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Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses

Posted by Maria on July 11, 2001 at 06:38:29:

Dear Dr Stoll,

I apologise for not looking first at the archives. I have now read them extensively and thank you for the help within them. However i still have three questions.

1) How exactly do you perform a nasal douche? I read about the sea salt and water douche but don't know what to do. Do you sniff it up from a glass and then swallow? Please could you explain this process?

2) Is chewing gum likely to contribute to TMJ/bracing? I chew gum ALL the time.

3) Am I likely to do myself any damage by swallowing REALLY hard? I do this to try and pop my ears and sometimes it has an effect but the build up of pressure is so intense I often feel like my head will explode!

Thanks!



Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses

Posted by S.H.A.P.E. on July 11, 2001 at 08:22:56:

In Reply to: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses posted by Maria on July 11, 2001 at 06:38:29:

Hi Maria - Get a 8 oz. glass of warm water and put a teaspoon of epsom salts in it - hang over a sink - pour the salt water into your hand - throw it into your nose and sniff really hard. It will choke you a little and burn but the end results are worth it. I personally do it every night before going to bed. Chewing gum is terrible on TMJ and the sugar content (aspartame is even worse - it's in all sugar free gum and soft drinks) is bad for your health - you must be a nervous person - use stress reduction instead. As for the ear poping - I really do not know - sorry.



Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses

Posted by Maria on July 11, 2001 at 08:38:57:

In Reply to: Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses posted by S.H.A.P.E. on July 11, 2001 at 08:22:56:

Wow - Thank you Shape!! Presumably that means the mixture is swallowed involuntarily then? Do you know - is it a similar thing to using Sterimar?

I really appreciate your response,

Maria



Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses

Posted by Barbara on July 11, 2001 at 09:17:38:

In Reply to: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses posted by Maria on July 11, 2001 at 06:38:29:

My brother had terrible sinus problems and surgery for them. Afterwards he used a pulsating waterpik type thingy with a solution of baking soda and salt (doctor told him canning salt). Also, I've read that a netti pot is good for irrigating the sinuses as well. Personally, since I've been watching what I eat and keeping my nose moist with saline sprays and humidity..I find I have less and less sinus problems.



Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses

Posted by Maria on July 11, 2001 at 09:42:07:

In Reply to: Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses posted by Barbara on July 11, 2001 at 09:17:38:

Thank you Barbara! What exactly is a netti pot?! Can you buy these things you mention at a chemists? I was told Sterimar was a very good thing to take.

Maria



Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses

Posted by Sally on July 11, 2001 at 20:00:31:

In Reply to: Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses posted by Maria on July 11, 2001 at 08:38:57:

Maria, you can purchase a little glass tube at the drugstore. Just ask for a nasal douche, not expensive. It will hold your solution and has something that fits into your nostril.

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Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses

Posted by Davetx on July 11, 2001 at 23:26:13:

In Reply to: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses posted by Maria on July 11, 2001 at 06:38:29:

Marie, Go to the drug store and bug a plastic syring 5 to 10 cc mix the salt water up like shape said, draw the syring full of body temp salt water, then hang your head over the sink where your head is hanging down and slowly inject the water up each nostril. This will make it run up into the sinuses, not down your throat. After a fews seconds of holding the water inside release and let it come out, then do the other side. Do this about 5 times on each side. Gum can make tmj much worse. Your ear and head pain is more then likely because of tmj. Rest that jaw as much as you can. Good luck

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Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses

Posted by Barbara on July 12, 2001 at 07:38:21:

In Reply to: Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses posted by Maria on July 11, 2001 at 09:42:07:

My understanding is that the netti pot is part of the yoga program. It looks like a little tea pot. I can't find them here in Holland so I'm considering ordering one from the states. In the states you can find them at most health food stores. I'm trying to include of picture of one with this message. I'm not sure if it will work or not..never done it before! If it doesnt work, you can find it at

http://www.yogazone.com/images/YZ2000F15-1.jpg

There's also a very interesting site that talks about why you need pulsating irrigation. He says that the neti pot offers that pulsating irrigation but that it may be difficult for normal people to achieve it. He has a pulsator that's similiar to what my brother used.

http://www.ent-consult.com/faq.html

Good luck!


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Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 12, 2001 at 10:10:14:

In Reply to: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses posted by Maria on July 11, 2001 at 06:38:29:

Hi, Maria.

Everyone who responded had good advice. The main thing I would emphasize is getting the concentration of salt correct (this is critical). The normal saline solution is 1/4 teaspoon/8 ounce container. Too much causes irritation and too little causes swelling.

Hope this hslps.

Walt



Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses (Addendum.) Archive

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 12, 2001 at 10:12:08:

In Reply to: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses posted by Maria on July 11, 2001 at 06:38:29:

Hi, Maria.

Everyone who responded had good advice. The main thing I would emphasize is getting the concentration of salt correct (this is critical). The normal saline solution is 1/4 teaspoon/8 ounce container. Too much causes irritation and too little causes swelling.

Hope this helps.

Walt

P.S. I forgot. You cannot harm yourself by holding your nose and swallowing--that pulls stuff out of your sinuses. What could hurt is blowing hard.



question about saline solution - Walt

Posted by saline on July 12, 2001 at 10:20:18:

In Reply to: Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses (Addendum.) Archive posted by Walt Stoll on July 12, 2001 at 10:12:08:

is mineral salt or sea salt ok or is it better to use the table salt for this solution



Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re salt w/o iodine

Posted by Antonio on July 13, 2001 at 21:22:19:

In Reply to: Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses posted by Walt Stoll on July 12, 2001 at 10:10:14:

Dear Dr. Stoll:

Two years ago we attended several classes, given by an Indian Dr., on healthy living. He recommended the Neti Pot for all types of allergies and other problems ("a clean nose leads to a healthy body"). I have been using it once/day for a couple of years and have substantially decreased my allergies and the use of antihistamines

My only addition to what you posted is that, according to this Dr. the salt to be used MUST BE WITHOUT IODINE. I don't remember the reason for it, but he said this was very important. Also he suggested that the Neti Pot be "Himalayan Institute certified". I bought my Himalayan Institute Neti Pot at a local health store for about $ 18, 2 years ago. The concentration that you posted is the same concentration that this Indian Dr. recommended.

Dr. Stoll, I am the one that had the bad knee with a torn cartilage and a recommendation for arthroscopic surgery in 1998-1999. Never had any surgery. By now, I guess I have a good 90 to 95% usage of my knees. You and Dr. Ferguson were a big help.

As usual, thank you for your help.

Antonio




Neti Pot addendum

Posted by Antonio on July 13, 2001 at 21:58:08:

In Reply to: Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re sinuses posted by Walt Stoll on July 12, 2001 at 10:10:14:

Dear Dr. Stoll:

Just to put an addendum to my prior message. The link below gives explicit instructions on the usage of the Neti Pot, with pictures and other details. Sorry I missed it before.

Antonio

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Re: question about saline solution - Walt

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 14, 2001 at 09:06:20:

In Reply to: question about saline solution - Walt posted by saline on July 12, 2001 at 10:20:18:

Hi, Saline.

Mineral salt is best for everything except melting ice off your sidewalk.

However, since this is not for nutritional purposes, I do not think it makes much difference.

Walt

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Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re salt w/o iodine (Testimonial for knees.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 15, 2001 at 10:31:17:

In Reply to: Re: Dr Stoll or anyone else who can help - re salt w/o iodine posted by Antonio on July 13, 2001 at 21:22:19:

Thanks, Antonio.

IF one lives more than 100 miles from the seashore, and they do not use mineral salt, I believe the iodine is necessary. I cannot believe that the small trace in iodized salt would interfere with nasal douches or gargling.

Hope this helps.

Walt

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