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Any Type O Vegetarians out there?

Posted by Pssst on November 11, 2003 at 13:12:21:

If so, how's that working for you?

Pssst



Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there?

Posted by maire on November 11, 2003 at 13:25:08:

In Reply to: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? posted by Pssst on November 11, 2003 at 13:12:21:

my husband and my son are type o vegetarians,whole grain only, no sugar, no milk.
Each of them are doing better since they gave up wheat- improved their breathing and their behavior.

We've all been vegans, but my husband has started worrying that his cholestrol is too low, and I've worried that his thinking processes may be showing signs of Alzheimers, so he now adds a tablespoon of butter to his veggies once a day.

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Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there?

Posted by earthgrl on November 11, 2003 at 13:46:03:

In Reply to: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? posted by Pssst on November 11, 2003 at 13:12:21:

I have blood type O and was a vegetarian for 12 years, up until about a month ago. I did Robert McFerran's e-diet and found out I have a hunter-gatherer metabolism. I think this explains the computer-related repetitive strain injury that happened 2 years after I went veg (ovo-lacto), which degenerated into a bad and very painful case of fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, etc. that I am now trying to beat.

I've started eating meat again, eliminated wheat and most dairy (still use a little butter), and started doing SR. I'm waiting for my order of Dr. Stoll's book, but I'm already feeling much better. My fatigue is basically gone and my pain is much milder.

I have read much and believe now that vegetarianism is a honorable but misguided attempt to get around our basic biology. It works for you if you have the right metabolism for it, but many do not, and I am one of those.

I was very committed to being a vegetarian, and it was very very hard to start eating animals again, but it was also a big lesson in acceptance of the need to integrate the spiritual with the needs of the body.

-Earthgrl



Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there?

Posted by Sharon on November 11, 2003 at 14:55:31:

In Reply to: Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? posted by earthgrl on November 11, 2003 at 13:46:03:

Good god Earthgirl, thought you had just answered for me! Been a veggie for 10 years, in that time had 3 children all with different problems, that can be traced back to low Aminos & low Protease (had a child 14 years ago, no probs) Started eating Organic meat this year & my depression & fatigue gone. Hate eating meat still , but believe blood group diet is certainly right for me.



Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there?

Posted by Earthgrl on November 12, 2003 at 08:45:49:

In Reply to: Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? posted by Sharon on November 11, 2003 at 14:55:31:

Hi Sharon,

That's really interesting that you had some of the same sorts of experiences I did. I had no idea my diet could be part of the cause of my problems (I think chronic bracing from stress is the other part, but that could relate to diet also). I started doing a thorough investigation of vegetarianism when the idea finally occurred to me, and suddenly things started making sense. I feel so much better since I started eating (organic only, also) meat that I can't deny that vegetarianism was certainly wrong for me. Makes me embarrassed that I was once one of those who proclaimed the benefits of a vegetarian diet for everyone and the planet (I've since read also that the planet doesn't benefit all that much, either). A very good life lesson in humility for me, one I needed.

If anyone is interested in reading some of what I read, go to:

www.beyondveg.com

This site really opened my eyes. Also:

www.westonaprice.org

And Dr. Stoll's site was the final piece(s) of the puzzle for me. When I read his three-legged stool protocol of diet, exercise, and skilled relaxation, it all just made sense. I have suspected for a very long time that I hold huge amounts of tension (psychological and environmental) in my body, specifically in my muscles, and that it was the main cause of my initial repetitive strain injury and subsequent fibromyalgia. I just didn't know what to do about it. I think my chronic malnutrition from my vegetarian diet contributed to the bracing also. It makes sense to me that being a whole organism, everything in me that is part of me is related. I got so tired of doctors who looked at me as body parts (not ONE of the 12 or so medical professionals I saw for my problems asked me what I was eating or if I was exercising!) that I completely gave up on conventional medicine.

As for blood type, I sort of agree with Robert McFerran (see archives for his diets on this site) that it only relates to a few things you shouldn't eat because of lectins. I don't really think the blood type diet can be applied to everyone either, just like vegetarianism can't. I know type Os who can't eat much meat because they don't feel good if they do. But if it's working for you, that is great. Sometimes you hit on the right thing, and it makes sense to stick with it until it's no longer working.

It's amazing to hear people relating experiences so similar to my own. Thanks for writing. It makes me feel like I am on the right track, finally.

-Earthgrl

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Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there?

Posted by TypeOVegan on November 13, 2003 at 11:39:16:

In Reply to: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? posted by Pssst on November 11, 2003 at 13:12:21:

I have type O blood and have been a vegetarian for 23 years. I have been vegan for many of those years and am currently vegan. Before going vegan I suffered from horrible asthma, requiring at times steriods (both inhaled and oral) as well as a preventative inhaler (Intal) and needed my rescue inhaler frequently. Within a short period of resuming my vegan diet all asthma symptoms are gone and I have even dropped the Intal. My seasonal allergies are completely gone as well.

Since resuming my vegan diet the arthritis in my hip is completely gone, after years of debilitating pain.

After dropping meat from my diet years ago the IBS that made my early adult years hell completely went away and has not bothered me once in 23 years. Not once.

I had a doppler test on my neck arteries two years ago and in the middle of the test the tech asked me how old I was. I told her 46 and she said that she had never ever seen ateries as clear as mine are. She said there was not a trace of any plaque in them.

My BP is the same as it was when I was a kid and all of my blood lipids are great.

When I consumed animal products I suffered from asthma, seasonal allergies, IBS, arthritis, insomnia, and I struggled to keep my weight down. I now have none of those problems. I sleep like a rock, wake up refreshed a few minutes before the alarm goes off, walk for miles without any hip pain, breathe without any difficulties and have no IBS. My weight stays at a good level without me needing to ever be hungry.

I have noticed a lot of people here are openly hostile to vegans/vegetarians. I try to overlook that as there is a lot of good information here. The constant endorsement of high protein/low carb diets is upsetting to me as I know many who have gotten sick on that type of diet. I know several people who got gout on it but it disappeared completely as soon as they resumed eating carbs. There is a lot of cancer in my family among those who eat a lot of meat (some at young ages too, unfortunately). So far none among the vegetarians. Time will tell if that pattern holds.

I have read Eat Right For Your Type and find it to be based on nothing more than the authors opinion as far as I can tell. No real science to back it up.

I too share some of the concerns others have here about a diet heavy in grains. My diet is not heavy in grains. I rarely eat them. What concerns me is that many here seem to condemn grains but also overlook the many health problems meat causes. Especially heavy meat eating. I have changed the way I eat based on research I have done but all of my reading has yet to convince me there is anything good about humans eating meat. Or dairy. I keep reading. But I can't see ever adding animal products back to my diet. I am so much healthier now. My life used to be pretty darned miserable and now at 48 I would say I am healthier than I have ever been.



Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? TESTIMONIAL

Posted by Walt Stoll on November 14, 2003 at 07:59:54:

In Reply to: Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? posted by TypeOVegan on November 13, 2003 at 11:39:16:

Thanks, Type O.

Walt



Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there?

Posted by labrat on November 14, 2003 at 13:03:36:

In Reply to: Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? posted by TypeOVegan on November 13, 2003 at 11:39:16:

You are a rare bird, Type O, and that is why you see so many folks here spouting different approaches than what worked for you. It's great that you found your way!

You illustrate beautifully the differences between us all. I found myself weak and sickly when I tried to be a vegetarian, and then thriving when I added meat back into my diet. I also avoid most grains and eat sparingly of the ones I do eat.

Are you familiar with Robert McFerran's work? He has an archive here that you might find interesting. His metabolic approach provides for a sliding scale of dietary needs depending on ones ancestry and inherited metabolism. It explains why we all thrive on different diets.

Also, Diet Net, linked below, might give you some info of interest to read.

~~~8>




Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there?

Posted by Jan S. on November 14, 2003 at 14:26:12:

In Reply to: Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? posted by TypeOVegan on November 13, 2003 at 11:39:16:

Thanks for your very interesting testimony. FYI I believe Walt is a Type O vegetarian. (Although lately I think he has been experimenting with other dietary modes.)

"Eat Right for your Type" succeeds with a lot of people if for no other reason than it helps them clean the junk out of their diets. The removal of all dietary pollution creates a remarkable improvement all by itself.

I think it is natural (intellectually satisfying) for us to want the same diet to be good for everyone. But observation would indicate that it is otherwise. There as various theories over why this is. Lots of meat is good for some, not good for others (apparently not good for you). If this topic intrigues you (as it does me) you can find plenty in the archives on it...

As a vegan, what are your staple foods if not grains? Where do you get your calorically-dense foods... Just curious.



Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there?

Posted by TypeOVegan on November 14, 2003 at 16:45:28:

In Reply to: Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? posted by Jan S. on November 14, 2003 at 14:26:12:

I almost hate to answer the "what do you eat" question as it is often the line that leads to an arguement with friends IRL (whose secret agenda seems to be to convince me that I "need" meat). But if you are sincere I will answer. I eat a lot of greens. A whole lot of vegetables, every day. I eat most of them raw. I eat a huge variety of them. I juice some of them. I eat several different varieties of fruit each day. Many days I eat an avocado because I love them. I eat young coconut when I can get it (they are hard to find in my area). I will eat a small amount of brown rice occasionally. I occasionally eat beans. I do eat raw pinenuts occasionally. A handful of nuts from time to time. Beans and nuts have never bothered my stomach and as far as I can tell I have no trouble digesting them. I avoid wheat, corn, soy, mushrooms, sugar, and all animal products. I avoid canned foods and can't think of the last time I ate something that was frozen. Before I ate this way I would have not thought it possible to feel satified with eating mostly vegetables, with the other things added in, but I eat enough to maintain my weight without any trouble. And no, I don't graze all day. I eat when I'm hungry and I stop when I am full and that is typically a fairly standard three meals a day. Are you familiar with William Harris, M.D.? It was his writing that inspired me to eat fewer grains and more greens. And it is working very well for me. I will link an article from his web site below.

Thank you guys for being nice to me. I was afraid to answer the inital question.

My DH is a Type A btw and he eats meat. Though he has shown more interest lately in eating more the way I do and has actually been surprised that I can make a salad that keeps him happy for several hours. (I make huge salads.) He eats vegetarian meals at home and he eats beans more frequently than I do.

And I agree with you about the Eat Right for Your Type diet helping people clean the junk out of their diet. Most people eating SAD have such horrible eating habits that any improvement has to help their health.

Thank you all again for being polite. I know many of us disagree on the best way to eat but I do think most of us are trying to stay as healthy as we can be. And being human we are not always going to agree. Peace.



Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there?

Posted by TypeOVegan on November 14, 2003 at 16:52:15:

In Reply to: Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? posted by labrat on November 14, 2003 at 13:03:36:

I'm not familiar with Robert McFerran, but I'll check him out. I have read most of the books that are mentioned on the Diet Net link you posted though. (I am a diet/nutrition book junkie!) Thanks.

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You are welcome. Thank YOU for running this board. (nt)

Posted by TypeOVegan on November 14, 2003 at 16:53:43:

In Reply to: Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? TESTIMONIAL posted by Walt Stoll on November 14, 2003 at 07:59:54:

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Type O: I have a question for you

Posted by
Marian on November 15, 2003 at 08:29:42:

In Reply to: Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? posted by TypeOVegan on November 13, 2003 at 11:39:16:

You say you don't eat many grains. Would you care to tell me what you eat? Give me a sample of a menu for one day. Thanks. Marian

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Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there?

Posted by Jan S. on November 19, 2003 at 02:15:09:

In Reply to: Re: Any Type O Vegetarians out there? posted by TypeOVegan on November 14, 2003 at 16:45:28:

Thank YOU for being polite!

There is nothing like a personal testimony... I know exactly what you mean by the question "What do you eat?" It can be a leading question for sure.. Heck I have done it to people myself and then think afterwards, "Oh, I didn't realize I was going to get up on a soapbox!" I personally shy away from any controversy lately; and there is inherently a lot of it on this board because we are confronting the truth of what is really going on, whether it is the food industry, government, the medicos, and so on and so on. (which is good) And while I'm attracted to controversial issues, it seems to sap everything I have, on an energetic level - I'd rather get my education by letting others have the controversies. :)

So much of finding your way is to study, study, study w/ lots of trial and error to find out the best way for you. You are certainly welcome here should you feel like chiming in on anything else.

For me there is a simple logistical problem in eating a lot of vegetation which is that it takes such a very long time to chew it! I end up getting impatient to finish the long meal, taking it with me and eating it while I'm driving or working, doing household chores while chewing on vegetables, etc.. Calorically-dense food serves as a time-saver as well. :) So I sort of wonder how you manage that. Jan.

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