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Parasites / Dr Stoll

Posted by SR- on December 03, 1999 at 17:42:12:

Dr. Stoll
I understand your mention, of how a healthy intestinal tract .. all 20 plus feet of it, would not allow any Parasitic colonizations, from Worms to Candida, etc....
Even if we drank a glass full of the critters everyday.....

To fully understand this... if a person has Worms or Giardia or Candida or Bacteria etc... which are living inside of the intestinal / gut lining tract, thereby assaulting and disturbing the gut lining itself, causing dysbiosis and further being the actual main causative factor of L G S Holes; not inclusive of being over stressed and over antibiotic-ed, new word.. ha ha.. would it not be prudent to at least eliminate such gut lining invaders, so as to allow the gut lining to repair itself, without such hourly assaults from the numerous types and numbers of possible parasites.

The main reason I am going over this in full is to get a full grasp on this subject.

Moreover...I had a DR. way back in 1990, who treated Candida and Parasites, although he was mostly experimenting at that time and i did not continue with his treatments.
Under any circumstances, that Dr. was under the opinion that both L G S and Candida, would never be cured, unless the gut lining was able to repair itself by sealing up the gut lining holes and also MOST IMPORTANTLY he said,was to recolonize the entire intestinal tract with the friendly PROBIOTIC flora bacterias.

The GOOD flora, he said, was the first and possibly the ONLY line of defense to stop LGS and Parasites and Candida and all the other numerous dysbiosis candidates....

Interestingly , he stated that a healthy individual should have between 3 to 5 pounds of these friendly flora protector colonies / probiotic culture colonies,permanently living and lining the gut walls, all through life.

He further stated, of course I am paraphrasing this entire article / post .. that it is impossible to reimplant and recolonize the intestinal tract, in order to reach the necessary curative flora numbers / 3 to 5 pounds of active living / permanently established cultures, without
FIRST ELIMINATING as much of the Candida and Parasites as possible....which are also lining the gut walls.

Accordingly, such unwelcome and unfriendly invaders may be inhabiting and assaulting the gut lining walls themselves.. and it is imperative that the intestinal gut walls are to be as free as possible, from whatever assualtive invaders are causing the Probiotics to NOT BE ABLE to attach themselves to the gut lining walls.
If Probiotics cultures are not able to get a chance to adhere to the gut walls, due to assaultive enemies of parasites and or candida, such probiotics will never be able to gain any significant footholds on any part or parts of the gut lining and be able set up house and beging to establish themselves in adequate defensive numbers.

Bottom line in all this is that, he thought LGS and Candida would NOT BE CURED unless Probitics were allowed to set up house in adequate numbers and that he thought such friendly probiotics being able to adequately establish themselves would also be impossible, without first getting rid of as much candida and parasites in the gut as possible, FIRST..?


Just another opinion and something to consider & ponder....
I hope it all made some sense....
Now, if we just had a surefire antiparasitic, as well as, a scientifically proven Probiotic that was guaranteed to repopulate and colonize itself, in the 3 to 5 pound range, even long after stopping the flora product itself.
I personally have not found either one yet..
Thank you Dr. Stoll
Respectfully,
SR



Re: Parasites / Dr Stoll (Archive under parasites.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 04, 1999 at 11:22:28:

In Reply to: Parasites / Dr Stoll posted by SR- on December 03, 1999 at 17:42:12:

Thanks, SR.

NOW, think about this:

Nine out of ten of the cells in our bodies are not human. They are bacterial, parasitic, etc. We are really just a web of human cells holding together a huge colony of organisms that work together to keep us all healthy. "Do we live for them or do they live for us?"

EVEN our human cells are not totally human. Our mitochondria are little aliens that are parasitic to our cells and without them we could not survive.

It is true that this is all related as a vicious cycle. One just has to choose the best place to interrupt that cycle in order to get well with the least amount of cost in time, money and effort.

Walt




As Above so Below (and vice versa)

Posted by
John Counts on December 05, 1999 at 02:09:35:

In Reply to: Re: Parasites / Dr Stoll (Archive under parasites.) posted by Walt Stoll on December 04, 1999 at 11:22:28:

Walt,

Very Interesting concept.

My Sufi Sheikh taught a similar concept about the mind (conciousness).

What we think of as our 'own' thoughts (conciousness) is really the thoughts (conciousness) of Jinns, Faries, Demons, Ghosts, Angels etc. All of these have the soul (nature) of Earth (attachment), Water(desire), fire(ego), or Air(intellect). The only authentic human conciousness is that of the soul, which has it's essence or nature as light or pure conciousness which is connected to God (or truth, reality however you want to conceptualize that which is beyond concetions).

sorry to go off topic, but what you said reminded me of this.

Regards,
John



Re: Sounds like Star Wars, Part I to me

Posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on December 05, 1999 at 07:07:44:

In Reply to: Re: Parasites / Dr Stoll (Archive under parasites.) posted by Walt Stoll on December 04, 1999 at 11:22:28:

Walt said: Our mitochondria are little aliens that are parasitic to our cells and without them we could not survive.

This sounds like the explanation given in Star Wars, Part I about the mitochondria (or something similar) that explained The Force.

I thought they made it up! :-)

Perhaps truth IS stranger than fiction.

RHJ++



"We have met the enemy, and he is us." Pogo, circa Y1.958K

Posted by Jim H. on December 05, 1999 at 09:43:53:

In Reply to: Re: Parasites / Dr Stoll (Archive under parasites.) posted by Walt Stoll on December 04, 1999 at 11:22:28:

Walt,

So, then, cancer in humans could be a metaphor for the proliferation of the toxic mankind organism on the body Earth. Maybe we can agree on a cure in the next millennium.

Currently conceived conventional treatments for Earth (killing the cancerous organism)

1. Radiation (nuclear war, EM fields, tanning salons )
2. Chemotherapy (pollution, processed food, conventional medicine)
3. Surgery (ethnic cleansing, limited police actions, and mass murder by any other name)
4. Denial (always a choice) (current standard)
5. ?

Or alternative healing practices:

1. Voluntarily limit population (raise consciousness)
2. Clean the environment (raise consciousness)
3. Recognize and honor our interdependence with other life forms (raise consciousness)
4. Live in the Spirit (raise consciousness)
(help me out here, there seems to be a common thread)
5.
6.
7.

Or Earth dies….and with it, the cancer….us.

Jim



Re: "We have met the enemy, and he is us." Pogo, circa Y1.958K

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 05, 1999 at 11:00:29:

In Reply to: "We have met the enemy, and he is us." Pogo, circa Y1.958K posted by Jim H. on December 05, 1999 at 09:43:53:

Thanks, Jim.

My thinking EXACTLY. I have been forced to thinking this way within the past 20 years. GAIA will do her thing and we are but parasites upon her. We either transcend our shortsighted policies or perish.

Namaste`

Walt



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