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Selling sickness

Posted by Ron [205.1989] on July 30, 2005 at 12:45:50:

Hi All,

I am impressed by an Australian journalist who has written a book called "Selling Sickness" (Ray Moynihan)
(How Drug Companies Are Turning Us All Into Patients)

One of his comparisons shows how a child who is simply shy can be diagnosed with Social Anxiety Disorder and can be prescribed meds to fix what is normal for that child.

A similar problem seems to be in prescribing erectile disfunction meds to men who don't have a problem...
Have you noticed how the ads are shown with younger and younger men who are with desireable women?
What ever happened to the ads which showed someone in their 60's with a similar aged woman?

Doctors are being influenced by patients who have seen a drug ad and insist that they be given the med. Rather than be shunned by their patient, they write the prescription and invest in the drug company.

It is a self-fullfilling prophecy, since many of these meds have side effects which eventually cause the patient to
see their doctor again.

I heard this on a National Public Radio this afternoon so, it isn't a republican plot.



Re: Selling sickness (Preface and details)

Posted by Ron [205.1989] on July 30, 2005 at 12:55:03:

In Reply to: Selling sickness posted by Ron [205.1989] on July 30, 2005 at 12:45:50:

Here is a bit more to show where this book is coming from


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Re: Selling sickness

Posted by Naya [120.14] on July 30, 2005 at 15:29:02:

In Reply to: Selling sickness posted by Ron [205.1989] on July 30, 2005 at 12:45:50:

Hi Ron! This is obviously an increasing and frightening trend. The docs are in league with the big pharma companies - whether you think that's a liberal opinion or not.

Naya

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Re: Selling sickness

Posted by lissa [2032.39] on July 30, 2005 at 18:27:55:

In Reply to: Selling sickness posted by Ron [205.1989] on July 30, 2005 at 12:45:50:

Thanks Ron.

I agree with Naya except that I don't know if it is the docs per se, or their employers. If they are willing to go along with it then, they would be just as guilty anyway, but wouldn't it be a dilemma to spend so many years of your life with high hopes of helping people and then getting there and finding out what is really going on.......

Oh wait that happens every day to people who aren't doctors but anyway, yes it is a problem.



Re: Selling sickness

Posted by Ron [1540.1989] on July 30, 2005 at 23:07:56:

In Reply to: Re: Selling sickness posted by lissa [2032.39] on July 30, 2005 at 18:27:55:

Hi Lissa,

I wonder if the docs at an HMO treat patients differently than a doc with his own practice.



Re: Selling sickness

Posted by June.one [1181.2150] on July 30, 2005 at 23:27:29:

In Reply to: Selling sickness posted by Ron [205.1989] on July 30, 2005 at 12:45:50:

I hate to see this kind of thing, especially for children. My 11 year old neighbor was just "diagnosed" with panic attacks and his doc's first line of treatment was to put him on Effexor! Of course since I know EVERYTHING (that's a joke, people) I think he should try some cognitive behavioral therapy. Instead he's on a med that he has to take every day for a problem that bothers him only occasionally. He seems very healthy and he's just too young to take a powerful drug like that for an intermittent problem. I told him he should learn the "thought stopping" technique. But I guess I have to keep my mouth shut to his parents about his doctor labeling his so-called illness and drugging him. I guess the main problem is that so many people are like his parents in that they buy into the doctor selling them on some "sickness"

Ron, what NPR program were you listening to? And do you know if the book is available in paperback?



Re: Selling sickness

Posted by Ron [1540.1989] on July 30, 2005 at 23:54:56:

In Reply to: Re: Selling sickness posted by June.one [1181.2150] on July 30, 2005 at 23:27:29:

Hi June,

I was listening to the station in Buffalo, but the source of the program was another state.. That station picks program segments from all across the country.
http://www.wned.org/default.asp


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Re: Selling sickness REFERENCE Archive in monopoly.

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on July 31, 2005 at 06:53:09:

In Reply to: Selling sickness posted by Ron [205.1989] on July 30, 2005 at 12:45:50:

Thanks, Ron.

'Bout time some of this is getting out in the mass media!

Walt



Re: Selling sickness

Posted by lissa [2032.39] on July 31, 2005 at 08:34:45:

In Reply to: Re: Selling sickness posted by Ron [1540.1989] on July 30, 2005 at 23:07:56:

Of course they do.

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Re: Selling sickness REFERENCE Archive in monopoly.

Posted by Ron [2014.1989] on July 31, 2005 at 09:56:46:

In Reply to: Re: Selling sickness REFERENCE Archive in monopoly. posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on July 31, 2005 at 06:53:09:

Hi Walt,

Those who have found the Australian accent and "shrimp on the barbie" to be so quaint and likable are now attuned to what their people have to say.
Hopefully, the Americas will take this information to heart and not ignore the obvious much longer.

Big Pharma could be in for a rude awakening when the consumer backlash takes place.

Maybe we will even stop seeing those satelite channel drug ads for Erectile Disfunction on the televisions in the waiting rooms. Bugs Bunny is much more believeable.

Ehhhh!!! What's "UP" Doc? ;>)



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