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Posted by
J Carey [933.109] on May 26, 2005 at 13:30:40:

I have numerous times that I will partially awaken, then I feel like I can't breathe. I attempt to wake myself but I can't move my arms or legs. I attempt to call but I only make faint noises. Eventually I wake myself up, but in the mean time I feel frightened. I've archived already. Any ideas? Thank you.



Re: sleep disorder

Posted by Michele [6.1774] on May 26, 2005 at 14:00:51:

In Reply to: sleep disorder posted by J Carey [933.109] on May 26, 2005 at 13:30:40:

I think that a lot of folks have had that at one time or another; I used to get it in times of stress (now when I look back) but haven't had it in years now...
It's a creepy feeling!

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Re: sleep disorder

Posted by maryb [516.1801] on May 26, 2005 at 16:19:50:

In Reply to: sleep disorder posted by J Carey [933.109] on May 26, 2005 at 13:30:40:

Hi..this sounds like sleep paralysis. It can be associated with narcolepsy, but
not always. Maybe do a google search of this term & you'll see if it fits what
you're experiencing.

mary

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Posted by D [20.1727] on May 26, 2005 at 20:33:06:

In Reply to: sleep disorder posted by J Carey [933.109] on May 26, 2005 at 13:30:40:

Finally!!!! Someone else having the same problem I've had since I was a teenager.

I had to teach myself to calm down in this situation. I would always panic and felt if I didn't wake up soon something terrible would happen.

At first it would only happen while I was sleeping on my back but eventually it didn't make any difference which position I was in. I haven't had a spell in a while but I have to ask you did you experience any sensations in the forehead or extremities?

I would get sort of a buzzing sensation in my forehead and in my arms and legs and I would panic thinking something bad would occur if I didn't wake up before the sensation made it to my trunk. Shew. It's terrible.( Oddly enough I experienced the same sort of sensation in my forehead while on a flight and could not stay awake. I don't know if there is a connection.)

I'd do my best to try to smack myself awake or anything to wake up but I couldn't move which in turn would create more panic.

The last time I had an episode I actually told myself to calm down, that it wouldn't last and I would wake up in time like I always do and nothing bad was going to happen and it made the situation sooooo much better.

I'd like to hear more details of your experience if you don't mind cause I only have had one person to understand this and it is my husband but I feel his experience is different because he sees visions of a man which I would consider dreaming.



Re: sleep disorder

Posted by DeniseA. [2189.23] on May 26, 2005 at 20:56:51:

In Reply to: sleep disorder posted by J Carey [933.109] on May 26, 2005 at 13:30:40:

It sounds like sleep paralysis due to the hypnagogic (spelling) phases of sleep where you start entering the dream realm and are still partially awake. From what I have studied, the paralysis is a protective mechanism that prevents you from sleep walking. I only experience them when I am lying on my back and don't fall asleep immediately. They are usually frightening because I can't distinguish immediately if they are real or not. Next time you fall asleep and feel this "episode" approaching, try taking control of your dream and fears. It will take practice, but you can do it. I still get them and still reach a point of unsurety, but it is usually during the early stage of this that you can "direct" your dream, remind yourself it is not real, and either fall asleep peacefully or wake fully from the dream. Good luck on it. It might take a while, but it's worth it. The dreams can become very realistic!



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Posted by lissa [1263.1967] on May 26, 2005 at 21:00:27:

In Reply to: sleep disorder posted by J Carey [933.109] on May 26, 2005 at 13:30:40:

I also have had this happen. Not very often though. I am not sure what it is. I also have had panic attacks when I was awake but I don't think they are related. I haven't had a panic attack for a long time though.

I actually never gave this situation that you describe, when it happens to me a lot of thought. How often does it happen to you?

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Posted by DeniseA. [2189.23] on May 26, 2005 at 21:01:57:

In Reply to: Re: sleep disorder posted by D [20.1727] on May 26, 2005 at 20:33:06:

You definitely are NOT alone. I used to get them all the time, not as much anymore. But it usually ends with either the feeling of a very evil presence standing above my bed or that a spirit is trying to rape me (I know, sounds screwed up). I was actually supposed to appear on the Discovery Channel for a show on this "condition", but then 9/11 happened, and they decided to stick with local candidates only. I had moved to Atlanta in the meantime and never got a follow-up on when the show would be aired. Try typing "hypnagogic episode" in the google search bar and see what you come up with. I'm not sure if I spelled it correctly.



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Posted by lissa [1263.1967] on May 26, 2005 at 21:07:44:

In Reply to: Re: sleep disorder posted by DeniseA. [2189.23] on May 26, 2005 at 21:01:57:

WOW! Doesn't really sound that screwed up but it sounds scary.

Once I kept having the same dream over and over. I would dream that I woke up and started the day then realize I was dreaming, I'd wake up again and it would start all over again. I was so glad when I finally did wake up. I discovered in one of my dreams, that I can breathe underwater when I'm dreaming. Pretty weird huh? I was running from someone and hiding in a pool and thinking I'm going to drown. Then I said (to myself in the dream) I'm dreaming I can breathe and I COULD. I don't know why I didn't just tell myself to wake up. Maybe I wanted to see how it ended?

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Re: sleep disorder

Posted by Ron [1540.1989] on May 26, 2005 at 23:52:38:

In Reply to: Re: sleep disorder posted by DeniseA. [2189.23] on May 26, 2005 at 20:56:51:

Hi Denise,

Not only does it stop you from sleepwalking, it also saves you from hurting yourself or others when you might flail around in bed during an active dream. The only thing wrong with this normal condition is waking up too suddenly and noticing it.

Try rolling a sleeping baby over to see if they are stiff too.

Ron



Re: sleep disorder Can be fun! Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on May 27, 2005 at 08:00:51:

In Reply to: sleep disorder posted by J Carey [933.109] on May 26, 2005 at 13:30:40:

Hi, J,

This is called "sleep paralysis" and is perfectly benign. I used to have this as a teenager and it scared me, too. However, once I had learned about it in medical school, I learned to enjoy it. It is sort of like traveling "out of body" or deep meditation and imagery. You can play with it like one can learn to do "lucid dreaming".

Once I began enjoying it it stopped happening.

Walt

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Re: sleep disorder Can be fun! Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on May 27, 2005 at 08:01:17:

In Reply to: sleep disorder posted by J Carey [933.109] on May 26, 2005 at 13:30:40:

Hi, J,

This is called "sleep paralysis" and is perfectly benign. I used to have this as a teenager and it scared me, too. However, once I had learned about it in medical school, I learned to enjoy it. It is sort of like traveling "out of body" or deep meditation and imagery. You can play with it like one can learn to do "lucid dreaming".

Once I began enjoying it it stopped happening.

Walt



Re: sleep disorder Can be fun! Archive.

Posted by lissa [1263.1967] on May 27, 2005 at 08:23:38:

In Reply to: Re: sleep disorder Can be fun! Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on May 27, 2005 at 08:01:17:

You're weird. How could you enjoy that? I'm just kidding. I've had OBE before. (not very often). If you relax when it happens, it can be an O.K experience. I have a little fear of it though.



But one of the times I had this experience..............

Posted by lissa [1263.1967] on May 27, 2005 at 08:42:18:

In Reply to: Re: sleep disorder Can be fun! Archive. posted by lissa [1263.1967] on May 27, 2005 at 08:23:38:

I think I may actually have been dying. I had purposely OD'd on a dangerous drug. I had been in the intensive care and kept there because of arrhytmia. But I had been taken off the monitor so don't know if I was dying the stupid doctors said they can't figure out why I was having the arrhythmia. Why did they think? It was a completely different OBE than I have had while sleeping. I had to fight really hard to get back in my body. I don't allow myself to get depressed anymore, much less suicidal.

It is a depressing world I have always lived in. I'm used to it by now.



For those who want to know, that is not my background in psych,I mentioned

Posted by lissa [1263.1967] on May 27, 2005 at 09:01:14:

In Reply to: But one of the times I had this experience.............. posted by lissa [1263.1967] on May 27, 2005 at 08:42:18:

I am a behavioral specialist though am not currently employed as such. Not a lot of requirements involved in that in some positions though a degree is usually preferable to employers. I am not an expert in psychology. I do know a lot about it though and have taken courses in it. Probably the hardest classes I have ever taken.

My attempt to take my life was the act of a stupid teenager (if 19 is a teenager).


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Posted by D [20.1727] on May 27, 2005 at 19:20:23:

In Reply to: Re: sleep disorder posted by DeniseA. [2189.23] on May 26, 2005 at 21:01:57:

Hey Denise A,

That sounds more like what my husband experiences. I really don't feel anything is out of the ordinary when I have the episodes except what's happening to my body. I feel like I am awake and realize sometimes I'm actually not.

Sometimes I dream I woke up from it only to realize I was still asleep when I fianlly did wake up. My experience is more physical,not really dreaming anything. Or at least not that I remember or am aware of.

I have had dreams so bad I had to wake myself up and it was hard but that is different from what I refered to earlier.

I'll try to google to read more on hpnagogic episode. It sounds interesting. Especially since you were almost on the DIS. channel over it.




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Posted by DeniseA [2189.23] on May 30, 2005 at 21:42:32:

In Reply to: Re: sleep disorder posted by D [20.1727] on May 27, 2005 at 19:20:23:

Yes, I suggest reading up on it. Mine started and varies in stages: I've experienced everything from an episode of someone breaking into my apartment to floating in space and actually controling when I woke up and how fast I travelled. The paralysis is a level of protection. I've also had dreams so bad that I was so terrified that I just gave up, which is not me.

I really wish my experience were on TV, but it was bad timing. I had spent hours already between online forms and telephone interviews, and then 9/11. I don't even know if the special got broadcast. But I think it would have settled a lot of wanderous minds.

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Re: But one of the times I had this experience..............

Posted by DeniseA [2189.23] on May 30, 2005 at 21:48:35:

In Reply to: But one of the times I had this experience.............. posted by lissa [1263.1967] on May 27, 2005 at 08:42:18:

You may not necessarily be thinking about taking your life but thinking back to the days where you perceived yourself as having the ability to do so and maybe grateful that you didn't.

You sound like you need a vacation (rest, quiet, stillness, no stress, darkness). I'll join you!

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Re: sleep disorder

Posted by DeniseA [2189.23] on May 31, 2005 at 21:44:41:

In Reply to: Re: sleep disorder posted by Ron [1540.1989] on May 26, 2005 at 23:52:38:

I've had them since I was young and have gotten to the point where I know it's happening. I've actually learned to control my dreams as well (at least some if I catch them at the right stage). Thanks for the advice. I actually am at the point where I try to induce myself into this stage.

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