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A rating of the importance of Diet, Exercise, and SR

Posted by
RocketHealer Jim++ on March 27, 1999 at 23:13:17:

I just finished skimming what for me were the interesting parts of Dr. Barry Sears' latest book, The Anti-Aging Zone. He is totally convinced that HIS calorie-restricted Zone diet is the very best and ONLY one diet recommended for the entire universe. That opinion is not shared widely here.

I was on the Zone diet religiously for about 4 months 3 years ago and it really worked well for me. While unemployed, I lost a lot of weight and fat and looked and felt much better than I had in YEARS! Then I went back to work and the job stress made the diet no longer work for me. No matter how religiously I followed the diet, food and exercise-wise, I still had overwhelming cravings and felt really bad mentally. Sears had not mentioned meditation at that time. I struggled with that personal Zone Diet failure for a long time (why did it work so wonderfully for me, and then not work at all for me?) Now I feel that I have some understanding of the importance of stress, and of dealing with it with SR, etc. So in a way, I understand why the Zone diet worked for me only when I was in a relatively low state of stress. Even though unemployed, for what turned out to be 4 months, I lived in the present moment, cooked and ate what I believed was good for me, took long walks, etc. I KNEW during that time that I would get a better job and soon enough that the impacts on me and my family would be survivable. I never worried about losing it all to go live on the street. But then when I started to work, I was rudely returned to reality, to job stress, bosses, time-pressures, etc. And all the old bets were off. I rapidly regained the weight, despite complying with the diet.

Back to my original thought/question:
On pages 113-115, for those with the book who want to flip to the applicable section, he gives his Anti-Aging Zone Lifestyle Pyramid and discusses that the calorie-restricted Zone diet is the most important (the base of his pyramid), moderate exercise is second in importance (near the top), and SR (in his case, meditation 20 minutes once a day) the LEAST important (just the tip of his pyramid, with some cute Eastern-looking eyes and eyebrows capping the pyramid). He does say that "put all three together, and you have adopted a warrior's code for anti-aging."
So the three (diet, exercise, and SR) are the same general three that Walt advocates here, except that Sears puts an importance ranking on the steps exactly opposite of what Walt has said.

What exactly I just asked and what the answers to this question might be, I leave to you.

RocketHealer Jim++

Of course, Sears is interested in maximizing "longevity, vitality, and functionality". Walt is out to maximize "wellness", so the two sets of recommendations would not necessarily be expected to mesh exactly.



Re: A rating of the importance of Diet, Exercise, and SR

Posted by
Lincoln on March 28, 1999 at 20:49:00:

In Reply to: A rating of the importance of Diet, Exercise, and SR posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on March 27, 1999 at 23:13:17:

If you don't have BOTH proper diet and exercise, you can kiss optimum wellness, vitality and functionality good-bye. There's too many fat weight lifters with heart problems and atrophied vegans-who-can't-lift-their-kid-off-the-floor to convince me otherwise.

If your only goal is to prevent death, then maybe you could set up a pyramid of priorities. A priority system for diet vs. exercise isn't applicable if the goal is optimum performance. I can't speak for SR, as I don't have the experience with it.



Putting SR First or Last?

Posted by
RocketHealer Jim++ on March 28, 1999 at 22:16:43:

In Reply to: Re: A rating of the importance of Diet, Exercise, and SR posted by Lincoln on March 28, 1999 at 20:49:00:

Lincoln:

Your very last comment was my point exactly. Sears puts SR Last, Stoll puts it First.

Up till recently, Sears did not mention meditation at all. Just Diet and Exercise. Now he is advocating we meditate 20 minutes, Once a day. Walt Stoll says do SR (your choice of method, whatever works for you) 20 minutes Twice a day, or expect no major SR benefits. And to expect the benefits of SR to take months, say 6 months to a year to be complete.

Sears says that meditation reduces excessive "cortosol" levels. This sounds like a rather immediate effect. Stoll says that SR over time releases accumulated stress-effects. Not sure if the exact "chemical" mechanism has been discussed here or not. Sorry if I misquoted (or under-quoted) Walt here. What I'm seeing is two opposite poles of importance/reality.

Obviously in the "Ask Walt Stoll" universe, Walt Stoll is clearly more likely to be giving us the "right" advice than Sears is. But Sears is writing and selling best-seller books. If Sears,in his latest book, whether it becomes a best-seller or not, suggests 20 minutes of meditation once a day, Some people will definitely listen, and perhaps even DO it. So that is "Progress", of a sort, toward the wellness that Walt is promoting here and wherever he can be heard. A voice crying out in the wilderness! :-)

Sorry to hear you have not gotten on the SR bandwagon yet. Do as I SAY! not as I do-I'm still struggling to get an early evening SR into my life.) Hope you do so soon and get the benefits we talk about here all the time.

RocketHealer Jim++



Re: Putting SR First or Last?

Posted by
Lincoln on March 29, 1999 at 12:44:55:

In Reply to: Putting SR First or Last? posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on March 28, 1999 at 22:16:43:

>Sorry to hear you have not gotten on the SR bandwagon yet.<

Not yet. I'm still working on a host of other things. Too much self-improvement at once would be slef-defeating! But I'll start looking into SR, certainly.




Re: Putting SR First or Last? (Been there, done that?)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 29, 1999 at 12:57:46:

In Reply to: Putting SR First or Last? posted by RocketHealer Jim++ on March 28, 1999 at 22:16:43:

Thanks, RocketHealer Jim!

As usual, your comments are pithy & right on the money.

First, I hope the fact that a lot of people on this BB happen to need SR the most has not given the impression to everyone that I say SR is the most important. THAT depends on the individual condition the person is in.

For some people, diet is most important at first. For others, exercise. The MOST important determinant is WHAT will the person actually DO?

Next, my STRONG feelings about the difference between once & twice a day are based on the fact that most people get enamored with the stories of the great benefits. THEN, when they do their SR once a day, the majority do not GET those benefits and so "throw out the baby with the bathwater" saying: "Well, I guess that is a dry hole too." Then they give up what may well be the most important single thing for them to do & do not go back to it for years (IF EVER) because: been there, done that", when they have NOT "done that" at all.

If people are going to be satisfied with very moderate benefits and not for a couple of years, why not do it once a day? Just adjust your expectations accordingly. Besides, if people think once a day is going to do wonderful things, many will do it 3 times a week (BIG SIGH).

Once people have their wonderful benefits for about 6-12 months, most can maintain those benefits on only once a day (some with only 3 times a week).

I will bet that Sears doesn't even mention checking the effectiveness of the SR with biofeedback (the only thing known that will save people from practicing something useless for years & wondering why their friend got so much good out of the SR and they are not). Most of THOSE people just give it up and never know what they missed.

Barry knows some stuff and has a good distributor for his books. His book success is NOT based on how well his readers do as compared with what is on this BB.

Walt



Re: (Been there, done that?)

Posted by
RocketHealer Jim++ on March 30, 1999 at 04:20:22:

In Reply to: Re: Putting SR First or Last? (Been there, done that?) posted by Walt Stoll on March 29, 1999 at 12:57:46:

Walt:

Thanks for replying to my meanderings. Lots of good insights in your answers.

Good point that the people with chronic illness related to bracing (seems like Everyone around here!) are most likely to benefit LOTS from SR.

Glad you explained the once a day vs twice a day vs once every other century SR business. As usual, one size does not fit all, and sometimes people need to aim at a very tough target to hit a target the size of a barn.

You are right thas Sears barely mentions testing one's meditation for proper technique/effect.

About success of people on his diet, I know from mucho time spent at my OLD favorite web site: Zone Home http://www.ZoneHome.com/ that there were plenty of people for whom the diet did not seem to work.

I've enjoyed seeing Barry's latest and think it helped me at least a little in thinking about what is important and what really works for me. And how that changes with time and situation.

Thanks,
RocketHealer Jim++




SR Testimonial

Posted by vickir on April 01, 1999 at 13:36:17:

In Reply to: Re: Putting SR First or Last? posted by Lincoln on March 29, 1999 at 12:44:55:

As a bit of encouragement to you to "get on with it"--my husband and I practiced good eating habits and regular exercise for years but didn't achieve the desired results. Last August we began do SR once a day and soon noticed some modest improvement. In February, we bit the bullet and began doing SR twice a day, as Walt recommends. The improvement in symptoms has been dramatic in just this short time. We actually look forward to a time when they will disappear altogether. I understand that, for some people, the diet and/or exercise may need to take precedence, but that certainly wasn't true in our case. I think part of the reason for that is that, no matter how much "right stuff" you eat, if your body (because of LGS and all that it can cause) is unable to properly absorb and utilize those nutrients, you will not see the hoped-for benefits from your diet.



Re: SR Testimonial (archive)

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 02, 1999 at 09:54:38:

In Reply to: SR Testimonial posted by vickir on April 01, 1999 at 13:36:17:

Thanks, vickir.

Your testimonial will help others understand better what this is all about.

CONGRATULATIONS!

Walt



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