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Hi Dr. Stoll,
I have searched the archives and believe I came across a post saying that if a person has LGS and Candida, in all probability that person has parasites too (?)
I re-searched for that post and can't seem to find it again, thus the reason for this question. Sorry if the answer is out in the archives, and I just can't seem to locate it.
Thank you in advance for your time.
Chris
In Reply to: Question on LGS,Candida, and Parasites posted by Christine on July 02, 2000 at 12:04:31:
Hi, Chris.
The average person in this culture has at least several parasites living in their bowel. The CDC (Center for Disease Control in Atlanta) did a study about 10 years ago that found that the average person handling your fresh produce at the grocery store had 5 parasites found by the even the poor diagnostic techniques we have in this country.
ANYONE with LGS (75% of the population now) has NO protection from parasites setting up housekeeping in the dysbiotic bowel. Candida is just one of these parasites.
If you sent about 6 purged stool specimens to Great Smokies Labs, you would have a pretty good chance of finding most of the ones you have. A negative result is of little value. A positive reesult is 100% accurate since the parasite would have to be actually seen for it to be positive. To find them more accurately you would have to send your specimen to the state labs in Niger, Africa--currently considered the best in the world.
Hope this helps.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Question on LGS,Candida, and Parasites (Archive) posted by Walt Stoll on July 03, 2000 at 08:58:58:
Thank you very much for the information. Could either parasites or Candida be the reason I am hungry all the time? I feel hungry (or my mouth does) even as little as one hour after a good size meal. Even if my stomach feels full, I get a sensation in my mouth that I am hungry - hope this make sense.
Thanks again for all your time.
Chris
In Reply to: Thanks Dr. Stoll - one more quick question please posted by Christine on July 03, 2000 at 09:51:00:
Possible, Chris.
However more likely, in THIS country, would be food hypersensitivities due to the LGS that allows the parasites to flourish.
Making sense?
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Thanks Dr. Stoll - one more quick question please posted by Walt Stoll on July 04, 2000 at 08:58:12:
So in a nutshell, what you are saying to Chris is that if
you get rid of the LGS by doing the three legged stool, this
will get rid of the parasites (At least the most common kind
of parasites in this country)?
There aren't any other speacial drugs (like nystatin for
yeast) that are used as treatment for these kind of parasites,
are there? Thanks, Ann.
In Reply to: Walt --no LGS, no parasites? posted by Ann on July 06, 2000 at 01:57:26:
Ann,
Does it seem like I'm always "butting in" with your questions??? :-)
I believe what happens is, if you have LGS, you are more likely to GET parasites. Once you have them, it may very well be necessary to use anti-parasitic drugs to get rid of them (like you really have to use nystatin or another anti-fungal to actually KILL the yeast).
Of course, if you still have the LGS, they are also very likely to come back.
By using the wellness stool, you get rid of LGS, which in turn makes it easy to get and STAY rid of fungal and parasitic infections.
Avoiding getting LGS in the first place would keep us healthy and able to stay free of fungus and parasites to begin with. So on this level, no LGS = no parasites.
I am sure Walt will have something to add to this simple description.
hope this helps...
trish
In Reply to: Re: Walt --no LGS, no parasites? posted by trish on July 06, 2000 at 19:59:28:
Thanks for the info. Basically if nystatin and wellness
stoll do not work, THEN be under suspicion of a parasite.
Today is the first day since about two weeks that I have
finally felt better again. I think part of it was die of,
being that exactly seven days ago I started taking the
powdered nystatin.
The reason I was curious about parasites is because way
back last November I went to a nutritionist to try to get
help. A girl I worked with who had a horrible yeast problem
reccomended this woman. I went there and filled out a candita
questionaire, scoring above and beyond what constituted as
grounds for a yeast problem.
She made out a meal plan for me and gave me a bunch of
supplements, but then things took a turn for the worse...
She proceeded to take out a danglinf crystal and had me spit
into a kleenix and place the tissue on a board with a circular
chart on it. She dangled the crystal above this circle and
asked it questions like, "Does Ann have a parasite?"
Anyway, this method of hers seemed to say I did have a
parasite. She said I have hookworm and I am completely
malnurished. She gave me a diet that would supposedly kill
both the candita as well as the parasite.
Trish, do you know if it is possible to kill a parasite
with diet alone, or does every parasite require special drugs?
Strangely enough, I WAS doing better on her diet, but that
was before I developed my food sensitivities, so I'm sure any
whole foods diet would have made me feel better!
Okay, didn't mean to make this so long. See you tomorrow
for SR club. --Ann.
In Reply to: Trish --Please butt in anytime! posted by Ann on July 07, 2000 at 02:00:15:
Reminds me of Hanna Kroeger (herbalist/healer/CEO of vitamin company) at whose retreat I spent a week many years ago. She too used some "unusual" diagonistic procedures for different ailments, some of which were a little far out for me!
I think the important thing is to always observe your body's reaction to any treatment. As for me, if something works, no matter how strange it may be, that's all that matters. Which brings me to the much maligned "placebo" factor. If my "imagination or belief in a certain herb or unorthodox treatment" makes me well, what's wrong with that? The only one missing out here, I guess, is the drug companies or medical profession. Naive, perhaps, but that's the way I feel about it.
Rosemarie
In Reply to: Walt --no LGS, no parasites? posted by Ann on July 06, 2000 at 01:57:26:
Hi, Ann.
Without LGS one cannot GET parasites. HOWEVER, once they are established, just getting rid of the LGS likely will NOT be enough to get rid of them (because they ARE established). There are specific drugs that are effective against each specifuc parasite. They are pretty toxic but still may need to be used.
MY statement is that the toxic drugs should never BE used until the LGS has ben resolved since the treated parasite almost always recurs following treatment if the LGS is still present.
Hope this helps.
Walt
In Reply to: Trish --Please butt in anytime! posted by Ann on July 07, 2000 at 02:00:15:
Thanks, Ann! Good to know I'm not "bugging" you ;-).
I have heard of using garlic and of course, artemesia (sp?) which is also called wormwood, to kill parasites, but I don't know for certain if it works, or if diet alone can kill them off. It does not seem likely to me, though.
I think it's a great observation on your part about any whole foods diet improving your health - often people are sort of misled by this, thinking that the particular foods made them feel better, when in fact, ANY improvement would have done it!
be well,
trish
In Reply to: Re: Trish --Please butt in anytime! posted by Rosemarie on July 07, 2000 at 10:17:23:
when I first started learning about wellness, I read one of Andrew Weil's books and he discussed the placebo effect in a very postitive light, saying that THAT was the body healing itself - true healing. Sounded good to me :-)
be well,
trish
In Reply to: Re: Trish --Please butt in anytime! posted by Rosemarie on July 07, 2000 at 10:17:23:
I couldn't agree more with you on that. (Although I never really
believed her about the hookworm!) Who knows, maybe I should...
We'll find out.
In Reply to: Re: Walt --no LGS, no parasites? (Archive) posted by Walt Stoll on July 07, 2000 at 11:59:45:
In Reply to: Re: Walt --no LGS, no parasites? posted by trish on July 06, 2000 at 19:59:28:
I'm sorry, but I don't believe the placebo effect holds up on all grounds. I've read lots of research studies and it is usually, but not always, a small percentage of people who do as well with whatever is being used as the placebo, whether it be herbs as opposed to prescription medicine or just sugar pills. Occasionally there is an equal affect, but I really think if you believe or are taught to believe only prescription medicines work best, then I think the herbs may not work as well for you, or you think they don't because you're use to sick stomachs (side effects) and the alternative methods are usually more subtle but can be just as good. It seems though, that herbs and alternative treatments work well, just slower and I think the patient is just not taking them long enough. Also, individual body chemistry. I work with developmentally disabled and I know that a lot of doctors prescribe Benedryl for sleeping. Well, there are a few that it has a reverse effect. You just never know about these things. You have to be careful about your herbs. Know about what you are taking and the quality and if you can mix them and if you can mix them with prescription drugs. Someone asked somewhere else on the BB if garlic was a blood thinner and there have been warnings not to take large quantities of it with Ginko Biloba because they thin the blood. Sensitive people have had hemorrages. Jus know your stuff and find a great doctor like Dr. Stoll. Sorry if I got off the subject matter, but I just had someting to say.
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