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Posted by dd [1706.26] on March 30, 2004 at 01:31:38:

Hi Walt,

i thought you might find this interesting. I don't know if
you remember, but I came on the board originally
because of the ganglion cyst on my wrist. It went down
twice, came back, and has been the size of Mt. Hood
ever since for the last 4 months or so. It began to have
pain. My doc saw it and about fainted, and scheduled
me an appointment for a surgeon to look at it. I don't
like that idea. My Dr. Brother saw me a few weeks ago
while visiting and told me to ..... (gosh, forgot the term.
sorry) .....needle in, take out the gel, put in a steroid. He
said it works some of the time. His concern is about
me being a violinist when it comes to surgery.

Ok, here is the interesting part.. I just didn't feel good
about the choices, and kept thinking that there had to
be a reason, and I just needed to allow myself to get in
touch with that reason. I just kept feeling that the whole
thing was somehow tied into these muscles in my back
and shoulders, and that it was translating down into the
wrists. I just instinctivelly thought they were tied
together. So tonight, bound and determined, I just got
into kind of an intuitive space and started doing some
motions with those muscles in my back, and then
squeezed them together very tightly, held for about ten
seconds, then let it go. My back began to relax. About a
half an hour later, I looked down at my wrist and the cyst
is was about 1/4 the size. I did it again, and it almost
went flat. So...somehow, the muscles in the back
(ones that run under the shoulder blade and out and
above to the spine), and the muscles behind shoulders
and up the neck, are connected. The elbows feel very
relaxed now. The cyst is always bigger right after I play.
I wish I knew the names of all the muscles to be more
specific. So, what do you think about this?

Good to see you back dear Sir.

dd



Re: p.s.

Posted by dd [1706.26] on March 30, 2004 at 01:39:38:

In Reply to: To Dr. Stoll posted by dd [1706.26] on March 30, 2004 at 01:31:38:

Thought I would add that I have had regular rolfing and
body work weekly, and even that didn't release this
problem. But squeezing those muscles did. Very
strange.

dd

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Re: To Dr. Stoll

Posted by Lana [1585.218] on March 30, 2004 at 11:57:29:

In Reply to: To Dr. Stoll posted by dd [1706.26] on March 30, 2004 at 01:31:38:

Hi dd,
When I read your post it reminded me of what my mother told me to do about my ganglion cyst . She told me to ly it on a flat surface and get the bible, hold it about 3 feet above the wrist and then drop it. That is what they did in the good old days. I went for the surgery. :)
Sorry for intruding in on your post. Hope you don't mind.
Lana



Re: To Dr. Stoll

Posted by Lincoln [32.20] on March 30, 2004 at 12:13:10:

In Reply to: To Dr. Stoll posted by dd [1706.26] on March 30, 2004 at 01:31:38:

Interesting story.

Many people carry mental stress into the muscles of their back. When you squeezed the muscles together - sounds like the rhomboid and trapezius muscles - you tired them enough to cause them to relax. COnversely, when you play violin, I'll bet you add stress to those muscles through bad posture. Basically, you've probably taught yourself to brace your back muscles when you play, which is a bad habit.

Somehow this bracing in your back has manifests itself as the cyst on your wrist. Don't know why that is, but if so the solution would be to focus on relaxing your back as you play. I know you have to raise your shoulder to play violin, but try to do so with the minimum pressure required rather than jamming your shoulder up as hard as you can.



Re: To Dr. Stoll

Posted by dd [1706.26] on March 30, 2004 at 14:14:58:

In Reply to: Re: To Dr. Stoll posted by Lana [1585.218] on March 30, 2004 at 11:57:29:

Hi Lana,

yes, I have also been told this, and considered doing it
until I read about people breaking their wrists in the
process!! LOL!

dd

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Re: To Dr. Stoll

Posted by dd [1706.26] on March 30, 2004 at 15:14:43:

In Reply to: Re: To Dr. Stoll posted by Lincoln [32.20] on March 30, 2004 at 12:13:10:

Hi Lincoln,

Do you play? You visualize this well.

Thanks for the comments. I understand all you said,
and have been dealing with all of it for over 12 years
now. The cyst came after a car accident, but I am sure
was triggered by the combination of all bracing in my
history. There is a 75% injury rate amongst all
muscians (more probably, this is just the figure of
those that go for help), and bracing while playing is
tough to overcome. There are demands that are high,
and a note perfect performance is the requirement.
Mucho stress, and repetitive motion, and just plain old
physics of how to do something that goes against the
natural flow of the body. It isn't a symetrical thing to be
doing. Tall and long people (which I am very!), seem to
have the most problems with playing small
instruments. I think you can visualize why this is.
Space needing to be taken up, just to meet up with the
instrument. Short and stout people have far less
issues, unless they are playing something that is too
big! Then they have a whole other list of issues.
Physique plays a huge role. Genetics, rotation of
sockets vary in each individual as well as their genetic
muscular disposition, and on and on. The list is long,
the demands are high, and the pressure is on. So, we
try to learn with body work, alexander, rolfing, network
chiro, yoga, diet, excercise, SR, etc, etc, etc,......it doesn't
end. Only recently did the orchestras add chiropractic
and massage, alexander and F.C. to the list of things
offered to help the musicians. That was a huge step in
the right direction. Before, injuries were something to
be ashamed of. LOL!

Thanks for your comments. Amazing that you can
visualize as you do! You are right on.

dd

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Re: To Dr. Stoll (Archive in Rolfing/Hellerworking.) TESTIMONIAL

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on March 31, 2004 at 06:10:37:

In Reply to: To Dr. Stoll posted by dd [1706.26] on March 30, 2004 at 01:31:38:

Thanks, DD.

Welcome to a wider world! You have hit on how Rolfing/Hellerworking would approach this condition

It may be that, after all these recurrences, the leaky passage has become scarred permanently open and surgery will be your only option. This is a very safe and effective surgery with very little risk to your profession IF you diligently follow the rehabilitation progrem recomended after the surgery. If you cannot permanently resolve this by what you have learned you might consider the surgery and THEN practice what you have learned to prevent getting another one-----definitely an occupational hazard for you.

Walt

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