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Centerpointe & LGS

Posted by M. on September 27, 2002 at 08:56:40:

Walt,

I went through some of the archives regarding Centerpointe. It seems, I may be wrong here, but it seeems you dont seem to count Centerpointe as a valid SR form for healing. You do say that SR needs to be done twice a day.

Centerpointe that i practise at the moment is one hour a day. So is this going to heal my LGS or do you think I would be better off finding a differnt form of meditation.

I do find I am getting benefit from Centerpointe. but its more on a mental basis, not so much on a physical yet, but its too early right now, to really get an accurate picture. I really want to heal my LGS ,which had led to CR-S but if you feel Centerpointe is not going to be efficient enough to do this, as its only practised once a day, I may have to look into another form of meditation.



Re: Centerpointe & LGS

Posted by Joanie on September 27, 2002 at 09:34:39:

In Reply to: Centerpointe & LGS posted by M. on September 27, 2002 at 08:56:40:

I've been using Centerpointe for a couple of years now, however, only recently started it twice per day. Since the once per day hasn't helped my costo, I'm hoping the twice per day will. Walt will tell you that any type of SR must be done TWICE per day at least 20 minutes per session in order for you to get any benefits. Hope this helps.

Namaste`

Joanie



Re: Centerpointe & LGS

Posted by M. on September 27, 2002 at 10:09:08:

In Reply to: Re: Centerpointe & LGS posted by Joanie on September 27, 2002 at 09:34:39:

So, Joanie, you are spending two hours per day in meditation or just 30mins each session?



Re: Centerpointe & LGS

Posted by M. on September 27, 2002 at 10:12:01:

In Reply to: Re: Centerpointe & LGS posted by Joanie on September 27, 2002 at 09:34:39:

Joanie,

I thought of something else.

Why have you continued with centerpointe if it hasnt helped your costo?



Re: Centerpointe & LGS

Posted by Joanie on September 27, 2002 at 14:05:31:

In Reply to: Re: Centerpointe & LGS posted by M. on September 27, 2002 at 10:09:08:

Actually, I just use The Dive in the am (30 minutes) and another CD (not Centrepointe) in the afternoon (20 minutes). I could probably use more sessions, but there's just no time. Big sigh!

Namaste`

Joanie

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Re: Centerpointe & LGS

Posted by Joanie on September 27, 2002 at 14:11:00:

In Reply to: Re: Centerpointe & LGS posted by M. on September 27, 2002 at 10:12:01:

Well, mostly because I was only doing 30 minutes once per day until recently, and secondly, I have become accustomed to it, and I miss it if I don't do it. The Dive is just something I don't get tired of.

I've been taking baby steps towards my eventual cure. I'm not 100% sure that I've got costo, just don't know what else it could be. Conventional docs don't have a clue. So, I try a little of what's prescribed here. My diet could be lots better, but like I said, I'm taking baby steps. It doesn't help that my husband is healthy as a horse and eats and drinks whatever he desires without any consequences (sigh).

Namaste`

Joanie



Re: Centerpointe & LGS

Posted by M. on September 27, 2002 at 14:34:44:

In Reply to: Re: Centerpointe & LGS posted by Joanie on September 27, 2002 at 14:11:00:

Joanie

I can relate. Its so depressing to see your friends and family eating whatever they like, and look at you pitifully eating your salad and fish.

I just turn it around now, and say to myself, well, I have certain weaknesses in my body that they dont, and its up to me to change them. I could be a lot worse off, like starving in Africa, etc. Lucky I even have food at all, to make the choice to eat healthy.

But its easy to get down about it, but thats just the way my body is and I have accepted it.

Even baby steps, count, so keep up the motivation.



Re: Centerpointe & LGS

Posted by Joanie on September 27, 2002 at 14:44:53:

In Reply to: Re: Centerpointe & LGS posted by M. on September 27, 2002 at 14:34:44:

Thanks for the kind words M. You have a great attitude.

Namaste`

Joanie



Re: Centerpointe & LGS

Posted by M. on September 27, 2002 at 15:50:29:

In Reply to: Re: Centerpointe & LGS posted by Joanie on September 27, 2002 at 14:44:53:

Thanks Joanie.

When you have suffered enough, I think thats when you decide to change your attitude. It would be so easy for me to be bitter,(been there, done that :)) but where is that going to get me. I accept whatever my karma is, and work with what can be changed.

I change what I can, and try and live with what I cant. In my mind, I look at it as being what is meant to be. I believe there are certain things in life that we are not meant to have, no matter how hard we try, and maybe thats the universes way of teaching us certain lessons that we need to learn in order to evolve and grow.

Cheers

M.


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Re: Centerpointe & LGS (One option.) Archive in SR.

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 28, 2002 at 07:40:24:

In Reply to: Centerpointe & LGS posted by M. on September 27, 2002 at 08:56:40:

Hi, M.

I appreciate your persistance when something is not working. However it only means that once you find what does, you will probably keep it up.

I have seen a very few people who once a day has helped. I push the twice a day so hard for beginners because I want the largest % to get results. THEN they can adjust their own programs once they know what results are like.

Obviously once a day is not for YOU.

I DO count Centerpoint as a valid way for SR and many people find that just doing it for 20 minutes twice a day is THEIR way. In MY experience Centerpoint is no better, or worse, than many other ways the individual might find through the "workbook" for lots less money. It is just different.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: Centerpointe & LGS (One option.) Archive in SR.

Posted by Maria Maria on September 28, 2002 at 07:53:46:

In Reply to: Re: Centerpointe & LGS (One option.) Archive in SR. posted by Walt Stoll on September 28, 2002 at 07:40:24:

Thanks Walt, yes, that does clear it up.

I figure what I might do, which Joanie suggested,was practise twice a day using the Centerpointe tapes. I spent enough on them. (sigh)

So 30mins morning and night. I have had a change in my schedule which is going to make this much easier to stick to a routine, and I will finally be able to do some of the things I have been wanting to do for quite a while.

I have another question.

It seems when I went through the archives, that some people find that SR helps them tremendously in the beginning, but find after a while that it longer has the same effect.

Why would this be? I remember this happening to me a while ago when I was practising TM. So does this mean that every few months, you have to find another form of meditation. And what happens when you run out of meditation techniques? LOL. :)))) Just thinking ahead, here. Or maybe getting ahead of myself, thats been known to happen once in a while. LMAO.

Oh, Btw, I am also noticing that I need less sleep. Yay! Thrilled to bits, as my sleep is so important in my job. Well, not on the job! :)) Although you never can tell with my job. I could do it in my sleep. :)

M.



Re: Centerpointe & LGS

Posted by Paul C. on September 29, 2002 at 01:44:29:

In Reply to: Centerpointe & LGS posted by M. on September 27, 2002 at 08:56:40:

I think this discussion has come up a few times.

If you like it and benefit it from it, no reason to give it up. On the other hand, there is no rule that requires you only to use centerpointe material exclusively. When I used the centerpointe program, i would also do a second session during the day with a different centerpointe tape or something put out by a different company.

Good luck.

Paul C.

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Re: Centerpointe & LGS (One option.) Archive in SR.

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 29, 2002 at 09:13:23:

In Reply to: Re: Centerpointe & LGS (One option.) Archive in SR. posted by Maria Maria on September 28, 2002 at 07:53:46:

Thanks, Maria.

Many people (including myself) have noticed what you mentioned: The original SR stops being effective eventually.

The answer to this is buried in the archives somewhere.

As you know, SR is different for different people. As your SR is effective, you gradually become a different person and so may need to change your SR technique. At least, if your first one was effective, you know what the relaxation response feels like and so do not have to do the biofeedback again.

Hope this helps.

Namaste`

Walt

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