Pilonidal Cysts historical posts July 1998

Sebacious cysts

Posted by Renee on July 15, 1998 at 19:45:29:

For over a year now I have been suffering from cysts. They are on the outside of my vagina. Since last July I have had them reoccur at least 20 times. I was on antibiotics and also had it drained. It went from one side to the other. It causes unbareable pain because it gets so large that it rubs against the other side and I can't sit, stand, walk, or lay down. I've tried hot baths. Every time it reoccurs, it's infected. About 2 months ago I had surgery to remove it and it's already back. I'm not really sure what my options are or what I should do. I would appreciate any information that you could give me or any advice.


Re: Sebacious cysts

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 16, 1998 at 11:25:23:

In Reply to: Sebacious cysts posted by Renee on July 15, 1998 at 19:45:29:

Dear Renee,

From your description, this is NOT recurrent sebaceous cysts. It is the reinfection of a gland at the opening of the vagina. There is only one on each side. ANY competent physician would know the difference. The only solution that I know of is surgical removal of both glands. ANY competent GYN would know exactly what to do. You will never miss them--except that your problem will be gone. Look in any anatomy book at the library. You will see it.

I will bet that, if your doc had this problem, it would have been solved years ago (sigh).

Let us know what you learn & how you do. It has been so long since I have seen one of these that I am blocking on the name of the gland. This is NOT an obscure diagnosis!

Walt



Bartholin's?(no message)

Posted by Jenny on July 16, 1998 at 12:34:25:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious cysts posted by Walt Stoll on July 16, 1998 at 11:25:23:

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Re: Sebacious cysts

Posted by DEL on July 16, 1998 at 23:47:28:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious cysts posted by Walt Stoll on July 16, 1998 at 11:25:23:

THE PROBLEM RENEE HAS SOUNDS LIKES THE ONE I HAVE A CYST THAT STARTED IN MY SCROTOM AREA AND WHEN IT STARTS IT SWELLS AND BECOMES VERY PAINFUL TO THE POINT WHERE I CAN'T WALK. I HAVE TO WAIT TILL IT BURST AND THIS SMELLY FLUID COMES OUT. I HAVE TALK TO DOCTORS THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. NOW IT IS STARTTING TO COME UP ON MY TAIL BONE. I NEED SOME ADVICE HELP PLEASE.


Re: Sebaceous cysts

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 17, 1998 at 10:31:55:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious cysts posted by Walt Stoll on July 16, 1998 at 11:25:23:

I remembered the name of the gland.

These are the Bartholin Glands and there is one on each side at the opening of the vagina.

Walt



Re: Sebacious cysts

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 17, 1998 at 11:52:55:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious cysts posted by DEL on July 16, 1998 at 23:47:28:

Dear DEL,

This is almost certainly a misplaced "PILONIDAL CYST". This is a congenital problem. I will bet that your docs just are not thinking of it since it is not in the usual place. Go to a competent general surgeon & tell him/her that you have a recurrent pilonidal cyst.

There is really no excuse for your present docs not realizing this diagnosis. It might have been hard the first time they "removed" it. They should have been suspicious the first time it recurred. They should not have done the surgery for the first recurrence till thsy were sure of the diagnosis. If they just sent the first removed tissue (specimen) to the lab for diagnosis, the lab would have told them the diagnosis and they would have revised their FIRST surgery. It surely was easy for me without even seeing you.

Without the surgeon knowing what this is, surgery will NEVER cure it and it will keep getting worse each time it is removed. Even knowing the diagnosis, it is only 50% curable by surgery.

Let us hope I am wrong. Let me know.

Walt



Re: Sebacious cysts

Posted by Kyra on July 17, 1998 at 16:35:29:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious cysts posted by Walt Stoll on July 16, 1998 at 11:25:23:


Dear Renee,

I had a similar problem with a recurrent Bartholin's cyst a number of years ago. I was living in a communal household of 10 folks at the time, along with the communal bathtub. I remember taking a bath right after one of my women housemates without cleaning out the tub first. Voila! My first of many subsequent Bartholin's cysts sprouted the next day like an unwelcome egg, to be followed by many more, always in the same place. Off to the Gyn I'd go, get the damned thing lanced, drained and Betadined, and then wait for the inevitable recurrence. Finally, some intuitive lightbulb went off in my head and I got rid of the cysts forever. The last time I had one, I let it swell until it burst spontaneously. I figured the lancing wasn't getting all the (never identified) bacterial muck out, so I might as well go for broke on my own. This cyst chose to explode while I was at the laundromat. It was an interesting dance back out to the car. Got home, cleaned out the bathtub thoroughly, and poured 2 entire containers of magnesium sulfate crystals (available at any drugstore) into the hottest bathwater I could tolerate. Made sure my hands were really clean, then forced myself to sit in the bath for an hour, putting pressure around the outside of the Bartholin's gland duct and squeezed out the rest of the goo. Then I kept things as aerated and dry as I could for the rest of the day. That's the end of the saga. I've never had another Bartholin's cyst again, and it's been probably a dozen years since the last one. All I can say is, it worked for me, although it's not exactly a standard method. Don't know what Walt would say about my antiseptic methodology :) Perhaps it was fool's luck.

Kyra



Re: Sebaceous cysts

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 18, 1998 at 11:49:36:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious cysts posted by Kyra on July 17, 1998 at 16:35:29:

Thanks, Kyra.

That would work for some people; especially those for which the scarring from the recurrent infections had not progressed too far. For those in which it doesn't work, removal of the damaged tissue is probably the only way.

Walt



Re: Sebacious cysts

Posted by Renee on July 20, 1998 at 08:23:49:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious cysts posted by Walt Stoll on July 16, 1998 at 11:25:23:

Thank you for your opinion and advice. It's been really hard trying to find ANY info about this and I'm a pretty intelligent person. I wasn't very happy with the doctor that I was seeing to treat this, for that and other reasons. I didn't have too much confidence in him. So, I made an appointment with another doctor, who was highly recommended. He's the chief of OBGYN at a local hospital. Hopefully, he'll be able to help. Thanks again for your help. I found this message board extremely helpful. I've been searching for info for a long time and here I found that info and so much more.


Re: Sebacious cysts

Posted by Renee on July 20, 1998 at 09:53:09:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious cysts posted by Walt Stoll on July 16, 1998 at 11:25:23:

How does the gland become infected? What are the signs or symptoms? How is it different than a sebacious cyst? Where could I find some information about this? I just had surgery 2 months ago to remove the cyst. If my problem is with the infected gland, does that mean the surgery was pointless?


Re: Sebacious cysts

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 21, 1998 at 10:20:57:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious cysts posted by Renee on July 20, 1998 at 08:23:49:

Dear Renee,

Glad to hear it. Please let us know what comes of this. Do not be afraid to share with your new doc what you have learned so far.

First impressions are valid here as well. Remember, docs are human too. If you come off as someone wanting to know, & that you already know something, s/he is likely to respect you more for your entire relationship.

Walt


Re: Sebaceous cysts (Bartholin's)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 21, 1998 at 10:46:14:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious cysts posted by Renee on July 20, 1998 at 09:53:09:

Dear Renee,

If this IS Bartholin's, and the gland was removed, your present surgery was curative since there is only one on each side.

IF the cystic portion was all that was removed, it probably will be back.

Once this gland gets infected the first time, the recurrances are usually due to damage to the duct that occurred the first time. That is why removal of the entire gland is the curative thing to do---not just draining the cyst.

Walt



Re: Sebacious cysts

Posted by DEL on July 25, 1998 at 07:09:23:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious cysts posted by Walt Stoll on July 17, 1998 at 11:52:55:

SCHEDULE FOR SURG TO REMOVE THIS 16 YEAR OLD PROBLEM THAT JUST WON'T GO AWAY, I PRAY THIS TIME IT WILL. I CANNOT BELIEVE I PASSED THIS HORRIFIC CYST TO MY WIFE WHEN I WOULDN'T WISH IT ON MY WORST ENEMY.
I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT LAST MESSAGE DOC, I DIDN'T SEE YOUR ANSWER. I THOUGHT YOU WERE DODGING ME LIKE MY DOCTORS I USED TO HAVE. THANKS FOR THE INFO.



Re: Sebacious Cyst

Posted by Elizabeth on July 16, 1998 at 13:44:29:


I have accidently found this site as I was looking for info on sebacious cysts. I have several small ones and a larger one on my scalp. Today I'm going to see if it should be removed. I don't really want to do this surgically as I will probably have my hair shaved in that spot. Are there any herbs that can shrink these cysts, instead of resorting to more radical procedures?


Re: Sebacious Cyst

Posted by Cindy on July 17, 1998 at 06:23:03:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious Cyst posted by Elizabeth on July 16, 1998 at 13:44:29:


I just had a cyst removed from my scalp and they did it surgically and it was not bad. They did not shave my head at all and it was the size of two peas and on the out side looked like it was about 3/4 an inch in width. I have 4 stitches but the doctor said it was better to remove it surgically as it would not go through a surange and it would grow back if all of it was not removed.


Re: Sebacious Cyst

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 17, 1998 at 10:53:55:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious Cyst posted by Elizabeth on July 16, 1998 at 13:44:29:

Dear Elizabeth,

I agree with Cindy & her doc. Once a cyst is as large as a pea, the mechanics of pressure prevent resolution by anything other than surgical removal of the damaged gland. You can insist that they do not shave anything. I have removed dozens of them without shaving. Shaving is for the convenience of the doc. ANY doc who has any of his/her own removed would insist that no shaving be done.

I am not a good enough Herbologist to advise you about any herb that might work. This site is linked to a herbologist who might be able to help. If you find a non-surgical solution, I would surely like to know about it.

Walt



sebaceous cyst

Posted by DEL on July 17, 1998 at 00:02:56:

I HAVE HAD A RECURRING CYST SINCE I WAS 19 IN MY SCROTOM AREA.IT IS VERY PAINFUL WHEN IT COMES UP. IT SWELLS AND IS VERY PAINFUL IF TOUCHED. IT TAKES ABOUT 5DAYS THEN IT COMES TO A HEAD AND BURSTS . SOME TYPE OF FLUID THAT IS REALLY SMELLY COMES OUT OF IT. I THOUGHT IT WAS GONE,BUT NOW IT IS COMING UP ON MY TAIL BONE ABOVE MY RECTUM.MY WIFE HAS ONE COMING UP ON HER NOW(ARE THEY TRANSFERABLE?).I DO NOT WANT HER TO SUFFER LIKE I HAVE WITH THIS CONDITION.I AM 37 NOW IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG NEED YOUR HELP PLEASE.


Re: sebaceous cyst

Posted by Maria Reez on July 17, 1998 at 02:39:55:

In Reply to: sebaceous cyst posted by DEL on July 17, 1998 at 00:02:56:

I just read the posting of DEL and I was curious about your answer...i have it too...is it contagious? I never had it un til I had contact with a former boyfriend who's frequently had boils since he was young....i started getting them after....how do you prevent this?

Please advise. Thank you.


Re: sebaceous cyst

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 18, 1998 at 10:16:18:

In Reply to: Re: sebaceous cyst posted by Maria Reez on July 17, 1998 at 02:39:55:

Dear Maria,

Unless this is migrating toward your tailbone, it is unlikely to be a displaced pilonidal cyst. Also, a DPC is not contagious as it is congenital.

Infections CAN be transmitted, though and anyone with recurrent sebaceous cysts would be susceptible to recurrent infections in these glands.

I would have to know more to help. However, the physician on the site should be able to listen to the history & take one look at an active lesion to easily make the diagnosis.

Walt



Re: sebaceous cyst

Posted by Kathy Joyce on July 24, 1998 at 01:25:14:

In Reply to: Re: sebaceous cyst posted by Maria Reez on July 17, 1998 at 02:39:55:

My doctor recommended that I scrub my affected area every day with Phisoderm on a Buff Puff. I have been doing this for one year now and it has worked wonders. I can honestly say I am blemish free now. I have not had a cyst since I began this treatment. I highly recommend you at least give it a try. I used to get these cysts all the time. They were very painful and distressing.



Re: sebaceous cyst

Posted by DEL on July 25, 1998 at 06:53:38:

In Reply to: sebaceous cyst posted by DEL on July 17, 1998 at 00:02:56:

I WAS LOOKING FOR SOME TYPE OF ADVICE, BUT YOU BYPASSED MY QUESTION. HAVE SEBACEOUS CYST EVER BEEN KNOWN TO TRANSFER FROM ONE PERSON TO ANOTHER BY CONTACT? IF THIS IS SOMETHING ONE IS BORN WITH WHY DID THIS CONDITION NOT EFFECT ME WHEN I WAS A CHILD?



Re: sebaceous cyst

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 25, 1998 at 07:40:12:

In Reply to: Re: sebaceous cyst posted by Kathy Joyce on July 24, 1998 at 01:25:14:

Dear Kathy,

Is this a sebaceous cyst or a pilonidal cyst? There is a world of difference. I can see where this approach would help a pilonidal cyst but not sebaceous cysts.

Walt



Re: sebaceous cyst

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 26, 1998 at 09:11:20:

In Reply to: Re: sebaceous cyst posted by DEL on July 25, 1998 at 06:53:38:

Dear DEL,

I'm sorry I missed this, somehow.

NO transfer by contact.

Here is an example to help you understand the second question since ALL birth defects present themselves via "penetrance". That means there is a bell curve of how severe it is (more complex than that but for this discussion, good enough). You can look at it as a spot on the "Bell Curve" of THAT problem.

Goute is a congenital problem. Why do some people show up with it in infancy and others not till they are 90? The ones in infancy are TOTALLY void of the enzyme needed to convert uric acid to urea and so accumulate uric acid in their tissue VERY rapidly. Those who do not show up with it till they are 90 are only a little deficient in this enzyme & so take a lifetime to accumulate enough uric acid in their tissues to have symptoms--and thus go for diagnosis.

For people to have recurrent sebaceous cysts, they have to have a genetic need for more essential oils in their diets than the rest of us. That is not to say that this lack is the only genetic deficiency they have but it is one we know about that can easily be altered.

Walt



Re: sebaceous cyst

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 26, 1998 at 09:18:06:

In Reply to: Re: sebaceous cyst posted by DEL on July 25, 1998 at 06:53:38:

Dear DEL,

Apparently we are "crossing in the mail". You must be one who has his "pilonidal" cyst inappropriately listed under the title of "sebaceous cysts". I AM REFERRING TO SEBACEOUS CYSTS IN MY LAST NOTE.

The first person who listed under sebaceous cysts actually had a pilonidal cyst. I think this is how this subject got screwed up.

Please, anyone else who lists under this subject, only list problems with sebaceous cysts. Those with pilonidal cysts, start a new subject with that in the title.

Walt





Re: Sebacious Cyst

Posted by LEVI H. ABINUMAN on July 18, 1998 at 06:59:03:

Pls. give me some information about this disease or
some studies and any possible cure for this. Is this really
cancerous ? I have some of this on my arms. Will it spread
on other parts of my body ?

Thanks,
levs



Re: Sebacious Cyst

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 19, 1998 at 08:10:33:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious Cyst posted by LEVI H. ABINUMAN on July 18, 1998 at 06:59:03:

Dear levs,

How did you get the idea that this could be cancerous???

Sebaceous cysts (recurrent) have been discussed exhaustively on this BB for the past month. Look for the subjects & read them. THEN, if you still have questions, write again.

Walt



tailbone pain--cyst??

Posted by sarah on July 19, 1998 at 15:00:41:

Dr. Stoll,
I have been having recurring tailbone pain. It starts as a very slight "bruised" feeling about an inch above the rectum and then gradually becomes so painful that I can hardly sit or lie in any position other than fetal. The first time I had it, the skin there began to split--very uncomfortable. I was pretty much aware at this point that it was some sort of cyst, but I'm very ignorant as to which kind. I went to my doctor who simply prescribed a very expensive antibiotic that eventually worked. However, it is now coming back. If you have any idea how I could prevent it from coming back or any treatment options other than antibiotics, I would appreciate it.
P.S. I love your site!!


Re: tailbone pain--cyst??

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 20, 1998 at 10:12:09:

In Reply to: tailbone pain--cyst?? posted by sarah on July 19, 1998 at 15:00:41:

Thanks, Sarah!

This is MOST likely a pilonidal cyst and WILL require extensive surgery. Were it me, I would ask around & find the surgeon with the best results with this condition since surgical expertise has a lot to do with results. Even the best does no better than 70% the first surgery.

A good resource would be to make friends with the people who work in the medical records department of the hospital you would consider. THEY know who is the best for this & there is no ethical reason for their not telling you.

Let us know what you learn. You will have to eventually do something about this if it is pilonidal and the longer you wait (more recurrences) the tougher it will be to finally resolve.

In the meantime, avoiding bumping it & using hot compresses for at least 5 minutes (at the limits of your tolerance--no need to burn yourself), at least 4-5 times a day--as soon as you feel the first symptom--will get you through the best till you can get an accurate diagnosis & treatment. Using a little antibacterial soap in the soak will help (dial, phase III, safeguard, etc.).

Let us know how you do.

Walt



Re: Sebacious Cyst

Posted by Eva Trevino on July 21, 1998 at 20:06:58:

Hi..

I have had this cyst on my back for many years (probably 6 or more). It has just recently started to hurt. I went to the doctor today and he is sending me to a surgeon to have it "drained". I have a few questions that I should have asked him ----- Is this going to HURT? Will they numb the area? How long will it take? Can I go back to work?

I would very much appreciate a fast reply as this will be done on Thursday of this week.

Thank you in advance for your time!!!

Eva


Re: Sebacious Cyst

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 22, 1998 at 15:29:46:

In Reply to: Re: Sebacious Cyst posted by Eva Trevino on July 21, 1998 at 20:06:58:

Dear Eva,

All of your questions depend upon the diagnosis and what layer of the skin it is in. Only the doc who examined you can answer that. If you feel that you cannot ask him/her, you are going to the wrong doc.

Personally, I would not go to surgery without having those questions answered. My personal opinion is that the doc was negligent for not volunteering that information when you wee first seen & the decision to "drain it" was made. This is not YOUR responsibility to ask.

If it were MY cyst, I would just have it removed.

Walt



pilonidal cyst

Posted by sarah on July 22, 1998 at 18:48:39:

Dear Dr. Stoll,
Thank you so much for your response to my last post--about recurring tailbone pain. Just your giving me the work "pilonidal" to work with has allowed me to do some fruitful research, whereas I was completely lost before. So far, the gist of what I have read about pilonidal cysts is that they are a minor abnormality formed while still a fetus. They do not pose problems until they become infected--either by ingrown hair, bacteria, sweat, etc. In my case I think the main problem may be sweat. I work at a veterinarian clinic doing physically demanding tasks all day and I sweat a lot. I read a little about surgical procedures and it sounds horrid, with months of painful recovery. What I really want to share with you is that with this recent flare-up, after finding out what it is and that sweat may very well be causing the problem, I have simply been putting rubbing alcohol on the area three or four times a day. I was expecting nothing more than simply to keep the area clean, but the cyst has GONE AWAY! No more pain. (At least for now.) I don't know if the alcohol worked or if it was already going away on its own, but it sure seems coincidental to me. What's your take on this? Could this have kept the infection at bay?


Re: pilonidal cyst

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 23, 1998 at 14:36:13:

In Reply to: pilonidal cyst posted by sarah on July 22, 1998 at 18:48:39:

Dear Sarah,

I had the impression (I am not sure why right now) that this was a recurrent problem. If is has reached that stage, it is very rare to help oneself by doing the preventive things (one of which you just discovered). If this is your first time, I missed that. I would have told you of the ways to reduce your chances right away. If this IS a recurrent problem, you are very fortunate to have had this work. Congratulations!

Another, perhaps more important one, is to use hair remover about once a week to keep ANY possibility of an ingrown hair (the most common precipitating cause) from happening.

I aways very carefully examined my children & newborns for this problem so I could teach th parents how to prevent this from becoming a problem. I have yet to have a patient who knew what to do (and did it) to EVER need surgery. This is just an other example of how careful conventional medicine can prevent very serious problems.

Unfortunately, the AMA has had a monopoly for so long they don't even practice competent conventional medicine any more. Why bother when you can make $300,000.00 a year without even trying? I am ashamed of my "colleagues".

Walt



Re: pilonidal cyst

Posted by robin on July 30, 1998 at 16:55:04:

In Reply to: pilonidal cyst posted by sarah on July 22, 1998 at 18:48:39:

Hi Sarah, I read your post while searching for other info, and felt I should give you my experience. In 1975 or 6 I had surgery for my pilonidal cyst. It had been a recurring problem for some time and suddenly it had become a problem that would not go away. I was in pain to the point I COULD NOT MOVE. Somehow, with the help of my parents and boyfriend I made it to the doctor, and he immediately ordered surgery. I did not protest as I was in so much pain that I didn't care what they did to me. Well, afterwards I felt a lot of relief, although the recovery was a bit trying, and I'm no sissy about pain. The site was left open to "granulate" or fill in from the bottom, I had to soak in a tub of warm water and "Phizo-Hex" (which I understand is off the market now), and was back to work in a few weeks. Since then I have had no problems with recurrance, or anything else in that area. The scar is ugly, but I can still remember the pain, and the scar is nothing in comparison. If you are not hurting this bad, I suggest you try other things, of which I have no idea what might help, but I did'nt want you to think the surgery was ALWAYS horrible. In my case it was a huge relief.
Robin Little


Re: pilonidal cyst

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 31, 1998 at 11:18:39:

In Reply to: Re: pilonidal cyst posted by robin on July 30, 1998 at 16:55:04:

Thanks, Robin.

Congratulations on your being among the 50% of successful first surgeries for this condition. From your description, they did it exactly right.

I much prefer patient education about how to keep them from getting to this stage but once they are, surgery is about the only thing to do.

Walt



Re: pilonidal cyst

Posted by Robin Little on July 31, 1998 at 13:19:49:

In Reply to: Re: pilonidal cyst posted by Walt Stoll on July 31, 1998 at 11:18:39:

Yes I am very grateful they did a good job, one of the few times I found satisfaction in the medical world.
I truly wish my parents and I had had the knowledge to prevent my surgery. We had never heard of pilonidal cysts, and still were not given any info about them. If and when I have grandchildren, I will certainly inform my daughters and sons about this and help them to prevent it in thier babies.
Thanks Dr. Stoll, for making so much information available to so many! You are doing a great service to your fellow-man.
Robin Little


sebaceous cysts

Posted by Jaci on July 26, 1998 at 23:52:15:

Dear Dr. Stoll,
I have recently had sebaceous cysts inside of my ear, the internal ear canals. Two of them have required surigcal intervention, one of them requiring four different
visits to an ENT who lanced suctioned and gouged out what felt like my entire ear canal. My hygiene is meticulous and I cannot help but wonder
what is causing these? the treating ENT was less than forthcoming because as i found out after research on my own there is no treatment or cure really... Do you
know of any new research in the area? I am a Registered Nurse and need my ears for obvious reasons. I have this crazy idea that they are related to using or borrowing
others stethoscopes that are less than clean but cannot prove it. I used my stethoscope last wednesday on my right ear only as my left ear
is the one needing all the treatment lately and the very next day my right ear hurt and had a cyst in it....
Is there any chance these are viral? I NEED SOME HELP HERE??????!!!!!

SINCERELY,
Jaci, RN, BSN.
j


Re: sebaceous cysts

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 27, 1998 at 11:15:32:

In Reply to: sebaceous cysts posted by Jaci on July 26, 1998 at 23:52:15:

Dear Jaci,

First of all, this IS an unnecessary condition and your present advice is coming from a purely allopathic paradigm.

Second, what kind of tips do you have on your 'scope?

Third, go to the FAQ page for this 'site and read about essential oils. Sebaceous cysts like this are a LOT more common in those with a relative deficiency of the "fat vitamins" and most people in this culture are now at least on the borderline of deficiency in these.

Fourth, do you use q-tips to clean your ear canals?

Let me know about your "tips" and "q-tips".

Thanks for giving me a chance to help others understand this mechanism. It is more common than you might think and ALL of them are unnecessary. As you get over this, I hope you will share your experiences with the rest of the BB participants. I also hope that this will be an opening of a door for you to go beyond your conventional training.

We conventional practitioners have a handicap about learning other ways to think. Your ears clearing up, after your "best conventional advice" was that nothing could be done, will make you wonder why.

Thanks again. If you have more questions after I get a chance to respond to the answers to my questions above, please write again.

Walt



Re: sebaceous cysts

Posted by Jaci on July 27, 1998 at 22:06:47:

In Reply to: Re: sebaceous cysts posted by Walt Stoll on July 27, 1998 at 11:15:32:

Dear Walt,
I use a rounded clear tip on my stethoscope, not curved or mushroom
tipped. Also, yes I do use Q-tips but 99% of the time it is with
Hydrogen Peroxide on them to clean them out thoroughly.
I read up on your essential oils FAQ page and purchased some of the
Omega 3 and 6's today...
THANKS FOR THE QUICK REPLY!!!
Jaci, RN BSN


Re: sebaceous cysts

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 28, 1998 at 15:30:49:

In Reply to: Re: sebaceous cysts posted by Jaci on July 27, 1998 at 22:06:47:

Dear Jaci,

Now, how did I know that you were a q-tip user AND that you were using the wrong stethescope tips????

In the past 2 months I put a long explanation on the BB about why q-tips cause this problem. Please look for it to save me pages of typing. If you can't find it, put a note on the BB for Bill (my genius son who administers this site) with his name in the title to attract his attention, and ask him where it is.

Go where you buy your medical diagnostic equipment & ask them for the soft "rubber" mushroom shaped ear tips for your scope. They tend to grow over time, from exposure to the ear wax, but replacing them every few months is a small price to pay to help prevent this. Once you get used to them, you will wonder why you ever used anything else.

I would do all 3 things: stop using q-tips, get the more forgiving stethescope tips AND the essential oils for a few months after the problem is definitely gone. THEN, I would cut the dose of oils in half & wait for recurrence. If no recurrence in 6 months, I would cut the dose in half again. Continue doing that until you either have a relapse (meaning that you need the last dose of oils for this and other reasons) or till you are off the oils completely. I would NEVER go back to q-tips or hard tips for my 'scope.

Let us know how you do.

Walt


Re: sebaceous cysts

Posted by Bill on July 28, 1998 at 19:25:01:

In Reply to: Re: sebaceous cysts posted by Walt Stoll on July 28, 1998 at 15:30:49:

Here's a link to detailed info about q-tips and ears. Wait 10 seconds or so for the page to load to the proper article.

Bill


Re: sebaceous cysts

Posted by Jaci on July 28, 1998 at 20:43:44:

In Reply to: Re: sebaceous cysts posted by Walt Stoll on July 28, 1998 at 15:30:49:

Walt,
A couple more quick questions, Is there any chance these cysts are viral?
And the nurses at work looked in my left ear today and said there's still
quite a bit of wet, green looking drainage in it on the area that ALREADY SPOKEN
of ENT drained, suctioned,lavaged, gavaged, lanced ,etc....I'm not on any
antibiotic but am still doing Cortisporin ear gtts QID to my left ear.
????? OK I'LL QUIT THE QTIPS ALREADY! ;]so is there any great
ear wash or flush or anything I could be doing?

Thanks again.
Jaci


Re: sebaceous cysts (TO BILL)

Posted by Jaci on July 28, 1998 at 20:48:43:

In Reply to: Re: sebaceous cysts posted by Bill on July 28, 1998 at 19:25:01:

Thanks for the quick link to Q-tip TIPS...!!
JACI


Re: sebaceous cysts

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 29, 1998 at 11:15:36:

In Reply to: Re: sebaceous cysts posted by Jaci on July 28, 1998 at 20:43:44:

Dear Jaci,

Domeboro Soaks are helpful at this stage. I would keep up the Cortisporin for now as well. Remember, you are changing this from the inside (with the essential oils) so it will take about 4-6 weeks for you to be past any relapses.

The mechanical trauma of the "tips" and "q-tips" disappear as soon as you stop using them but the internal changes take longer.

Let us know what happens.

Walt



PILONODIAL CYST

Posted by DEL on July 31, 1998 at 00:28:22:

IAM SCHEDULE FOR SURGERY TO REMOVE IT IS THIS A LONG LASTING RECOVERY. I HOPE TO RETURN TO WORK WITHIN TWO DAYS


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