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Re: Glyconutrients

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 24, 2001 at 10:13:11:

Hi, Mike.

First of all I have to say that although glucosamine is manufactured from a sugar molecule it is metabolized in a very different way than any sugar I know of.

Next, I have no idea how this product could help anyone with anything. I stand ready to be educated. However, it makes no sense to me in the light of my 40+ years of training and medical practice.

Walt



Re: Glyconutrients

Posted by
Mike Bergman on October 25, 2001 at 00:13:41:

In Reply to: Re: Glyconutrients posted by Walt Stoll on October 24, 2001 at 10:13:11:

Dr. Stoll and LT,

LT, don't worry, if they helping your dog, I believe you, I have nothing bad to say about them :) And actually, Ambrotose (the product you have your dog on) is specifically the reason I started this mini study of mine.

Okay, well here is a bit more information that I have gathered recently, I'm consantly researching on this stuff.

Here is a URL to a site which has a short description, should take you a couple minutes to read and it has a little flash animation as well that show what the actual purpose of some of the sugars is. Check this out: http://www.technologyreview.com/magazine/oct01/upstream.asp

Also, visit this site: http://ci.mond.org/9705/970514.html it is about the study of Charbohydrates drugs and glycobiology. I believe you will find both of these sites very interesting considering your reply and that you would like to be further educated.

I'm going to post some more information again (hopefully in the near future).

Let me know what you think Dr. Stoll.



have you seen this site....

Posted by LT on October 25, 2001 at 03:56:24:

In Reply to: Re: Glyconutrients posted by Mike Bergman on October 25, 2001 at 00:13:41:

It's manatech's site that contains some of the related studies and info.

I haven't really dug into this topic and studied it, so I have pretty limited knowledge about it....

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Re: Glyconutrients (Archive in human genome.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 26, 2001 at 13:04:56:

In Reply to: Re: Glyconutrients posted by Mike Bergman on October 25, 2001 at 00:13:41:

Thanks, Mike.

What these guys are saying is correct AS FAR AS IT GOES!!

Mark my words. In 20 years they will be saying: "Big breakthrough in our understanding of gene signalling with sugars! It seems that each sugar is only a true 'lock in key' message to the gene when it is accompanied by the 100+ micronutrients that they are found in nature within a whole food!"

The simplistic allopathic paradigm still casts a cloud over even good researchers minds and conclusions.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: Glyconutrients (Archive in human genome.)

Posted by
Mike Bergman on October 26, 2001 at 14:53:41:

In Reply to: Re: Glyconutrients (Archive in human genome.) posted by Walt Stoll on October 26, 2001 at 13:04:56:

Dr. Stoll,

I think I know you're saying. So the sugars will only do what they are supposed to if they are combined with regular healthy diet?

I hope I read that right. If that's so, it still makes sense that to take these special combinations of these sugars would help to fight desease and heal the body if I'm not mistaken?

Also, the link that LT provided has a lot more information that they two sites I gave you. http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/section_viewer.wm?SECTION=NUTRITIONALS&MAIN=glyconutritionals

I'm very interested to hear if you anything else to say on this subject. If not, thanks for your comments so far.

- Mike



Re: Glyconutrients (Archive in human genome.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 27, 2001 at 09:29:32:

In Reply to: Re: Glyconutrients (Archive in human genome.) posted by Mike Bergman on October 26, 2001 at 14:53:41:

Yes, Mike, basically that is what I am saying. Further, though, the human genome discoveries are saying that the messages that nutrients are to the genes are maximally coherent when the "sugars", for example, are accompanied by those micronutrients with which they were naturally created.

There may be some mechanism, of which I am not acquainted, that helps something when these sugars are taken together. That makes no sense to me, though, since they are all produced in the body, by the body, and do not need to be ingested at all.

It will be interesting to see if this stuff is still on the market in 10-15 years. My bias is that they will make somebody a lot of money, based totally upon the effectiveness of the advertizing, before they are found to be worthless.

Walt

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