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What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think)

Posted by
Chet Sandberg on December 06, 1999 at 22:30:24:

I am interested in hearing what you people have as answers for that question.
I myself was faced with that question when my condition got drastically better due to chinese medicine and the type o diet. Suddenly, things I had been struggling with for years were gone, nada, nothing. Chronic Depression and Thoughts of Suicide? Gone!! Headaches, dizziness and a hopelessly entrenched defeatist attitude? Gone or seriously reduced!! It was as if I had become the person I always suspected that I was. The only problem was, this person had never had real-world experience. It was exhiliarating, it was refreshing. It was also a terrible shock that frightened me to no end....at first.
I think a very important question to address for yourselves is how you are going to interact with life as a new person. I know this sounds like a really silly thing to bring up, but really, you have adapted your whole life and how you relate to other people through your chronic illness. Realize that for a moment.
Don't get me wrong, I think fear is the wrong way to approach this new transformation, but unless you come to terms with the reality of your chronic illnesses and how you have come to DEPEND on them, fear is going to be the mindset that sabotages you behind your back and it might keep you sick if you are scared enough.
So anyway, I am curious to hear you personal ideas of what you would do with the newfound energy and freedom of drastically improved health. I can't wait to hear what some of you can imagine and use the power of your re-aquired health to do!

Chet.



Re: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think)

Posted by SR on December 07, 1999 at 13:13:10:

In Reply to: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think) posted by Chet Sandberg on December 06, 1999 at 22:30:24:

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Re: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think)

Posted by Judy on December 07, 1999 at 13:30:44:

In Reply to: Re: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think) posted by SR on December 07, 1999 at 13:13:10:

Hi Chet,
I thought your post was very thought provoking. I have considered the questions you posed myself as I have been ill for many years. I have been very limited in what I am able to do and I have been living my life and relating to my family and the world as a sick person for quite some time. I have to admit that being ill has allowed me to not have a lot of responsibilities in my life. I was very much a people pleaser, and I feel like this illness has given me permission to say no without feeling guilty. Also, I have always wanted to be in control of everything regarding my family (and everything else for that matter), but since I am unable to do a lot of things I used to do, I have been forced to give up a lot of control and that has been very difficult.
Recently, I have thought a lot about what I will do when I am well. When I practice SR, I visualize myself as a well person with lots of energy doing great things like going on trips, taking a yoga class, going to the symphony, going biking or playing tennis. Also, I see myself going to school to be a massage therapist and working with children who are ill. When I have had massages, I found them to be extremely nurturing, and I want to do something with my life to help other people. I also visualize myself volunteering for Habitat for Humanity and at a local food bank. Being ill can really change your perspective of life, and it has certainly made me a more compassionate person.
Thanks for the great question. I am glad to hear that you are well.
Kindest regards, Judy



Re: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think)

Posted by
Thomas Seay on December 07, 1999 at 14:12:51:

In Reply to: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think) posted by Chet Sandberg on December 06, 1999 at 22:30:24:

Chet,

This is an important question. When I was sick,
about a year ago (extreme dizziness), I could
not go more than across the street. Of course,
my wish then was to just be able to go wherever
I wanted to by myself. It seemed like a miracle
when I was finally able to do this.

The problem is that now, I take this all for granted again
most of the time. It would seem that to develop and maintain a sense of the miraculousness of it all...the fact that we are able to be here and do anything...this sense
of the miraculous is an important thing to develop.

Peace Out,

Thomas



Re: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think) (ARCHIVE UNDER WELLNESS AND PHILOSOPHY.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 07, 1999 at 14:55:43:

In Reply to: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think) posted by Chet Sandberg on December 06, 1999 at 22:30:24:

Thanks, Chet.

You have written a wonderful description of a well-known (by holistic physicians) phenomena that is almost universal for those who practice "wellness". It is unknown by strictly conventional physicians because their patients rarely, if ever, get healthy again.

I have even seen marriages break up because one partner practiced wellness and far outgrew the other partner whose connection was to a sick person and who did not have any idea how to relate to this healthy person.

Beware people getting healthy........

Namaste`

Walt



People with early childhood traumas and illness

Posted by B.B. on December 07, 1999 at 15:37:39:

In Reply to: Re: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think) posted by Judy on December 07, 1999 at 13:30:44:

This is somewhat different, but this thread made me think of it. I have had many friends who have had either major
surgery early in life, as I did, or a major illness, with
a possible outcome being death. I have found without fail,
that these people have a certain zest for life, and a quite
different attitude. They don't care as much what others think, they like to have fun...sure, they get ticked off sometimes, down, or whatever, but this one aspect seems to
override it all eventually. And they are all NICE, and care about people. You often don't know what its like unless you've been there, and when you've been there, its
a spiritual experience or something. I think Chet eluded
to something, that I've also seen though. I have gotten the feeling that many people I've seen with things like Fibro and other similar disease, are so familiar with this
state, that they are only comfortable in it, and I honestly don't think they want out. I'm not blaming them, I just
think the medical establishment has really offered them
little or nothing, so, they come to live in this vicious
circle of pain and ill-health, and its a way of existing.
I don't even think its drug addiction often, moreso lifestyle addiction, to this life they see no escape from.
Maybe I'm wrong, but its my gut feeling many times.
B.B.



Re: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think)

Posted by Robin Sandlin on December 07, 1999 at 19:25:12:

In Reply to: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think) posted by Chet Sandberg on December 06, 1999 at 22:30:24:

This is very interesting...My mom has Multiple Sclerosis as does my fiance's mom. My mom has been diagnosed for 25 years and my fiance's mom has been diagnosed for only 5 years. When my fiance's mom tells me about new treatments or things that help her and I tell my mom, she is not the least bit interested. When I told her about Dr. Stoll's site, she is not the least bit interested. I personally believe that her illness has enabled her to get her way most of the time and she does not want to jepordize that! When I was growing up it was always, "Don't do this or don't do that or you will upset your mom" from my dad and it always drove me crazy. Now that I am "grown up" I don't think about whether my actions are going to upset my mom and I can tell you, she does not like it, at all!

My mom told me that she was a "sickly" young child and that it got her out of chores/work (she grew up on a dairy farm) and got her favor from her mom and I think that she has been playing it for all its worth since then.

Don't get me wrong, I love my mother, but when she basically refuses to help herself, I believe that she does not want to get better.

Robin



Re: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think)

Posted by
Lisa M. on December 07, 1999 at 22:54:24:

In Reply to: Re: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think) posted by Thomas Seay on December 07, 1999 at 14:12:51:

Yes, yes...a sense of the miraculous...and the style of appreciation that causes spontaneous beneficial activity/work...just because it feels right while you're doing it. That is what I am working TOWARDS as I move AWAY from the rest of it...



Thand you for this conversation..nmi

Posted by Lisa M. on December 07, 1999 at 22:55:41:

In Reply to: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think) posted by Chet Sandberg on December 06, 1999 at 22:30:24:

nmi



Thand you for this conversation..nmi

Posted by Lisa M. on December 07, 1999 at 22:55:41:

In Reply to: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think) posted by Chet Sandberg on December 06, 1999 at 22:30:24:

nmi



Re: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think)

Posted by
Sue P. on December 10, 1999 at 13:30:09:

In Reply to: What would you do with drastically better health? (maybe its not what you think) posted by Chet Sandberg on December 06, 1999 at 22:30:24:

Chet,

Thanks for this question.

I believe I got candida, leaky gut, and disbiosis with pregnancy/birth at the age of 37 (1989). At that time, I also became allergic to molds. I started getting well in April of 1999 because the reactions to molds were meaning that I would spend nearly all day in bed.

I vowed that the time I gained would be spent on and with my now 9 year old daughter. I still struggle with eating molds that I don't even know are there (one minute the rice if good, the next it is moldy). However, I am slowly but surely getting more energy and more "healthy" time.

I spend it with and on my daughter. I teach Jr. Great Books at her school. We read to one another and practice piano every night. I now have the energy to drive her to basketball practice in the *evenings* (evenings were becoming unheard of). One of these days, I'll be coaching basketball. LOL.

Sue P.



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