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Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board)

Posted by
Mona [2209.3349] on January 07, 2009 at 15:08:26:

Dear Dr. Stoll. I hope you will remember my original post about this. I went to add the update to the original post but it was no longer available.

My husband had been diagnosed in March or April '08 with goute, that was diagnosed by blood test only. He was prescribed Allipurinol and was to take it daily, which he did, and continued to have "flare-ups" anyway. After reading your archives here, I decided to go to an appointment with him, and ask for the 24 hour urine test in order to have a proper diagnosis made to ensure it was Goute, or to try and narrow it down to something else, if not. He went off the Allipurinol November 15, made an appointment for December 16. The doctor did not care for the fact that I mentioned I had been reading up on it, and that I felt a 24 hour urine test should be done. He took blood, and tested for Rhumatoid. We went back today for those results.

When we went in to the appointment, the doctor read from the chart, the previous problems, but never even mentioned the blood results until I asked. He then said it was negative for Rhumatoid, and that it still showed he had the higher than normal uric acid levels. He basically dismissed it and said on the next flare-up when the joint was very swollen, to come in and they would tap for the uric crystals from the joint fluid. He also did mention putting him in contact with an arthritis specialist.

Then I asked if he would run the 24 hour urine test, so we could in the meantime, rule the goute in or out, one way or the other, he insisted that the blood says he has goute, and when I mentioned that blood alone is not an accurate means of diagnosis, he became quite defensive. He said he will NOT run the test, and when I asked him "why not?" (seeking a medical explanation) all I got was a "Because I don't want to". I asked why I was so wrong in trying to help my husband by trying to alleviate some unnessecary pain by doing the test, and he said "session over", and got up and excused himself and left the room!!

Needless to say, I we were both very unimpressed with the childlike response we got from out so-called "professional" doctor! He also told us to find another doctor. I really feel that this was totally uncalled for and very unprofessional!


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Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board)

Posted by Steve [10433.3394] on January 07, 2009 at 15:28:21:

In Reply to: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board) posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 07, 2009 at 15:08:26:

Yes it was and you should report it and do what he said, " find another doctor."

Silver Fox!


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Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board)

Posted by AT [11797.4426] on January 07, 2009 at 16:23:23:

In Reply to: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board) posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 07, 2009 at 15:08:26:

EGO EGO EGO and not all that surprising but very upsetting. Actually there is an ethical problem called doctor abandonment that might cause him to rethink this. Can your insurer point you somewhere to report this.


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Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post,. Archive in monopoly

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.4968] on January 07, 2009 at 16:38:36:

In Reply to: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board) posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 07, 2009 at 15:08:26:

Thanks, Mona.

I remember you well. Your "doc" was taught, in medical school, that the 24 hour urine test was the best diagnostic procedure for goute unless he slept through that lecture (along with probably many more). I guess he did not like being reminded that he has a license to kill without getting any make up education.

He finally, however, has given you both good advice: "Find another doctor!" In my opinion, this guy is probably not competent to be a janitor. Just be thankful that your husband did not still have this doc if he was called upon for advice in a life threatening situation. This is a warning to get away from this charlatan before it is too late.

If he were MY physician, I would refuse to pay the last two appointments and, if he sent me another bill, post an official complaint to the local Medical Society AND the Medical State Licensing Board, explaining the exact thing you described here. You might send this dufo a copy of the complaints you are sending to the officials even if he does not send you another bill. Get copies of all his records to have at home and take those records, in your hand, when you go to the new doc. If the current doc gives you any grief about giving you the records you can add that fact to the above when you officially complain: he cannot legally do that! I am sure that he is not very secure about the ignorance he is showing in his records. As a matter of fact, he probably did not put anything about this IN your husband's records!

Good luck! These kinds of "uncovering professional arrogance and ignorance" situations are always unpleasant but you will be much happier with a knowledgeable and professional physician which you do not presently have, in my opinion.

Walt


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Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post,. Archive in monopoly

Posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 08, 2009 at 09:00:43:

In Reply to: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post,. Archive in monopoly posted by Walt Stoll [93.4968] on January 07, 2009 at 16:38:36:

Yes, believe me, we will be using a different doctor! And, on the bright side, he is going to refer my husband to an arthritis specialist. I stopped at the desk on our way out to ask if he was going to do that or not. She looked at the chart (all on computers) and said he had not entered anything, so she didn't know what his plans were. I then told her the doctor left the room ticked off, and just left us sitting there not really knowing what just happened. I asked her to double check with him to see if he was still planning on making the referral, and she went and asked the doctor and said yes.

I live in Ontario, Canada, so we have our health coverage provided,(no money out of pocket to us for each visit) BUT, I was still upset to think the government has to now pay for this office visit when we did not even get answers to our questions! I do want to report him. Probably nothing will ever be done about it, but at least they will contact him to let him know a complaint has been filed, and perhaps he'll think twice before he does this to someone else in the future that questions his reasoning.

Thanks for your support, help and suggestions!



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Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board)

Posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 08, 2009 at 09:04:52:

In Reply to: Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board) posted by AT [11797.4426] on January 07, 2009 at 16:23:23:

Thanks for the suggestion! I can certainly mention it in my letter. I think I can report him to the Ontario Medical Association.


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Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board)

Posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 08, 2009 at 09:06:19:

In Reply to: Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board) posted by Steve [10433.3394] on January 07, 2009 at 15:28:21:

Thanks, we sure will be finding another Doctor! We lost all respect we had for him in that one visit!


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Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board)

Posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 08, 2009 at 09:21:51:

In Reply to: Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board) posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 08, 2009 at 09:04:52:

Just did a little searching on the internet and found exactly what I was looking for! (see link) This is even for my province!



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Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post,. Archive in monopoly

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.4968] on January 08, 2009 at 12:57:25:

In Reply to: Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post,. Archive in monopoly posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 08, 2009 at 09:00:43:

Thanks, Mona.

Remember, docs with this kind of attitude will refer you to a specialist who is much like him in attitude and with a comparative level of knowledge. After all, he would not want to be made to look bad.

Walt


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Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board)

Posted by Charles [448.2996] on January 08, 2009 at 18:10:10:

In Reply to: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board) posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 07, 2009 at 15:08:26:

Mona

You should consider putting hot tobacco on one of his joints that he has problems with.

Gout activities for Nicotiana tabacum

Analgesic - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Analgesic - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Analgesic - CHLOROGENIC-ACID. Leaf.
Analgesic - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Analgesic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Analgesic - FERULIC-ACID. Flower.
Analgesic - NICOTINE. Leaf. [20000 - 40000 ppm.]
Analgesic - PHENOL. Leaf.
Analgesic - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Analgesic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Analgesic - SHIKIMIC-ACID. Leaf.
Analgesic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Anesthetic - BENZOIC-ACID. Leaf.
Anesthetic - ETHANOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - ETHANOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - PHENOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antiedemic - 4-VINYL-GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - BETA-SITOSTEROL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiedemic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - QUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antiedemic - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antiedemic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - 4-VINYL-GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - BETA-SITOSTEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - CHLOROGENIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - CYCLOARTENOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - FERULIC-ACID. Flower.
Antiinflammatory - ISOEUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - ISOQUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - LINOLEIC-ACID. Seed. [50000 - 70000 ppm.]
Antiinflammatory - OLEIC-ACID. Seed. [62500 - 122500 ppm.]
Antiinflammatory - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antiinflammatory - QUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - STIGMASTEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - ISOQUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antinociceptive - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - STIGMASTEROL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - BETA-CAROTENE. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - EUGENOL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - EUGENOL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Cyclooxygenase-Inhibitor - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Cyclooxygenase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Uricosuric - BENZOIC-ACID. Leaf.
Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.

If he has arthritis tobacco can handle that as well, I've seen it do it.

Arthritis activities for Nicotiana tabacum

Analgesic - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Analgesic - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Analgesic - CHLOROGENIC-ACID. Leaf.
Analgesic - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Analgesic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Analgesic - FERULIC-ACID. Flower.
Analgesic - NICOTINE. Leaf. [20000 - 40000 ppm.]
Analgesic - PHENOL. Leaf.
Analgesic - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Analgesic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Analgesic - SHIKIMIC-ACID. Leaf.
Analgesic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Anesthetic - BENZOIC-ACID. Leaf.
Anesthetic - ETHANOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - ETHANOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - PHENOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antiarthritic - BETA-CAROTENE. Leaf.
Antiarthritic - LINOLEIC-ACID. Seed. [50000 - 70000 ppm.]
Antiarthritic - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antiarthritic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Antidermatitic - FUMARIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antidermatitic - GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Antidermatitic - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antidermatitic - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antidermatitic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - 4-VINYL-GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - BETA-SITOSTEROL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiedemic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - QUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antiedemic - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antiedemic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - 4-VINYL-GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - BETA-SITOSTEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - CHLOROGENIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - CYCLOARTENOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - FERULIC-ACID. Flower.
Antiinflammatory - ISOEUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - ISOQUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - LINOLEIC-ACID. Seed. [50000 - 70000 ppm.]
Antiinflammatory - OLEIC-ACID. Seed. [62500 - 122500 ppm.]
Antiinflammatory - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antiinflammatory - QUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - STIGMASTEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - ISOQUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antinociceptive - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - STIGMASTEROL. Leaf.
Antiosteoarthritic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Antiprostaglandin - 4-VINYL-GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Antiprostaglandin - BETA-SITOSTEROL. Leaf.
Antiprostaglandin - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiprostaglandin - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiprostaglandin - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiprostaglandin - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antirheumatic - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Antirheumatic - BETA-CAROTENE. Leaf.
Antirheumatic - CYCLOARTENOL. Leaf.
Antirheumatic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - FERULIC-ACID. Flower.
Antispasmodic - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - P-COUMARIC-ACID. Flower.
Antispasmodic - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antispasmodic - QUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - SHIKIMIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - BETA-CAROTENE. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - EUGENOL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - EUGENOL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Counterirritant - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Counterirritant - FORMIC-ACID. Leaf.
Cyclooxygenase-Inhibitor - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Cyclooxygenase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - CHLOROGENIC-ACID. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - P-COUMARIC-ACID. Flower.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - RUTIN. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - (-)-ANABASINE. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - ANABASINE. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - RUTIN. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.

Tobacco is actually stronger against RA than it is against regular arthritis.

Antirheumatic 2-5 mg/man
Antiosteoarthritic
Antiarthritic

Scotch snuff would be easier to use, it is fine ground tobacco.


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Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board)

Posted by Charles [448.2996] on January 08, 2009 at 18:10:12:

In Reply to: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post, now gone from board) posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 07, 2009 at 15:08:26:

Mona

You should consider putting hot tobacco on one of his joints that he has problems with.

Gout activities for Nicotiana tabacum

Analgesic - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Analgesic - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Analgesic - CHLOROGENIC-ACID. Leaf.
Analgesic - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Analgesic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Analgesic - FERULIC-ACID. Flower.
Analgesic - NICOTINE. Leaf. [20000 - 40000 ppm.]
Analgesic - PHENOL. Leaf.
Analgesic - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Analgesic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Analgesic - SHIKIMIC-ACID. Leaf.
Analgesic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Anesthetic - BENZOIC-ACID. Leaf.
Anesthetic - ETHANOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - ETHANOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - PHENOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antiedemic - 4-VINYL-GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - BETA-SITOSTEROL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiedemic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - QUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antiedemic - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antiedemic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - 4-VINYL-GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - BETA-SITOSTEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - CHLOROGENIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - CYCLOARTENOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - FERULIC-ACID. Flower.
Antiinflammatory - ISOEUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - ISOQUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - LINOLEIC-ACID. Seed. [50000 - 70000 ppm.]
Antiinflammatory - OLEIC-ACID. Seed. [62500 - 122500 ppm.]
Antiinflammatory - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antiinflammatory - QUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - STIGMASTEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - ISOQUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antinociceptive - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - STIGMASTEROL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - BETA-CAROTENE. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - EUGENOL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - EUGENOL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Cyclooxygenase-Inhibitor - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Cyclooxygenase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Uricosuric - BENZOIC-ACID. Leaf.
Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.

If he has arthritis tobacco can handle that as well, I've seen it do it.

Arthritis activities for Nicotiana tabacum

Analgesic - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Analgesic - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Analgesic - CHLOROGENIC-ACID. Leaf.
Analgesic - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Analgesic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Analgesic - FERULIC-ACID. Flower.
Analgesic - NICOTINE. Leaf. [20000 - 40000 ppm.]
Analgesic - PHENOL. Leaf.
Analgesic - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Analgesic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Analgesic - SHIKIMIC-ACID. Leaf.
Analgesic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Anesthetic - BENZOIC-ACID. Leaf.
Anesthetic - ETHANOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - ETHANOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - PHENOL. Leaf.
Anesthetic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antiarthritic - BETA-CAROTENE. Leaf.
Antiarthritic - LINOLEIC-ACID. Seed. [50000 - 70000 ppm.]
Antiarthritic - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antiarthritic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Antidermatitic - FUMARIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antidermatitic - GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Antidermatitic - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antidermatitic - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antidermatitic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - 4-VINYL-GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - BETA-SITOSTEROL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiedemic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiedemic - QUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antiedemic - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antiedemic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - 4-VINYL-GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - BETA-SITOSTEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - CHLOROGENIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - CYCLOARTENOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - FERULIC-ACID. Flower.
Antiinflammatory - ISOEUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - ISOQUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - LINOLEIC-ACID. Seed. [50000 - 70000 ppm.]
Antiinflammatory - OLEIC-ACID. Seed. [62500 - 122500 ppm.]
Antiinflammatory - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antiinflammatory - QUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - STIGMASTEROL. Leaf.
Antiinflammatory - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - ISOQUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antinociceptive - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antinociceptive - STIGMASTEROL. Leaf.
Antiosteoarthritic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Antiprostaglandin - 4-VINYL-GUAIACOL. Leaf.
Antiprostaglandin - BETA-SITOSTEROL. Leaf.
Antiprostaglandin - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antiprostaglandin - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiprostaglandin - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antiprostaglandin - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antirheumatic - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Antirheumatic - BETA-CAROTENE. Leaf.
Antirheumatic - CYCLOARTENOL. Leaf.
Antirheumatic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - EUGENOL. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - FERULIC-ACID. Flower.
Antispasmodic - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - P-COUMARIC-ACID. Flower.
Antispasmodic - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Antispasmodic - QUERCITRIN. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - RUTIN. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - SHIKIMIC-ACID. Leaf.
Antispasmodic - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - BETA-CAROTENE. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - EUGENOL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - EUGENOL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
COX-2-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Counterirritant - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Counterirritant - FORMIC-ACID. Leaf.
Cyclooxygenase-Inhibitor - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Cyclooxygenase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - CAFFEIC-ACID. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - CHLOROGENIC-ACID. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - KAEMPFEROL. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - P-COUMARIC-ACID. Flower.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - QUERCETIN. Flower.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - RUTIN. Leaf.
Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor - TOCOPHEROL. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - (-)-ANABASINE. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - 1,8-CINEOLE. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - AESCULETIN. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - ANABASINE. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - ESCULETIN. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - RUTIN. Leaf.
Myorelaxant - SCOPOLETIN. Leaf.

Tobacco is actually stronger against RA than it is against regular arthritis.

Antirheumatic 2-5 mg/man
Antiosteoarthritic
Antiarthritic

Scotch snuff would be easier to use, it is fine ground tobacco.


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Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post,. Archive in monopoly

Posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 09, 2009 at 09:26:32:

In Reply to: Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post,. Archive in monopoly posted by Walt Stoll [93.4968] on January 08, 2009 at 12:57:25:

LOL! Yes, I thought about that too! I actually got a call from the clinic this morning. They want hubby to go in for xrays (must be needed for the referral) and also bloodwork for pseudo goute?? Ever heard of it?


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Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post,. Archive in monopoly

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.4968] on January 10, 2009 at 07:46:47:

In Reply to: Re: Goute and the 24 HR Urine Test (follow-up to original post,. Archive in monopoly posted by Mona [2209.3349] on January 09, 2009 at 09:26:32:

Hi, Mona.

Thanks for my chuckle for the day! ANYTHING but order a 24 hour urine test for true goute. To MY knowledge, that is the cheapest and most accurate way to differentiate between "pseudo goute" and real goute. BUT, since YOU suggested it this charlatan will run you through anything BUT actually ordering it. In my opinion, you are well away from this psycho.

Walt


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