi, Greg.

This has been discussed a number of times and has been archived in both LGS and dysbiosis.

Basically, normal digestion causes the production of NO gas. ALL fermentation of undigested food causes gas as the natural process of ALL fermentation.

The old thing about beans is because of the raffinose in beans that we cannot digest because we do not have the enzyme in our gut to do so. That is what "Beano" is: raffinase (the enzyme that breaks down raffinose). It is the fermentation of raffinose that causes the gas.

Walt



Re: FLATULENCE...Archive in dysbiosis.

Posted by Walt Stoll on January 30, 2001 at 08:16:21:

In Reply to: Re: FLATULENCE...Dr Stoll please? Another question for you.. posted by Greg on January 28, 2001 at 04:34:10:

Hi, Greg.

This has been discussed a number of times and has been archived in both LGS and dysbiosis.

Basically, normal digestion causes the production of NO gas. ALL fermentation of undigested food causes gas as the natural process of ALL fermentation.

The old thing about beans is because of the raffinose in beans that we cannot digest because we do not have the enzyme in our gut to do so. That is what "Beano" is: raffinase (the enzyme that breaks down raffinose). It is the fermentation of raffinose that causes the gas.

Walt



Not even a little

Posted by Rich on January 30, 2001 at 10:13:17:

In Reply to: Re: FLATULENCE...Dr Stoll please? Another question for you.. posted by Walt Stoll on January 30, 2001 at 08:15:27:

I don't want to dispute the "doc" here but isn't it just a tad bit much, to say that the human GI tract should produce abslutely NO gas? I mean sure, there should be very little, but NONE at all? Human's can't digest the fiber in vegetables and the beneficial bacteria like to feed on that. I would think that at least some gas would most definitely be produced by the bacteria in their metabolism of the fiber. ??

Rich



Re: Causes of Flatulence

Posted by
Vince F on January 30, 2001 at 10:37:50:

In Reply to: Causes of Flatulence posted by Rich on January 29, 2001 at 14:44:46:

I heard that gases formed in digestion normally are absorbed
That doesn't sound good to me but either does having gas.
My friend who claims to have a BIG problem with gas eats a
Lot of fiber and claims to have an unreal transit time to
me like Just a few hrs. Speeding up the time seems like it
would increase the gas by increasing the speed and either
incomplete breakdown of the food or little absorption of
gases formed.

Since I don't think absorbing gases is a good situation
and I don't feel that Not having gas is bad and I don't
have much or many problems I would think that diet either
not right for the person or a problem they have causes the
gas. When i have gas or any digestive disturbences I look
for a reason and usually blame it on food since that is my
experience.

I think things like too little or diluted stomach acid
could be a cause or too fast a passing of the food not
breaking it down or spending enough time in the intestines
for digetion/absorption to take place.

VF



Re: Causes of Flatulence (Archive in flatulence.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on January 31, 2001 at 12:23:07:

In Reply to: Causes of Flatulence posted by Rich on January 29, 2001 at 14:44:46:

Thanks, again, Rich!

Walt



Re: Causes of Flatulence (Archive in flatulence.)

Posted by Rich on January 31, 2001 at 14:05:34:

In Reply to: Re: Causes of Flatulence (Archive in flatulence.) posted by Walt Stoll on January 31, 2001 at 12:23:07:

Thanks Dr. Stoll. I am really beginning to understand this whole process of cause and effect in the body and what needs to be done in order to gain health, thanks to you and your site. I don't ALWAYS get it right, but I am gettng there!

Rich :)



Re: Not even a little (Not even a little.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 01, 2001 at 09:11:45:

In Reply to: Not even a little posted by Rich on January 30, 2001 at 10:13:17:

Hi, Rich.

Get yourself a human physiology text and enjoy!

Normal digestion produces NO gas. The only air in the gut will be that air which is swallowed with food OR by nervousness. ANY food NOT digested will be fermented and that produces a LOT of gas.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt



Re: Not even a little (Not even a little.)

Posted by
Vince F on February 01, 2001 at 11:26:19:

In Reply to: Re: Not even a little (Not even a little.) posted by Walt Stoll on February 01, 2001 at 09:11:45:

I don't believe gas is normal though I don't feel I eat a
lot of fiber but my hounds do since I feed them kibble but
the only time they have gas is when I feed them something
that I Feel they don't digest. Chesse Used to be a problem
but not since I straightened out one who used to be very
sensitive and sometimes have soft smelly stools. I used to
feed cheese to other dogs and only Swiss gave them gas so I
avoided that since I feel that gas is a sign of something
not working right and if it is just one type of a particular
food I don't get too concerned since I used to have
digestive problems with fresh pork that wasn't
cooked at a high temp. My mother insisted I had gall baldder
problems Though no other food or fat caused a problem.

A friend who claims to eat a Lot of fiber and has a Lot
of gas also it doesn't sound like the food gets broken down
or digested since he claims it just looked like the item
chewed up when it comes out. Except for things like bad food
or unchewed corn that would concern me.

VF



Re: Not even a little (Not even a little.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 03, 2001 at 08:52:41:

In Reply to: Re: Not even a little (Not even a little.) posted by Vince F on February 01, 2001 at 11:26:19:

Hi, Vince.

Actually, psyllium seed also ferments and causes gas--the only negative side effect I know of for this fiber.

Walt



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