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Walt: moving from one brainwave state to the next...

Posted by d.d. on November 16, 1998 at 01:37:45:

Dear Walt,

I listen to my "Total Relaxation" (alpha waves) tape on the way to work. It's obviously not as good as lying down in a dark room without distraction, but I don't have time in the morning. So when I get to work, I'm very relaxed, but I want to be sharp and alert, so I then start listening to "High Focus" (beta waves) to induce that state. At night I might listen to alpha waves in the early eve and then switch to delta to prepare for slumber.

Am I cancelling out any positive affects by immediately switching from one brainwave state to another, especially in the morning? Will the alpha from the ride be overidden by the beta? And will the beta be as affective if I have first immersed myself in alpha for an hour on the way to work?

The alpha tape does relax me and my psychic ablilites, memory, creativity, and vivid imagery really are much better. It's so neat!


namaste`,
d.d.


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Re: Walt: moving from one brainwave state to the next...

Posted by Walt Stoll on November 17, 1998 at 10:48:51:

In Reply to: Walt: moving from one brainwave state to the next... posted by d.d. on November 16, 1998 at 01:37:45:

Dear d.d.,

What you are doing is fine. The only problem would be doing anything you count toward your twice a day within 2 hours of retiring.

What works for you works for you. Unfortunately, many of your long-term benefits will not show up for 3-6 months (some not even for a year or so). You may not know how well things are working until then.

Walt



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Re: Walt: moving from one brainwave state to the next...

Posted by d.d. on November 17, 1998 at 22:46:32:

In Reply to: Re: Walt: moving from one brainwave state to the next... posted by Walt Stoll on November 17, 1998 at 10:48:51:

Dear Walt,

Thanks for your answer and encouragement. I think I already see some benefits, but in any case, I will continue my brainwave tapes until the day I relax into expiration, if you know what I mean!


namaste`,
d.d.



Changing brainwave state: is it really that easy to plug in a tape?

Posted by Pete R on November 18, 1998 at 08:48:48:

In Reply to: Walt: moving from one brainwave state to the next... posted by d.d. on November 16, 1998 at 01:37:45:

Hello. I have both the tapes you mentioned as well. And I use the relaxation tape sometimes when I (try) to meditate. And the high focus is a good white noise background when I need to read something and there is much distraction around.

I follow traditional meditation to achieve SR and find that the tapes do very little to keep my brain from straying and thinking of other things. But I still like them.

So I don't think its that easy to plug in a tape and "do some alph for 1 hour", then some "beta", for another hour, etc. Or, maybe it is that easy, and I'm just not responsive. But I doubt it. And, I too, am "too busy" sometimes to really practice SR as I should, but we are exactly the people who need it most, people who feel that they are too busy to do it.

It may be that the act of taking the time to practice it is part of how it works. You are taking the time to completely relax and not think of anything. It seems to require concious effort.

But then again, Dr. Stoll and others seems to be at a higher level and CAN turn it on and off, but that must take years and years of practice. I hope to get there too.

Regards. Pete Reinhard


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Re: Changing brainwave state: is it really that easy to plug in a tape?

Posted by d.d. on November 19, 1998 at 02:43:48:

In Reply to: Changing brainwave state: is it really that easy to plug in a tape? posted by Pete R on November 18, 1998 at 08:48:48:

Dear Peter,

Walt said that the tapes could take up to a year to see the affects, so if you feel disconnected and unaffected now, you may not really be. There is another tape called deep meditation which is supposed to take you through all states, one after the other. I have it, but haven't tried it yet. I know it is probably a great idea if I could do it myself, via meditation, but I look at this situation and life in general as a business. There has to be comprimise. The tape may not be as good as your own meditation, but it's certainly better than nothing. I do feel more relaxed, sometimes almost groggy and drunk, and my memory and imagery are skyrocketing. And there does seem to be a cumulative affect too. Maybe you could do a cmnbination -- tapes during the week and your own meditation during the weekend.

Whatever you do, don't give up, it's so important for your well being, some degree being better than nothing!


namaste`,
d.d.


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thanks for the reminder....

Posted by trish on November 19, 1998 at 10:03:47:

In Reply to: Re: Changing brainwave state: is it really that easy to plug in a tape? posted by d.d. on November 19, 1998 at 02:43:48:

hi, d.d.! I'm glad you're doing so well!

You reminded me that even a little is better than nothing. I've been having a real hard time lately. At first, it seemed like I could turn on a cd and just go for it...now it doesn't work as well. I am experiencing an SR block! It also became apparent to me that if I use the same cd over and over, it doesn't work as well...I have 4 or 5 of them, mostly by Brain Sync (I do have deep meditation and it's one of my favorites), and I switch off every three or four sessions and it seems to keep the energy flowing much better. And, throwing in the one by The Relaxation Company seems to work even better to give me some variety. It is very different from the Brain Sync cds. So, your switching from tape to tape is probably helping you from getting into a rut!

anyway, thanks for sharing your practical approach and take care!!!
trish


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Re: thanks for the reminder....

Posted by Nancy on November 19, 1998 at 19:10:55:

In Reply to: thanks for the reminder.... posted by trish on November 19, 1998 at 10:03:47:

trish

I, too, have experienced SR blocks. They usually occur after I've skipped a day. The best solution to the block, for me is to do it 3-4 times in a day. That gets me over the block. Also, I've found that the manifestation of my relaxation changes form from time to time. I started out experiencing tingling, then body waving, then floating, etc. When a particular part of my body is in need, I get more sensation there. Like when my colon is on the blink, I'll get a wave there.
I only use one tape, Guided Relaxation, by BrainSync. I want to order Guided Meditation because it's available on CD. Sometimes the hiss of the cassette tape irritates me. Could you tell me more about the Relaxation Co? I'd like to buy something locally, rather than ordering. So far I haven't found the Brainsync ones in any stores, although, I've read on the BB that they're available.


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Re: thanks for the reminder/nancy....

Posted by Robin Pollan on November 19, 1998 at 21:05:19:

In Reply to: Re: thanks for the reminder.... posted by Nancy on November 19, 1998 at 19:10:55:

Hi! Nancy,

I also have a cd from The Relaxation Co, I got it at Barnes & Noble and I love it!!!! The first time I put it on, I was instantly relaxed. It is called Musical Massage, it has an hour of music mixed with ocean/nature sounds but it does not have any talking on it. I even put it on now when I am studying for school or while I am working, it helps to keep me from getting stressed out.

Robin



Your welcome and...

Posted by d.d. on November 19, 1998 at 23:51:43:

In Reply to: thanks for the reminder.... posted by trish on November 19, 1998 at 10:03:47:

Hi Trish, nice to hear from you!

Thanks, I'm doing ok. I get bored with the same tape, but it still works so I'll keep doing it. I do sometimes switch over to Dr. Jeffrey Thompson's brainwave suite. It contains alpha, theta, alpha/theta, and delta tapes. It's very good.

Also, I believe that there will be somedays when you won't necessarily feel the great affects on the surface, but relaxation is occuring behind the scenes.. And there is a cumulative affect, Walt said that sometimes it can take up to a year to feel like we're reaping the benefits. We can 't expect perfection in this arena if we can't expect it in any other. There will be good days and not so good days(bad hair days), but I really believe it really works.

If you get a chance, try this cd, it probably comes in a tape too. It's called " Om Namaha Shivaya". I told your friend Greg about it many moons ago. You won't believe how incredibly relaxed you'll feel afterwards. It chants the title for about 45 minutes and the last 15 minutes are just an "Om".

When you first hear it you'll think I'm nuts, but just listen to it and don't judge it, and after about a week you'll be hooked. On the weekends I listen to "Total Relaxation" and then "Om Namaha Shivaya", and I am so relaxed I could float. I need it to combat the stress of life!


Best wishes and lots of luck,
d.d.


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Relaxation Company

Posted by d.d. on November 20, 1998 at 00:13:09:

In Reply to: Re: thanks for the reminder.... posted by Nancy on November 19, 1998 at 19:10:55:

Nancy,

I think the Relaxation Company has a catalogue and a great selection of all kinds of neat tapes. I think Dr. Thompsons brainwave tapes are sold through them and I have one called "Globabl Meditation" which is rhythms and percussion. I bet your music store will have info on them. One of my favorite cd's is "Shona Spirit".
It's music by artists from Zimbabwe and it is fantastic. I don't know if it's from the Relaxation Company or not but it's great.


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Re: thanks for the reminder....

Posted by trish on November 20, 1998 at 16:38:23:

In Reply to: Re: thanks for the reminder.... posted by Nancy on November 19, 1998 at 19:10:55:

Hi, Nancy!

The cd I have is called Healing Music (I think) I lent it to my rolfer, so I don't have it in front of me...it's a cd with dijeridoo and aboriginal drums/flutes...it's very different, more natural and I think sort of visceral sounding. I love it. I got it at Barnes & Noble...I think you could find a website for The Relaxation Company and get a catalog. I plan on getting more from them, since I prefer more natural instruments to the synthesized sound of the brain sync music.

Thanks for the input about your SR blocks...I am starting to pick up again it seems, so hopefully, it was just a bad phase I was going through.

take care,
trish



Thank you, oh wise one...

Posted by trish on November 20, 1998 at 16:42:16:

In Reply to: Your welcome and... posted by d.d. on November 19, 1998 at 23:51:43:

You are so right...I have continued with my SR attempts even though I didn't feel it "happening" for me, because I believe as you do, that the effects will be cumulative, and not always apparent.

I will keep my eyes peeled for that tape/cd. I have some gregorian chants I have not tried to use for meditation yet, but I think I will give those a try, too...I'll let you know how they are.

take care, d.d.

trish



Re: Relaxation Company

Posted by Nancy on November 20, 1998 at 19:36:55:

In Reply to: Relaxation Company posted by d.d. on November 20, 1998 at 00:13:09:

d.d.
Thanks. I'll look for it. I do like the gurided ones because they keep me focused.




Re: Relaxation Company

Posted by Nancy on November 20, 1998 at 20:23:54:

In Reply to: Relaxation Company posted by d.d. on November 20, 1998 at 00:13:09:

d.d.
The Relaxation co. does have a web site, but it leads to cdnow. You can even listen to samples if you don't mind waiting 9 minutes to download it. I didn't want to do that. Think I'll check B&N again.
Thanks



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Re: Relaxation Company

Posted by d.d. on November 21, 1998 at 01:34:50:

In Reply to: Re: Relaxation Company posted by Nancy on November 20, 1998 at 20:23:54:

Nancy,

Thanks, thats good to know about the website. I like the music store called "block buster music" because they let you listen to tapes as long as you want. That's how I've bought almost all my tapes in the last two years, by listening to them first at the music store!

d.d.



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