Walt,
Today I did a vitamin C flush (taking vitamin C to bowel
tolerance). In my case, I required 57 grams of buffered
vitamin C salts.
I was wondering what you know about the benefits or
problems created by such a dosage.
Regards,
Thomas
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Re: Vitamin C Flush
Posted by Walt Stoll on November 09, 1998 at 11:59:25:
In Reply to: Vitamin C Flush posted by Thomas Seay on November 08, 1998 at 23:52:32:
WOW, Thomas!
You must really have needed it to be able to tolerate such a dose before loose stools. That would be the equivalent (so far as effectiveness is concerned) of about 14 grams of esterified vitamin C daily. The difference with the esterified form is that you should have been able to take twice as much before loose stools since it is about twice as easily absorbed. THAT would have given you the effective dose (so far as the white cell is concerned) of at least 8 times the dose you took.
WOW, again!
I have never heard of anyone with such a high threshold.
What was your reason for doing it? I can think of no harm that could be done.
Walt
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140g, now you've heard of someone
Posted by Steve Shapiro on November 09, 1998 at 21:11:12:
In Reply to: Re: Vitamin C Flush posted by Walt Stoll on November 09, 1998 at 11:59:25:
Hi Walt,
Back in the Dark Ages, before I learned how to feed myself, I tried Vitamin C megadosing (ala Dr. Cathcart).
My average was 100g per day, and the all time one day high was 140g of Calcium Ascorbate.
Those were the days :-)
best wishes,
steve shapiro
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Re: 140g, now you've heard of someone
Posted by Kyra on November 09, 1998 at 23:32:14:
In Reply to: 140g, now you've heard of someone posted by Steve Shapiro on November 09, 1998 at 21:11:12:
Dear all,
One more for the anecdotal file. Me, the strict hunter-gatherer (sometimes slack H-G is closer to the truth...). I regularly take 8-14 grams of esterified a day. If less, it's a no go. When I do the occasional vitamin C flush (with ascorbic acid only because it's cheap), I easily reach 100 grams a day BEFORE reaching bowel tolerance or even getting an acid stomach. This for an obligate H-G? One would think I'd be a raging agriculturalist, but no... At that point, I stop gram counting. After doing a flush for a couple of days, I immediately drop back to my usual 8-14 grams of esterified C, with no resultant viruses or other bugs. Go figure...we're all so different although we share so many similarities. I do wonder sometimes why my interferon factory requires such heavy C stoking. The universe, or whatever it is, provides us with such marvelous riddles.
Namaste'
Kyra
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Re: Vitamin C Flush
Posted by Thomas Seay on November 10, 1998 at 00:02:28:
In Reply to: Re: Vitamin C Flush posted by Walt Stoll on November 09, 1998 at 11:59:25:
Walt,
It was recommnded to me by the Clinical Nutritionist at Serammune Lab, where I recently got a very thorough testing of Food and environmental allergies. They recommend it to just about everyone, so as to determine the correct individual dosage of vitamin C. After having ascertained your bowel tolerance level, you know that 75 percent of that dose is the correct daily amount of vitamin C. You continue on that amount until it starts to create loose stoll, then reduce amount accordingly..
In my case ( I have candida and am working on revitalizing my stressed out adrenals), she felt that the amount of vitamin C I was taking was far too low (4 grams/day).
Anyone interested in doing this should remember to get a buffered non-acidic poder form of vitamin C.
Regards,
Thomas
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Re: 140g, now you've heard of someone
Posted by Walt Stoll on November 11, 1998 at 09:50:12:
In Reply to: 140g, now you've heard of someone posted by Steve Shapiro on November 09, 1998 at 21:11:12:
WOW, Steve! Thanks. Walt
Re: 140g, now you've heard of someone
Posted by Walt Stoll on November 11, 1998 at 09:52:16:
In Reply to: 140g, now you've heard of someone posted by Steve Shapiro on November 09, 1998 at 21:11:12:
By the way, Steve.
How ARE you doing?
Just a brief note, for those who did not know how sick you were would help those who were not on the BB back then, would help.
Walt
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Re: 140g, now you've heard of someone
Posted by Walt Stoll on November 11, 1998 at 10:07:33:
In Reply to: Re: 140g, now you've heard of someone posted by Kyra on November 09, 1998 at 23:32:14:
Thanks, Kyra!
I have a section in my book that attempts to alert people to the WIDE differences in people since this speaks directly against the allopathic paradigm of pretty much treating everyone the same.
Clinical research plainly shows that some people need more than 1000 times of some nutrients than others need just to be "normal" for the function of that nutrient.
Namaste` Walt
Re: Vitamin C Flush
Posted by Walt Stoll on November 11, 1998 at 10:09:37:
In Reply to: Re: Vitamin C Flush posted by Thomas Seay on November 10, 1998 at 00:02:28:
Thanks, Thomas.
A "loose stoll" (grin)?
Walt
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Re: Vitamin C Flush
Posted by Thomas Seay on November 11, 1998 at 15:14:07:
In Reply to: Re: Vitamin C Flush posted by Walt Stoll on November 11, 1998 at 10:09:37:
I was afraid that you might catch that. Sorry. Dont care to try and interpret that freudian slip.
-Thomas
Life is Good
Posted by Steve Shapiro on November 16, 1998 at 15:21:53:
In Reply to: Re: 140g, now you've heard of someone posted by Walt Stoll on November 11, 1998 at 09:52:16:
Walt,
Thanks for asking. Sorry for the delay in posting back.
I've been off drugs (Prednisone) for 1.75 months as of now. I still have a few signs and symptoms of illness (mouth pimples while I eat), but nothing strong enough to consider taking drugs again.
By way of background, I have what is supposed to be a potentially fatal autoimmune disease called Pemphigus. My immune system attacks one particular layer of mucus membrane tissue in the skin, causing it to blister and fall off. Icky. Here's a link for the morbidly curious.
Another proof in the wheel: "There is no such thing as an incurable illness, just incurable people."
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the link
Posted by Steve Shapiro on November 16, 1998 at 15:23:07:
In Reply to: Life is Good posted by Steve Shapiro on November 16, 1998 at 15:21:53:
The link didn't go through on the last post:
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~sshapiro/Pemphigus/Pemphigus.html
Re: Life is Good
Posted by Walt Stoll on November 17, 1998 at 11:56:02:
In Reply to: Life is Good posted by Steve Shapiro on November 16, 1998 at 15:21:53:
Thanks, Steve.
You are so right.
I have seen wellness totally resolve terminal cases of pemphigus. I have seen no cases that it did not dramatically improve.
Walt