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Sunscreen

Posted by Jason on October 27, 1998 at 21:30:44:

Dr. Stoll-
I noticed in archives that you don't really approve of using cosmetic sunscreens on the skin.

I have very fair skin and develop moles ("beauty marks" as some crazy people would call them) whenever I go out in the sun, and for that reason, either avoid it like the plague or where heavy sunscreen. My reasoning behind this is I feel my body is telling me the sun is not good for me by easily turning red and giving me moles, whereas other people who tan easily and have clear skin can take some sun.

Does this sound logical or do you still think I should expose myself to the sun without wearing sunscreen?

Thank you.


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Re: Sunscreen

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 29, 1998 at 11:28:24:

In Reply to: Sunscreen posted by Jason on October 27, 1998 at 21:30:44:

Dear Jason,

I am NOT opposed to people using sunscreen!

I just think that people should know that the current medical research has shown that sunscreens only block the tanning rays and NOT the ones that cause skin cancer.

Since a tan protects the skin from those cancer causing rays, statistics are showing that those using sunscreens are getting more cancer than those who do not. An informed public can figure out, for themselves, what to do. The thinning of the ozone layer is only going to make this decision more important in the future than it is now.

Walt



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Re: Sunscreen

Posted by Ben on October 29, 1998 at 12:56:32:

In Reply to: Re: Sunscreen posted by Walt Stoll on October 29, 1998 at 11:28:24:

If you're fair, would vitamin C and topical vitamin E protect you from getting sunburn AND moles/freckles?
If so, for how long (minutes, hours, etc.?)
Do you have to supplement for days before exposure or just on the days you will be in the sun?
Thank you.


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Re: Sunscreen

Posted by Louise on October 30, 1998 at 08:54:05:

In Reply to: Sunscreen posted by Jason on October 27, 1998 at 21:30:44:

Jason,

Here is my personal experience.

I am quite blonde (naturally platinum) and have always been quite light skinned.

I have been researching the concept of EFA's (essential fatty acids) protecting your skin from sun damage. I have a Hunter-Gatherer metabolism (type O blood) and I eat alot of meat and ingest a good amount of saturated fat. I also supplement with fish and flax oil and black currant oil. I have been doing this for about almost a year.

This last summer I was in Florida off and on vacationing, and wore no sun screen at all. I got quite tan and never burned once!! I can't tell you how astouunding this is for me. Usually I burn a few times and never retain much tan (with sunscreen). I am still quite tan and it has been a few months since I have had any serious sun.

In my youth, growing up on the beach, I never used sunscreen, usually got one initial burn and was good for the rest of the summer.

I definitely think it was the lack of sunscreeen and the additional fats in my diet that kept me from my usual lobster-like summer countenence this past summer.

I think the sunscreen industry and the whole UV scare is a lot of hype. The sun is our friend.

Not very scientific, granted, but it did support all the research I had discovered.

Sunnily,

Louise


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Re: Sunscreen

Posted by PeggyH on October 30, 1998 at 10:30:42:

In Reply to: Sunscreen posted by Jason on October 27, 1998 at 21:30:44:

Jason,

I am dark-blonde and have fair skin also. I've always burned and could get a light tan. I always had to slather my lips with protection or I'd get blisters (herpes). But, a year ago I moved to Southern CA near the beach and am outside constantly. Most of the time I don't put anything at all on my skin or lips, I get a nice color, and I HAVE NOT been burning or gotten ANY cold sores. The major change in the past year has been the elimination of SUGAR from my diet. I've read that sugar in your body makes you burn, so maybe that's what did it. In the last couple months I have been taking Vit C and using Vit E cream for some added protection.

Peggy




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Re: Sunscreen

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 30, 1998 at 12:33:25:

In Reply to: Re: Sunscreen posted by Ben on October 29, 1998 at 12:56:32:

Dear Ben,

Recent research indicates that those who have said this for years are probably right. Taking any antioxident will help prevent the damage of ANY radiation burn (which is what sunburn is).

Vitamins C & E are the least expensive and most available ones to use. I would start taking them at least 24 hours prior to exposure & keep it up for 2 days after. The doses I would use are at least 2 grams of esterified vitamin C and 1000 units of vitamin E daily.

The more fair I was, the more consistantly I would do this.

Walt



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If you want a sunscreen, here is an organic one....

Posted by Sharon on October 30, 1998 at 14:41:28:

In Reply to: Sunscreen posted by Jason on October 27, 1998 at 21:30:44:

Sounds like you many not need a sunscreen. But there is a company who makes one that is solvent and chemical free. It contains vegetable caprylic capric, tyriglyceride, safflower oil, coconut oil, carrageenan, pure Paba, and pure coconut extract in it. They have a web site. www.realpurityinc.com or phone 1-313-572-9066


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Re: Sunscreen

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 31, 1998 at 11:28:34:

In Reply to: Re: Sunscreen posted by Louise on October 30, 1998 at 08:54:05:

Thanks, Louise.

That is exactly the way it seems to work. Taking extra vitamin C & E will also help.

Walt




Re: Sunscreen

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 31, 1998 at 11:37:44:

In Reply to: Re: Sunscreen posted by PeggyH on October 30, 1998 at 10:30:42:

Thanks PeggyH,

You got it! Either people start doing something about wellness, or they will continue to pay the conventional medical monopoly to cover up the symptoms------something the conventional medical/pharmaceutical complex is only too glad to provide.

Namaste` Walt




Re: If you want a sunscreen, here is an organic one....

Posted by Ben on November 05, 1998 at 13:09:04:

In Reply to: If you want a sunscreen, here is an organic one.... posted by Sharon on October 30, 1998 at 14:41:28:

Isn't PABA allergenic?


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Re: Sunscreen

Posted by Ben on November 05, 1998 at 13:15:25:

In Reply to: Re: Sunscreen posted by Walt Stoll on October 30, 1998 at 12:33:25:

And considering you are reasonably healthy, you wouldn't
get burned, sunspots, freckles, or collagen deterioration if you spent, say, two hours in direct sunlight and had fair skin and supplemented with Vitamins C&E???



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Re: If you want a sunscreen, here is an organic one....

Posted by Walt Stoll on November 06, 1998 at 08:44:54:

In Reply to: Re: If you want a sunscreen, here is an organic one.... posted by Ben on November 05, 1998 at 13:09:04:

Dear Ben,

To some people, YES. Also, PABA is one of the substances that only blocks the tanning rays & not the ones that actually cause the cancer.

I think it is the combination Sharon is talking about that produces the beneficial effect. The only way we could know if that combination also protects against cancer from sun exposure is to have a LOT of people use it and see what happens after 20 years.

This problem is why it took so long to figure out that commercial sunscreens prevented tanning but increased the risk of skin cancer.

Walt



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Re: Sunscreen

Posted by Walt Stoll on November 06, 1998 at 08:48:07:

In Reply to: Re: Sunscreen posted by Ben on November 05, 1998 at 13:15:25:

Hi, Ben.

Youu would have LESS skin damage than if you had not used the antioxidents.

Walt




Commercial sunscreens

Posted by Ben on November 09, 1998 at 12:41:12:

In Reply to: Re: If you want a sunscreen, here is an organic one.... posted by Walt Stoll on November 06, 1998 at 08:44:54:

Hi Dr. Stoll.

Do you know if *all*/*most*/*some* of the anti-UV ingredients increase one's chances of getting cancer?
I.E. have they done studies on both physical and chemical sunblocks?

Thank you.


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Re: Commercial sunscreens

Posted by Walt Stoll on November 10, 1998 at 11:16:13:

In Reply to: Commercial sunscreens posted by Ben on November 09, 1998 at 12:41:12:

Dear Ben,

MY reading tells me that EACH ingredient has its own spectrum of "block' and there are NO commercial combinations that do not pretty selectively block only the tanning rays & not the ones that cause the cancer.

I hope there is someone on the BB who has saved these articles so they can share them with us.

Has everyone noticed how Doc Dave has commited to the 'puter volumes of supporting articles for concepts he offers?

If I had known how to do that 20 years ago, and the technology been available, I could have saved all this stuff on the ZIP drive & fed it back here when needed.

As my German dad used to tell me: "Ve get too soon oldt and soo late smardt!"

Walt




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